All are under sin:

[Helen]

Who is this "you" you are referring to?

Good one Triumph...he catches us when ever 'we' say ...we, them, you, they, us etc... he always says " who are they or who are we etc...
So you played Mark at his own game...well played.

 

[bbyrd009]

bc i guess we will be guided by our beliefs
obv if you think Jesus

imo the person i was speaking to was pretty obvious, sorry if i inferred an actual "you" to you there ok. but you cut out the "obv" there huh, to help make your point

Who is this "you" you are referring to?

that is what you choose to thread from the post

 

[Triumph1300]

Well....what is obv?
I can't figure out some of the stuff you are posting.

 

[brakelite]

You cannot have faith that believes in the justification through the Lamb but rejects the faith that believes in the power and willingness of the Father to recreate us in the image of the Lamb.
To claim that God asks us to do something we cannot possibly do is an insult to His character. Sure, God gave Israel commandments they didn't keep, but not because they couldn't, but because they went about it the wrong way. They went about establishing their own righteousness...trying to obey in their own strength...rather than trusting God to do for them what they could not do in and of themselves. The just shall live by faith. The Israelites in front of Sinai promised God they would obey. God did not ask them to promise anything. Just as He doesn't ask you to promise anything today. But He does ask you to believe. When God says thou shalt not commit adultery, He is not asking you to act, He is asking you to believe! Its a promise more than a commandment. A commandment to the unbelieving, a promise to the believer.
To write off the law altogether and make Moses some sort of despotic pariah just because of your lack of faith in God's power to recreate you in righteousness, is a revelation of such a lack of faith that it could well keep you out of the kingdom. It is a similar lack of faith that kept Israel out of Canaan.

 

[Episkopos]

It was asked by someone “would God ask us to do what we couldn’t do?“

The answer is yes, He asked the Jews to keep the Law of Moses. However, when they, the Jews, killed their Messiah (Jesus) He {God} concluded that no man could keep the Law of Moses and He had another plan to save sinful men, a plan to shed the blood of His righteous Son on the cross to pay for all the sins of mankind.

We can only fulfill the holy requirements of the law through grace. So then what we couldn't do due to the weakness of the flesh we now put on Christ in order to do as He did. That is the purpose of His coming. To equip us to walk in what He has perfected in the weakness of the flesh.


Romans 3:9-10
9 What then? Are we better than they? Not at all. For we have previously charged both Jews and Greeks that they are all under sin.
10 As it is written: "There is none righteous, no, not one;
NKJV

There is none so righteous that they do not sin. All our righteousnesses are as filthy rags to God...but what of the righteousnesss of God? Is that filthy rags as well? So many believers see no difference in the effect of grace on sinful men. They make out God's righteousness to be no better than that of men.

Galatians 3:21-26
21 Is the law then against the promises of God? Certainly not! For if there had been a law given which could have given life, truly righteousness would have been by the law.
22 But the Scripture has confined all under sin, that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe.
23 But before faith came, we were kept under guard by the law, kept for the faith which would afterward be revealed.
24 Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.
26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus.
NKJV

There is a new and living way now through Jesus...not the same old weakness as before... but how many understand that?

In this age of God’s grace salvation in not obtained by “not sinning in the flesh.” It is only obtained by a person placing their belief in the work of God on the cross. That means for a person to deny that they can do anything righteous to save him/her self and to simply place all their faith, trust, confidence and hope in what Jesus did on the cross. To claim His work on our behalf is our salvation. Jesus (God) gets all the glory and praise.

We are saved through His resurrection power...which is the grace to overcome sin. He was raised for our justification...into the righteousness of God....which is without spot or wrinkle.

In this age of God’s grace all God asks a person to do is trust in His plan of salvation by placing their faith in His Son’s work on the cross. It is the only way that a person can be saved and yet many do not believe it is that simple.

God doesn't save us in our sin...but from our sin. Otherwise why would it be so important for Jesus to be raised again from the dead? His atoning death would have sufficed if there was no grace available to walk as Jesus walked. How many actually walk in denial of His resurrection? If Christ be not raised then we would still be dead in our sins....so then we put on Christ and HIS life in order to walk in the righteousness of God.

2 Corinthians 11:3
3 But I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
NKJV

One can keep it simple without denying the power of God usward who believe.

 

[Episkopos]

This statement...


But salvation has always been by grace through faith in God and Christ, and the perfect finished work of Christ on the Cross.


10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

We are that work. We have become the righteousness of God IN Christ (no filthy rags here).

Heb. 10:14 For by a single offering he has perfected into a perpetual state... those who are being sanctified.

We can walk as Jesus walked by putting on Christ.

 

[Nancy]

This statement...
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
We are that work. We have become the righteousness of God IN Christ (no filthy rags here).

"Heb. 10:14 For by a single offering he has perfected into a perpetual state... those who are being sanctified." Being sanctified? We ARE sanctified-SET APART, and sealed by the Holy Spirit. We are RENEWING our minds. Christians do not get sanctified in increments, how can that even be?

Heb. 10:14 KJV
14For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

Heb. 10:14 NASV
For by a single offering he has perfected for all time those who are sanctified.

Heb. 10:14 ESV
And by that will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

Heb. 10:14 KJV
By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

And by that will, we have been sanctified through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

Heb. 10:14 NASB
By this will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.