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Discussion in 'Christian Theology Forum' started by justbyfaith, Nov 21, 2020.

  1. Grailhunter

    Grailhunter Well-Known Member

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    lol You have to be careful with perspectives. The Jews looked at the Hebrew Bible the same way...anything added was considered false. So they considered the New Testament as invalid, the same way fundamentalists looks at writings outside the Bible as false.
     
  2. Christophany

    Christophany Well-Known Member

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    Healings are Miracles, not medicine.

    Find one Miracle in the bible from Jesus and the Apostles by medicine.

    Now be on your way believing the lies you have been taught about Isaiah 53:5.

    Now all the back peddling begins and there is absolutely no consistency whatsoever in your doctrine and are just making excuses.
     
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    justbyfaith Well-Known Member

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    Paul told Timothy to take a little wine for his frequent stomach ailments (a medicinal application of the use of wine).

    I most certainly believe that the healing that was brought about through this advice was provided for in the atonement (Isaiah 53:5).

    You can think differently if you want; but you have no scriptural support, either, to say that this healing was not provided for in the atonement.

    Also, near the end of the book of Revelation it is written that there were leaves of a tree that will be for the healing of the nations...this implies the use of medicine.
     
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    justbyfaith Well-Known Member

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    Triumph1300 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, true.
    That's why I take your opinion with a big bag of salt. :)
     
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    Devin Wintch Well-Known Member

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    Jesus is supposed to have appeared to the Americas after his resurrection. That is the testament of the Book of Mormon. He also appeared to others like the apostles. But Joseph Smith was killed and he was the translator of the Book of Mormon.

    I'm currently back and forth between being Catholic and Mormon. I'm currently leaning towards Mormon but with reservations towards Catholic. I had a vision of Heavenly Father and Heavenly Mother and filled with Peace and Love that was intense and lasted for hours (Galatians 5:22-23). And LDS proclaims a Heavenly Mother. I've also had other visions and visitations that were from God's spirit and body (from a great distance) and once was told if I wasn't Catholic I was going to the lake of fire. So I kinda go back and forth.
     
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    Did I miss something here, JD? Was JBF's disposition on certain issues advertised somewhere before, that you would just divulge such personal information to everyone, and not keep it to a private message?
    Yes, I find him incessant, stubborn, deluded and difficult. But, again, unless I missed something, that was just a very callous and inappropriate remark to make about his alleged 'mental condition', on a public page.
     
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    justbyfaith Well-Known Member

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    Most certainly the concept of Old and New Testaments is there:

    Heb 9:15, And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.

    Now either you did not know your Bible well enough to make a statement like that or else you were deliberately lying about what is contained in the Bible.

    Which one was it?
     
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    Christophany Well-Known Member

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    he has made it public himself in several threads just search for mental illness and see for yourself.
     
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    ...you need to start questioning the source of your visions.
     
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    Devin, you are on the wrong track. I truly believe evil spirits are feeding you. Don't be fooled by "heavenly mothers" and don't be fooled "that if you are not catholic you will end up in hell".

    1 John 4:1
    Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.

    Ephesians 6:10-12
    Finally, be strong in the Lord and in the strength of his might. Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the schemes of the devil. For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.

     
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    Well, Devin, I hope you will take into account the evidence that I have presented here for the book of mormon having no possibility of being another "testament" of Jesus Christ. It should be clear to you that this is not the case since Jesus did not die a second time.

    Yours in Christ,

    @justbyfaith.
     
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    justbyfaith Well-Known Member

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    That is no justification for utilizing that information against me as an ad hominem.
     
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    I see, ok, I'm not surprised that there was a public history about it. For, it seemed a little out-of-character for JD to be so insulting, so I did ask if I had missed something first.
    Thanks Christophany.

    But, in my personal opinion, what happens in Vegas, should stay in Vegas. Different threads have different contexts, it's not always fair to bring a remark by someone else from a previous thread, into a new one? Not sure if it applies exactly here, but it is a reasonable principle to follow in general.
     
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    then don't make your personal affairs public. you have no one to blame but yourself.
     
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    DNB Well-Known Member

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    So do I @Devin Wintch
     
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    Devin Wintch Well-Known Member

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    Questioning the Holy Spirit is evil an potentially unforgivable. Galatians 5:22-23 verifies what is from the Holy Spirit.
     
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    But a certain amount of discretion on another's behalf should be honoured by each of us. In order to refute a point, it's not always relevant to bring an expression from what may have been said 3 weeks ago, into a specific context, now.

    But, you are right, personal discretion is always the best policy. I even private messaged a couple of posters about this - keep your private lives to yourself. 99% of the time, it's not relevant nor appropriate.
     
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    Christophany Well-Known Member

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    preaching to the choir
     
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    You arenot receiving messages from the Holy Spirit.
    You are receiving messages from evil spirits.

    I am out of here, Devin is not reading or responding to people wanting to help.
    Can only hope and pray somebody will to talk and pray with him in person.
     
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