anti-christ sitting in the rebuilt Jewish 3rd. temple saying he is god.

[brakelite]

The Spirit of God transferred to the church on Pentecost, but the temple in Jerusalem did not cease to be recognized as the temple of the Jewish God by the nations of the world

wadr, what the nations of the world think is irrelevant. What God thought was plain and clear... Your house is left into you desolate. No longer was the presence of God in that temple... That God answered Paul in a vision in the temple is also by the by.
The point is that God will never inhabit a third temple... It will never and cannot ever be called the temple (or dwelling place) of God.

 

[Enoch111]

The point is that God will never inhabit a third temple... It will never and cannot ever be called the temple (or dwelling place) of God.

You are speaking from a Christian perspective, and no Christian will dispute this. Which is fine and good, but does not apply. A lot of Christians cannot avoid projecting their understanding of the New Covenant on to events which will occur until the second coming of Christ.

As far as the Jews are concerned, they wish to build a third temple and wish to welcome their *Messiah*, and as far as God is concerned, it fits right into His plans and purposes. He has already allowed Satan and the Antichrist absolute rule for 3 1/2 years in the future, and a significant part of that plan is to allow the Abomination of Desolation to be placed within the future temple.

 

[Hidden In Him]

Just a technical point. Your verse does not say temple of God and God told Paul to get out of town fast.

Remember, this was very soon after his conversion on the road and he was a Pharisee.

It doesn't matter what the world saw the temple as. What God sword as did

Remember the veil was torn taking the presence of God away from the priest and giving it to the believers.

He referred to it as "the temple." With no qualifiers such as "temple of Zeus/ temple of Satan," one must conclude his reference was the commonly understood one; the temple of God in Jerusalem. Certainly he was not blandly calling it some form of generic "temple," for he also referenced purifying himself ritually in it in Acts 24:18. How could he believe he had purified himself according to Jewish Law if he did not still regard it as the temple of God?

 

[Enoch111]

In the NT, the temple of God is Christendom.

Not *Christendom* but the Church (all redeemed Jews and Gentiles within the Body of Christ). Christendom consists of both sheep and goats.

But totally irrelevant as far as the fulfillment of prophecy is concerned. However, since you believe all prophecies have already been fulfilled (or just about), you will never get a proper understanding of this.

 

[Hidden In Him]

wadr, what the nations of the world think is irrelevant. What God thought was plain and clear... Your house is left into you desolate. No longer was the presence of God in that temple... That God answered Paul in a vision in the temple is also by the by.
The point is that God will never inhabit a third temple... It will never and cannot ever be called the temple (or dwelling place) of God.

Brakelite, you are basing this position solely on a doctrinal assumption. This view of yours to spiritualize away the temple gained acceptance after the literal temple in Jerusalem had long been destroyed, and Israel ceased to be a nation. I could understand holding to this view way back then. But circumstances have changed. Israel IS a nation again, and they have very clear aspirations on building a temple once more. And Ezekiel's temple was never built to specification, and everything Christ told the Jewish believers in Matthew 24 suggests He was telling them about literal events that would come to pass, including the setting up of the abomination of desolation. There is no way on God's green earth the disciples would have received that teaching as some form of spiritualization! Nor should they have. Nor should we in the 21st century. Israel is a nation once more, she is surrounded by enemies on every side, and the events described in Biblical prophecy are literally starting to take shape right before our eyes.

With all due respect to you too, I've told you this before: Your doctrinal outlook sometimes causes you to see things that simply aren't there, and here it is causing you to fail to see some things that actually are.

 

[brakelite]

You are speaking from a Christian perspective, and no Christian will dispute this. Which is fine and good, but does not apply. A lot of Christians cannot avoid projecting their understanding of the New Covenant on to events which will occur until the second coming of Christ.

As far as the Jews are concerned, they wish to build a third temple and wish to welcome their *Messiah*, and as far as God is concerned, it fits right into His plans and purposes. He has already allowed Satan and the Antichrist absolute rule for 3 1/2 years in the future, and a significant part of that plan is to allow the Abomination of Desolation to be placed within the future temple.

I don't doubt that some Jews, and Christian Zionists, are preparing a third temple. But it is irrelevant because futurists and Preterists misunderstand God's purposes, and both hermeneutics were built deliberately to disguise the true Antichrist who is already sitting in the temple of God proclaiming himself God. And had already fulfilled the 1260 day...42 month... Time times and half a time prophecy.
There is no future Antichrist individual about to decimate Christians. The Antichrist is already deceiving millions, including you. There is no future 7 year countdown to the second coming. Daniel's 70 weeks was completed in 34ad.
There is no future global mega war against Israel. It is the church that will be..is... the focus of Satans scorn and hatred. He doesn't give a toss about Israel. He only cares to destroy what God cares about. Those who represent His Son.

