Amos 3.3, a thoughtful verse: "Can two walk together, except they be agreed?"

[amadeus]

Hello amadeus,

Why would you think the reality is not present in the image?

Why would I think the reality of you is in a mirror image of you or in a statue sculptured to look like you?

Here is Paul on the subject:
For anyone who eats and drinks without discerning the body, eats and drinks judgment on himself

Peace be with you!

Indeed, which is why based on my own convictions I do not partake of the bread nor wafer nor cracker in any communion services, nor of the wine nor grape juice of same. I eat rather daily of his flesh [the scriptures] and drink of his blood [the Holy Spirit, the quickening Spirit].

 

[amadeus]

But there is no reference to the Lord's Supper in John 6...

At least apparently none that you have seen or heard previously from any man.

Following the Him and hearing His voice is essential, is it not? Have you never heard His voice? Do listen only to the voices of strangers?

"To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.
And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.
And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers" John 10:3-5

 

[Philip James]

Why would I think the reality of you is in a mirror image of you or in a statue sculptured to look like you?

Why indeed! Jesus did not take the bread and say 'this is an image of my body' but rather 'this is my body' ... I believe Him!

Indeed, which is why based on my own convictions I do not partake of the bread nor wafer nor cracker in any communion services, nor of the wine nor grape juice of same. I eat rather daily of his flesh [the scriptures] and drink of his blood [the Holy Spirit, the quickening Spirit].

And again, Jesus did not hold up the scriptures and say 'this is my body, take and eat'

We must , each of us, follow the conviction of the Spirit.

For me, the injunction in Hebrews not to absent oneself from the assembly, or treat as an unclean thing the covenant blood that saved me, is crystal clear....

But for one who does not believe, it is indeed better to abstain...

Please dont misunderstand me. I don't mean to suggest that you do not believe in Jesus, or follow where the Spirit leads you.. I rejoice that you do...

But I know the joy of the wedding feast, of the intimate union of the Groom and His bride.. He united with us, and we through Him, united with one another...
And I would that you and all my scattered brothers and sisters could share that joy!

Peace be with you!

 

[amadeus]

Why indeed! Jesus did not take the bread and say 'this is an image of my body' but rather 'this is my body' ... I believe Him!



And again, Jesus did not hold up the scriptures and say 'this is my body, take and eat'

We must , each of us, follow the conviction of the Spirit.

For me, the injunction in Hebrews not to absent oneself from the assembly, or treat as an unclean thing the covenant blood that saved me, is crystal clear....

But for one who does not believe, it is indeed better to abstain...

Please dont misunderstand me. I don't mean to suggest that you do not believe in Jesus, or follow where the Spirit leads you.. I rejoice that you do...

But I know the joy of the wedding feast, of the intimate union of the Groom and His bride.. He united with us, and we through Him, united with one another...
And I would that you and all my scattered brothers and sisters could share that joy!

Peace be with you!

Thank you my friend for standing where you are without condemning those not in the same place.

Give God the glory!

 

[Philip James]

Give God the glory!

Indeed! And may HE always watch over your path!

Peace!

 

[farouk]

@Deborah_ FYI...

 

[Deborah_]

It's faith in the Lord Jesus Who 'by Himself purged our sins' (Hebrews 1) that truly saves, not by taking the symbols, albeit that He instituted.

But "taking the symbols" makes our faith visible.

 

[farouk]

But "taking the symbols" makes our faith visible.

Oh I wholeheartedly believing in observing Matt. 26, Mark 14, Luke 22, 1 Corinthians 11.

But not in a supposed transubstantiation held exclusively by a Hierarchy.

 

[farouk]

Ephesians 4.11-16 shows that true spiritual unity relates to truth and doctrine which unites believers with their risen Head:

"And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;

12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:

13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;

15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:

16 From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love."

 

[John Caldwell]

"Can two walk together, except they be agreed?" Amos 3.3

Food for thought...

I guess it depends on the level of agreement. If it is about lima beans being good, then no.

There are areas where disagreement can sharpen one or both parties. I think that we have to be united in Christ, though.

 

[farouk]

I guess it depends on the level of agreement. If it is about lima beans being good, then no.

There are areas where disagreement can sharpen one or both parties. I think that we have to be united in Christ, though.

I think it's good to remember, as the saying goes, that unity without truth is a conspiracy.

 

[farouk]

@John Caldwell Amos 3.3 is a searching principle, anyway, isn't it?

 

[farouk]

@Finesse FYI....

 

[farouk]

@FollowHim FYI....

 

[farouk]

But "taking the symbols" makes our faith visible.

The breaking of bread is linked with various other activities in Acts 2.42; it's not sometimes supposed to be done in isolation.

 

[farouk]

@Heart2Soul thanks for all the 'likes'...

 

[farouk]

@jshiii FYI.....

 

[Enoch111]

Why indeed! Jesus did not take the bread and say 'this is an image of my body' but rather 'this is my body' ... I believe Him!

Christ said about the bread "this is my body". But those who partook of it clearly understood that it was purely symbolic, yet of great significance. Had Jesus taken some of his literal flesh (cut a piece off His arm) and presented it, everyone would have been horrified (including you).

 

[farouk]

Christ said about the bread "this is my body". But those who partook of it clearly understood that it was purely symbolic, yet of great significance. Had Jesus taken some of his literal flesh (cut a piece off His arm) and presented it, everyone would have been horrified (including you).

It is indeed symbolic.

 

[farouk]

@charity FYI...