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Discussion in 'Christian Theology Forum' started by justbyfaith, Nov 21, 2020.

  1. DNB

    DNB Well-Known Member

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    Well, in that case, then let me reiterate, you REALLY NEED TO START QUESTIONING THE SOURCE OF YOUR INSPIRATIONS, like really.
    Don't accuse me of insulting the Holy Spirit, I'm not the one ascribing such unquestionable nonsense to Him, you are.
     
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    DNB Well-Known Member

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    Probably, ...maybe for others then!
     
  3. justbyfaith

    justbyfaith Well-Known Member

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    I divested the information in question believing that I have support from the people on these boards and knowing that my disability does not disqualify me from ministry; since it is a thorn in my flesh to keep me from being exalted above measure and also, that God has chosen the weak things of the world to shame the strong and the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; and that this tidbit in holy scripture is commonly known by most believers.

    And the fact that you didn't use the quote feature to quote my post does not make it any less a direct response to me, @Christophany.

    Of course I have no one to blame but myself for giving such information to people who might use it against me.

    But the fact that they do use it against me, makes them my enemies and also persecutors of me in what I am attempting to do here. And, it is written,

    Gal 4:28, Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
    Gal 4:29, But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.

    And, if people really are your enemies, it ain't paranoia to call them your enemies!
     
  4. Devin Wintch

    Devin Wintch Well-Known Member

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    Did you even read Galatians 5:22-23? It spells out the fruit of the Holy Spirit that you taste with your soul. Intense Love and Peace, and also I felt Joy, are three of those fruits. That verifies that it was God. You really shouldn't be calling God evil.
     
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    Devin Wintch Well-Known Member

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    I didn't have time to read thru the whole thread, but I did read the arguments in the OP, which are invalid since Jesus appeared and testified of the resurrection to the Saints after his death and resurrection on that continent, and if you believe the Book of Mormon, then on the American continent too. That testament is witnessed and recorded after the death of Jesus. So there appears to be a great flaw in your logic and reasoning. I doubt anyone with sound reasoning will accept those arguments.
     
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    Discretion is the best policy. Everything only on a need-to-know basis. Personal information does not help or elucidate any part of theological discussions.
     
  7. justbyfaith

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    The fact is, the book of mormon claims to be another testament of Jesus Christ.

    Where is the death involved in this third testament? Did Jesus die a second time?

    Did you read the scriptures in question (quoted in the OP)?

    If this "other testament" is based on the original death of Jesus, is it not the same testament?

    Why then is it called "another"?
     
  8. justbyfaith

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    Of course, the information in question is a major part of the word of my testimony; by which I will overcome the accuser of the brethren along with the blood of the Lamb and the fact that I do not love my life unto the death.

    So it couldn't be helped that this information be out there.

    Maliciousness on the part of those who hate my doctrine only testifies to the nature of their spirit.
     
  9. Devin Wintch

    Devin Wintch Well-Known Member

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    You're missing the point. Jesus appeared and testified of his resurrection in the New Testament. Is that also another testament of Jesus the Christ then, similar to the Book of Mormon? If your argument was valid then Jesus would have resurrected himself, appear to the apostles (who wrote down the testament and shared it) and then Jesus must die again, and all of this simply from the argument your making.

    Basically any testament after Jesus' death must be "another testament" of Jesus the Christ. Or are you thinking this is some super specially retroactive testament in the New Testament of the resurrection of Jesus and the others that rose from the dead after he was resurrected?
     
  10. Jane_Doe22

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    You are missing something here: me doing just that and repeatedly addressing this in private messages. Over and over again, going on repeat every few months. Many of them (like this one) literally the same things over and over again. Many mental breakdowns on justbyfaith's part.

    I strive to be really courteous of others, especially those whom have mental ailments. I have determined that those most charitable thing I can do for justbyfaith's mental health is to ignore his endless parade of strawman arguments, peacefully walk away with a prayer about Him to God. It's the most charitable thing that can be done.

    When just JBF choose once again to repeat the same loop again here, those most charitable course is again peacefully walk away with a prayer.
     
  11. Grailhunter

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    I know the Bible and I know scriptures, but you will find just about anything in the King James Version.
     
  12. Christophany

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    especially if one is a KJV onlyist.

    they are self proclaimed experts and are above everyone else in wisdom and knowledge, just ask one :)

    they will tell you how smart they are and how stupid everyone else is who disagrees with them and uses the NIV or NASB or ESV and even the NKJV.
     
  13. justbyfaith

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    I do not follow your logic or reasoning.

    btw, Jesus did raise Himself from the dead (John 2:19-21, John 10:18).

    But the New Testament was based on Jesus' singular death; and in order for you to have "another testament" He would basically have to die again in order to produce that "another" testament.

    There is no indication that the first and only death of Jesus produced "another" testament...it produced the singular New Testament.
     
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    Except that is not what you did. What you did was engage in an ad hominem attack against me utilizing information that was basically between me and you for the most part.

    And for the record, not every instance in which you think I was having a breakdown, was I having a breakdown. That is merely your unfaithful judgment of me in order that you might not accept what I was attempting to say to you. If the messenger is faulty, then you don't have to heed the message. This is a logical fallacy, but people really do believe in its validity. Which is why they project their own insanity onto people like me when the words that I am speaking to them are hitting home. I suggest you read Hosea 9:7 and 2 Corinthians 5:13. Paul was even accused of being mentally ill (yet he was not mentally ill); and if I have simply accepted a false diagnosis to the point that I have proclaimed it to other people; and they have believed it to be true because that way they don't have to heed what the Holy Ghost is saying to them through me: then perhaps I only, also, stand as accused, while 2 Timothy 1:7 may still be true of me.
     
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    And there are self-evident idiots.
    It takes all kinds and God bless them all lol
     
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    Devin Wintch Well-Known Member

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    Then the book of mormon is a portion of the new testament with your logic, its just incomplete and didnt include jewish new testament.
     
  17. justbyfaith

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    The invalidity of these versions of the Bible is not based on how smart the adherents to kjv-superior theology are.

    It is based on the fact that these other versions remove tons of information and the fact that I, as a believer and proponent of the kjv-superior viewpoint, do not want to be cheated out of what the Holy Spirit might want to say to me.

    If you want to miss an important message, then faithfully read the watered-down translations...for they are missing certain words, phrases, sentences, paragraphs, and even entire passages.

    With that kind of structural integrity, I do not trust them to translate accurately the verses that they do include within them.
     
  18. Devin Wintch

    Devin Wintch Well-Known Member

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    As far as evidence of another testament, that is in the bible itself.

    John 10:16

    And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
     
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    Except that it claims to be "another" testament of Jesus Christ.

    If it is "another" testament, then there must be another death involved in the creating of it. But Jesus didn't die a 2nd time (Romans 6:9).

    You cannot escape the fact that the title on the book of mormon says "another" testament of Jesus Christ.

    If it were faithful and true, it would not have claimed that...it would have claimed to be an extension of the New Testament.
     
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    more foolish speculation without facts by jbf..............the kjv only are blind leading the blind.
     
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