Actually Jesus returns twice...

[rebuilder 454]

Where does it say that the antichrist rules for 7 years?

The trib is 7 yrs.
We know that.
The ac is hiding like everyone else during the wrath part.
"Ruling"..yes
How long?...at least 3.5 yrs

 

[rebuilder 454]

The amills IMO are only going by what they have been told.
One thing they have been told is that Darby invented the rapture and dispensations...They believe that and never investigated that untruth.

The rapture was always there. Darby only discovered what had been lying there, in plain sight, for hundreds of years.

The reason they play the Darby card , is like you said, they don't do investigation, they go by mens teaching.
IOW they can't honestly cast down our verses, so they go for personally discrediting us.
Tactics.
They can't honestly debate, so they revert to tactics.
The tactic of "discrediting your opponent", comes from Saul Alenski's book, "Rules for radicals".
It even states, " if losing a debate go against them personally"
Alenskis book was dedicated to lucifer.
( communism).
Now we see the actual source of some here with their mocking and personal mess.

 

[CrowCross]

The trib is 7 yrs.
We know that.
The ac is hiding like everyone else during the wrath part.
"Ruling"..yes
How long?...at least 3.5 yrs

The beast system is almost open for business...Just a couple more connections.

People seem to think the Data Centers are being built so you can have a nice talk with chat GPT or a place to store last years Christmas pictures.

 

[rebuilder 454]

The beast system is almost open for business...Just a couple more connections.

People seem to think the Data Centers are being built so you can have a nice talk with chat GPT or a place to store last years Christmas pictures.

Soon postribbers will be face to face with the mark.
Take it or die.
No believers "go through" the trib.
We as the bride need to prioritize being full of the Holy Spirit/ oil in lamp and some extra..

 

[rebuilder 454]

The length of the tribulation is seven years. This is determined by an understanding of the seventy weeks of Daniel (Daniel 9:24–27; also see the article on the tribulation). The Great Tribulation is the last half of the tribulation period, three and one-half years in length. Reference

Ask him again who the white horse rider is in the seals opening.

 

[The Light]

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"Again. You have no scripture that says that there is a 7 year tribulation. If there is one, I would sure like to see it."

Just pretend Daniel 9 ;27 is wrong.
1 WEEK = 7 YEARS
In THE MIDDLE OF THE WEEK ...HELLO..7 YEARS... THE TEMPLE IS DESCECRATED.
3.5 INTO THE 7 YEARS THE TEMPLE IS DESCECRATED.
IT COULD NOT BE MORE PLAIN

Why would I need to pretend Daniel 9:27 is wrong? Please point out where the Word of God says that there is a 7 year tribulation in Daniel 9:27. The tribulation begins in the midst of the week not at the beginning of the week.

Daniel 9
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

I'm not saying there is not a final week. I am saying that the final week begins when the covenant with many is made.

There is no scripture that says that the Church is in heaven before the final week.

There is no scripture that says that the final week is 7 years of tribulation.

The Word of God says that there is only 3.5 years remaining in the 70th week of Daniel. FACT.

 

[CrowCross]

Why would I need to pretend Daniel 9:27 is wrong? Please point out where the Word of God says that there is a 7 year tribulation in Daniel 9:27. The tribulation begins in the midst of the week not at the beginning of the week.

Daniel 9
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

I'm not saying there is not a final week. I am saying that the final week begins when the covenant with many is made.

There is no scripture that says that the Church is in heaven before the final week.

There is no scripture that says that the final week is 7 years of tribulation.

The Word of God says that there is only 3.5 years remaining in the 70th week of Daniel. FACT.

You need to re-read Daniel...
Daniel 9
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Has the covenant been confirmed?

 

[The Light]

Those things mentioned in Matt 24 are the labor pains.

Right. The first four seals.

 

[CrowCross]

Right. The first four seals.

Just when did those 4 horsemen appear in history???

 

[The Light]

You need to re-read Daniel...
Daniel 9
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Has the covenant been confirmed?

There is a 7 year covenant with many that is made that begins the final week. Nothing there says the final week is a 7 year tribulation.

Also, nothing says that the seven year covenant with many is confirmed by the AC when it is made.

There is only 3.5 years remaining in the 70th week of Daniel.........time, times and half a time.

 

[The Light]

Just when did those 4 horsemen appear in history???

No seals are opened so they have not appeared.

The seals will not be opened until after the Church is in heaven. Revelation 4, 5.

 

[The Light]

Ask him again who the white horse rider is in the seals opening.

The rider on the white horse is AN Antichrist, the beast of the earth. He is the 7th king who causes the world to worship the 8th king, the beast of the sea.

 

[David in NJ]

The amills IMO are only going by what they have been told.
One thing they have been told is that Darby invented the rapture and dispensations...They believe that and never investigated that untruth.

untruth = pre-trib rapture

JESUS only spoke of One Second Coming = post-trib Resurrection

Actually, Jesus returning twice is man-made untruth

If those who speak falsehood will repent, you will know the truth and the truth will set you FREE