 

[brakelite]

Brakelite, you are basing this position solely on a doctrinal assumption. This view of yours to spiritualize away the temple gained acceptance after the literal temple in Jerusalem had long been destroyed, and Israel ceased to be a nation. I could understand holding to this view way back then. But circumstances have changed. Israel IS a nation again, and they have very clear aspirations on building a temple once more. And Ezekiel's temple was never built to specification, and everything Christ told the Jewish believers in Matthew 24 suggests He was telling them about literal events that would come to pass, including the setting up of the abomination of desolation. There is no way on God's green earth the disciples would have received that teaching as some form of spiritualization! Nor should they have. Nor should we in the 21st century. Israel is a nation once more, she is surrounded by enemies on every side, and the events described in Biblical prophecy are literally starting to take shape right before our eyes.

With all due respect to you too, I've told you this before: Your doctrinal outlook sometimes causes you to see things that simply aren't there, and here it is causing you to fail to see some things that actually are.

I see Israel as a smokescreen. The "tale of Two cities" we discussed previously is between two women... Babylon and Jerusalem . One represents fallen humanity, the other redeemed humanity. One the apostate church, the other the remnant of her seed.
The nation of Israel is certainly playing a role, and while most believe her existence today as a nation is due to God's personal miraculous intervention, I believe it is more due to political connivance inspired by the Prince of this world for the purpose of deflecting attention away from prophetic reality.
The Elephant in the Room No-one Admits to.

 

[Hidden In Him]

There is no future global mega war against Israel. It is the church that will be..is... the focus of Satans scorn and hatred. He doesn't give a toss about Israel.

The nation of Israel is certainly playing a role, and while most believe her existence today as a nation is due to God's personal miraculous intervention, I believe it is more due to political connivance inspired by the Prince of this world for the purpose of deflecting attention away from prophetic reality.

Buddy, if Satan has no designs against the Jews anymore then you are apparently likewise attributing the deaths of 6,000,000 of them at the hands of Hitler to "deflecting attention away from prophetic reality." I think your attention is being deflected away from actual reality. Satan hates that race as much today as he ever has, and the hatred building up within Muslims towards them virtually mirrors that manifested by the NAZIs. You don't think the hatred being exhibited by Hitler and Himler was genuine hatred, inspired by the Devil?

 

[Trekson]

The problem is, Antichrist sits in the Temple of God. And a rebuilt temple is not the Temple of God. Christ and believers are God's temple.

We know that but the Jews don't. That's the whole point of His return to take back what rightfully belongs to Him. The A/c will temporarily usurp the throne.

 

[Enoch111]

There is no future global mega war against Israel.

Christians can either accept EVERYTHING revealed in the Bible, or go to some other book for divine revelations (and be deceived).

You say "there is no future global mega war against Israel" even though it is clearly and repeatedly mentioned in the Bible. Dave says "Christ is Israel" and thereby dismisses all the prophecies about Israel. He also says the Church is the Temple of God, therefore there can be no actual third temple in Jerusalem.

So you now have to make up your mind. Whether you will cherry-pick what suits you and ignore the rest, or accept everything and believe it (no matter how irrational or impossible it sounds).

Just one Scripture passage to refute your misconception:

ISAIAH 29
1 Woe to Ariel*, to Ariel*, the city where David dwelt! [JERUSALEM] add ye year to year; let them kill sacrifices.
2 Yet I will distress Ariel, and there shall be heaviness and sorrow: and it shall be unto me as Ariel...
7 And the multitude of all the nations that fight against Ariel, even all that fight against her and her munition, and that distress her, shall be as a dream of a night vision.
8 It shall even be as when an hungry man dreameth, and, behold, he eateth; but he awaketh, and his soul is empty: or as when a thirsty man dreameth, and, behold, he drinketh; but he awaketh, and, behold, he is faint, and his soul hath appetite: so shall the multitude of all the nations be, that fight against mount Zion.

Strong's Concordance
*Ariel: "lioness of El," a symbolic name for Jerusalem
Original Word: אֲרִיאֵל
Part of Speech: Proper Name
Transliteration: Ariel
Phonetic Spelling: (ar-ee-ale')
Definition: "lioness of El", a symbolic name for Jerusalem

 

[Hidden In Him]

Just one Scripture passage to refute your misconception:

ISAIAH 29
1 Woe to Ariel*, to Ariel*, the city where David dwelt! [JERUSALEM] add ye year to year; let them kill sacrifices.
2 Yet I will distress Ariel, and there shall be heaviness and sorrow: and it shall be unto me as Ariel...
7 And the multitude of all the nations that fight against Ariel, even all that fight against her and her munition, and that distress her, shall be as a dream of a night vision.
8 It shall even be as when an hungry man dreameth, and, behold, he eateth; but he awaketh, and his soul is empty: or as when a thirsty man dreameth, and, behold, he drinketh; but he awaketh, and, behold, he is faint, and his soul hath appetite: so shall the multitude of all the nations be, that fight against mount Zion.

