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never said the Bible no!
I said the doctrine of the “Bible alone”! No
Hmmm...so any doctrine that disagrees with YOUR doctrine it is a made up doctrine of men but when you.....a man I presume(?)....teach/preach YOUR doctrine it is not man made? Fascinating.....Men’s MADE-UP Doctrines ... philosophies of men ... obviously, so much better for you....
You were WARNED Against what you promote...
Col 2:
[8] Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
Men’s MADE-UP Doctrines ... philosophies of men ... obviously, so much better for you....
You were WARNED Against what you promote...
Col 2:
[8] Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
so we stick the tradition of Christ and scripture thanks
Comprehension problem? You do just what it warns not to do.
You've already ignored it.Hmmmm....I thought post #220 was your research. I will disregard that post and I look forward to your answer/research.
Mary
Don't be so arrogant and smug. I said I would research it...
scripture was the product of tradition
1 cor 11:23 example of tradition
2 Thessalonians 2:15
Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
not the Bible alone acts 2:42
“...not the Bible alone...”
More false history from the notorious SDA. You are appealing to known heretics, Helvidius, Jovinian, and Vigilantius? Too afraid to cite the source of this Seventh Day Adventist propaganda? Even Calvin accused Helvidius of "excessive ignorance". And you have to demonize St. Jerome. It would take several long posts to refute the nonsense in this SDA article, which would be a waste of time.First among those who protested against heathen practices in the church was Helvidius I (c. A.D. 250-420 [sic]). blah, blah, blah...
But you don't name any traditions, and have changed the meaning of "tradition" to build a straw man fallacy. There are no Catholic Traditions outside of Scripture. Sacred Traditions were well established authentic beliefs and practices (in a community you have little in common with) before the canonization of the Bible. The evidence is there for anyone who wishes to see it.In fact I find Catholic Traditions outside of Scripture an abomination.
Hmmm...so any doctrine that disagrees with YOUR doctrine it is a made up doctrine of men but when you.....a man I presume(?)....teach/preach YOUR doctrine it is not man made? Fascinating.....
Duchesne who was quoted...More false history from the notorious SDA. You are appealing to known heretics, Helvidius, Jovinian, and Vigilantius? Too afraid to cite the source of this Seventh Day Adventist propaganda? Even Calvin accused Helvidius of "excessive ignorance". And you have to demonize St. Jerome. It would take several long posts to refute the nonsense in this SDA article, which would be a waste of time.
Was a Catholic priest and historian... The quote came from one of his books Early History of the Christian Church, 3 vols., John Murray, London, 1923.Duchesne points out that Auxentius, for twenty years at the head of the diocese of Milan, was from Asia Minor and impressed on those regions the Syrian leadership in Christianity. Daring in his scholarship, Helvidius accused Jerome, as Jerome himself admits, of using corrupt Greek manuscripts. ⁷That part of the ecclesiastical system of the fourth century, which was peculiarly ascetic and rigid, found an impersonation in Jerome, who exhibited its worst and most repulsive traits in the whole tenor of his life and conversation. Sourness, bitterness, envy, intolerance, and dissatisfaction with every manifestation of sanctity which did not come up to his own standard, had become habitual to him, and were betrayed in almost everything that he wrote, said, or did. Censoriousness, and the spirit of invective, were amongst his most strongly marked failings, and the very best men of the age did not escape his censure.”
LOL...you say, “not the Bible alone”, then reference Acts 2:42.
Acts 2:
[42] And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
Jesus broke bread.
Jesus prayed.
Not shocking the Apostle’s continued in that Tradition!
Not NEWS, Catholics have established their OWN TRADITIONS, outside of the Confines of Scripture....
outside of the Confines of what Jesus did,
outside the Confines what the Apostles did.
You have said that, repeated that, repeated that to ad nauseam.
Not a Secret, you are Catholic, you Support, you Promote Catholic Traditions outside of Scripture....
I neither agree with you, nor find your support and promotion of Catholic Traditions outside of Scripture ANYTHING to brag about, be proud of, support or promote.
In fact I find Catholic Traditions outside of Scripture an abomination.
acts 2:42 they held to the doctrine or teaching of the apostles not the “Bible alone”
Where is the teaching of the Apostles, if not IN the Bible?
And you are steadfast in not giving logical answers....Fascinating to say the least.You are fascinated by asking me a question ... LOL
And you are steadfast in not giving logical answers....Fascinating to say the least.