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Jim B
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...and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39 For the promise is unto you,....
....Grace
Jim B
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Again...
Promise: a declaration or assurance that one will do a particular thing or that a particular thing will happen.
Grace: the spontaneous, unmerited gift of the divine favor in the salvation of sinners, and the divine influence operating in individuals for their regeneration and sanctification.
They are clearly different.
...and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39 For the promise is unto you,...
The promise is Grace(Holy Ghost).
Jim B
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"Grace" doesn't appear here. That is your (mis)interpretation.
Grace and promise are two different things.
And again...
Promise: a declaration or assurance that one will do a particular thing or that a particular thing will happen.
Grace: the spontaneous, unmerited gift of the divine favor in the salvation of sinners, and the divine influence operating in individuals for their regeneration and sanctification.
Jim B
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Where does it say that the promise is the same grace? And why do you believe in ghosts?
The promise of the OT became Grace at Pentecost.
It coexisted dispensationally in the OT with Law.
It still does.
Promise becomes Grace, then becomes the Millennial reign.
16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.
18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.
The Holy Ghost(Christ) is the promise.
17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.
18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.
The Holy Ghost(Christ) is the promise.
Splendid deduction .....Now, do you have a point as you try to defect from the debate that you are losing?
You don't believe the promise was Christ(Grace)?
You must be thinking of some other fella's promise.
Read the Bible, not wikepedia.
Lol.....he just makes it up as he goes along....what a Nut he is turning about to be.....wonder what else he’s Got ? Fascinating!
You don't believe that promise and Grace were simultaneously existing at the same time taught by Paul?
You don't think Jesus is the Holy Ghost promise?
You are a preacher?
Jim B
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I *DO* read the Bible.....pretty near EVERY DAY for 45 years.....how about you ? I even go past the second chapters of the The Books contained within that Bible—- you oughta give it a shot sometime!
Btw, try to stay focused.....I ain’t the guy that referred to Wikipedia.....
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Jim B
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Okay preacher.
You know the Bible...
Question, did(does) promise and Law co-exist?