@brakelite and @Dave L. This is a very good point. When in history has a multitude of nations ever fought against Israel all at once?

 

[brakelite]

@brakelite and @Dave L. This is a very good point. When in history has a multitude of nations ever fought against Israel all at once?

Rome was not made up of solely Italians.

 

[CoreIssue]

Your reply here makes no sense whatever. Dave said the temple of God is His people. Your deny this and say it is the church. What is the difference?
And btw, there is a temple in the new Jerusalem. High priests only Minister in temples... That is where our high priest currently minister's before the throne of God Father.

Dave says a lot of weird things, such as the church only has the body of Christ and Christ post the church is Israel.

He talks about the church as a nation instead of a group of individuals.

Hardly a good argument on your part to use Dave.

Revelation 21:22 New International Version (NIV)
22 I did not see a temple in the city, because the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple.

The temple in heaven is not in the new Jerusalem

More SDA thinking on your part.

 

[CoreIssue]

He referred to it as "the temple." With no qualifiers such as "temple of Zeus/ temple of Satan," one must conclude his reference was the commonly understood one; the temple of God in Jerusalem. Certainly he was not blandly calling it some form of generic "temple," for he also referenced purifying himself ritually in it in Acts 24:18. How could he believe he had purified himself according to Jewish Law if he did not still regard it as the temple of God?

Yes it was the Temple of Jerusalem. But God had left it.

Paul had just had his conversion experience on the road. He was still a Pharisee in thinking. But his thinking on this point didn't matter.

Any more than the Jews today praying at the Wailing Wall makes it the Temple of God.

 

[Hidden In Him]

Paul had just had his conversion experience on the road.

Ok, come on. Acts 24 is dated to 58 A.D., which is decades after Paul's conversion experience. I think you're rushing your answers.

Paul had just had his conversion experience on the road. He was still a Pharisee in thinking.

He was not, LoL. He was purifying himself in compliance with Jewish Law, and honoring the temple by NOT bringing Gentiles into it, despite being accused of having done so (Acts 21:28-29). This was in order to be all things to all men, including the Jews. He wasn't doing it because he was still a Pharisee in his thinking, LoL.

Yes it was the Temple of Jerusalem. But God had left it.

Any more than the Jews today praying at the Wailing Wall makes it the Temple of God.

I already admitted God left it, but the question is who was it built TO, and who was being worshipped in it. Paul testified before Felix that he went up to Jerusalem to worship (Acts 24:11), and by that he clearly meant that he went up to the temple to honor the living God and worship Him there. Whether the Spirit of God was there was entirely irrelevant. The fact that sacrifices were still being made to Him there and the law of God was still being kept there made what was going on in the temple an act of worship to Him.

 

[Dave L]

@brakelite and @Dave L. This is a very good point. When in history has a multitude of nations ever fought against Israel all at once?

Israel is Jesus and the Church. And has always been attacked by the world (nations).

 

[Dave L]

We know that but the Jews don't. That's the whole point of His return to take back what rightfully belongs to Him. The A/c will temporarily usurp the throne.

The ONLY temple of God is Christendom. Antichrist has been here since Nero and the Papacy and coming soon to a temple near you -Islam.

 

[Dave L]

@Dave L. Sorry if that came off as rude. Just trying to say that spiritualizing the temple away completely flies in the face of both scripture and common sense : )

The Temple of God is not brick ans mortar.
“Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet,” (Acts 7:48) (KJV 1900)

 

[Dave L]

False. The church is currently the temple of God. In the OT Israel it was a stone Temple. In the future Temple it will be a stone Temple.

The future Temple will be the temple Ezekiel describes.

Christ has never been, is not and will never be the temple of God. He will be the high priest of the new temple In the church temple he is our high priest.

In the new Jerusalem there is no temple.

“Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet,” (Acts 7:48) (KJV 1900)

 

[Dave L]

Goodness, Dave. The Spirit of God transferred to the church on Pentecost, but the temple in Jerusalem did not cease to be recognized as the temple of the Jewish God by the nations of the world. If the temple in Jerusalem was not still considered the temple built for Him to dwell in, what on earth did the Romans call it when they destroyed it, a Pizza Hut?

Paul himself referred to the temple in Jerusalem as God's temple long after Pentecost (Acts 22:17). What was he doing, making a boo, boo or something?

P.S. If all you're going to do is double down on your statement without answering my questions, don't bother you Turkey : )

“Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet,” (Acts 7:48) (KJV 1900)