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Discussion in 'Current Events & Politics Forum' started by Soverign Grace, Nov 11, 2019.

  1. Bobby Jo

    Bobby Jo Well-Known Member

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    I certainly agree that the Democrats are maintaining "Diversions" so that we don't look at the lies, corruption, and criminal activity from the previous administration.

    Bobby Jo
     
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    Not worship, -- recognition! Some might argue that both Netanyahu and Trump are both anointed by GOD, (much like Joseph was anointed in his life), yet others can't find anything good to say about this man who is not only working to restore the social fabric and economy of the U.S., but also encourage our Jewish State friends. Afterall, who is to say what a given State's Capital City is? The U.N., or the State?!? And if the State, then exactly what was the problem for the last 50 years, -- Diplomacy or POLITICS?

    Personally, I wonder if Netanyahu and Trump are the two prophets. They could be, but we'll have to see if they are.

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    The struggle for supremacy for Satan is not against the world. They are his regardless. Jesus he can't touch but those who represent him are still on his turf. It is to these that his energies are bent to destroy so he can have unopposed rule over the world.

    Oppression is his M.O. ....A police state is right down his ally....firstly to destroy the opposition, secondly to destroy his subjects. This irreversible destructive vortex he has chosen to engage will finally destroy himself.

    The closer we get to Jesus return the stiffer the opposition to God's people will become. The oppression of humanity will have its rational and in many cases justifiable but also unjustifiable reasons as the increasing chaos envelops the planet.
     
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    Hes appointed many conservative justices. Is that a bad thing?
     
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    Instead of constantly complaining about (and reviling) Trump you should focus on the deliberate and malicious conspiracies of the Leftists and Socialists to utterly destroy America, by any and all means.

    Firstly look at the Sham Impeachment Conspiracy, then look at the Sham Mueller Witch Hunt Conspiracy, then look at the treasonous and seditious Conspiracy of the Deep State to bring about A COUP and remove a legitimate President from office. Looks like you have become a tool of these evildoers by attacking Trump and ignoring their shenanigans.

    What is presently happening in the USA is unprecedented. The Constitution and the liberties of Americans (and consequently other freedom-living people) are in great jeopardy, and Trump is the one standing against all this.
     
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    Bobby Jo Well-Known Member

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    Enoch111 said:
    Instead of constantly complaining about (and reviling) Trump you should focus on the deliberate and malicious conspiracies of the Leftists and Socialists to utterly destroy America, by any and all means.

    Firstly look at the Sham Impeachment Conspiracy, then look at the Sham Mueller Witch Hunt Conspiracy, then look at the treasonous and seditious Conspiracy of the Deep State to bring about A COUP and remove a legitimate President from office. Looks like you have become a tool of these evildoers by attacking Trump and ignoring their shenanigans.

    What is presently happening in the USA is unprecedented. The Constitution and the liberties of Americans (and consequently other freedom-living people) are in great jeopardy, and Trump is the one standing against all this.


    EXCELLENT Post, and a person could go on and on with all the TREASON committed against this President! Unfortunately there are too many who are set in their ways and cannot be moved, regardless of the evidence. As my favorite aunt used to tease: My mind's made up, don't confuse me with the facts. But so many others are not teasing, -- they REALLY DON'T WANT TO BE CONFUSED WITH THE FACTS.


    And take a look at what the "Deep State" is doing to Netanyahu in Israel ...
    Bobby Jo
     
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    It has been going on for years, openly evangelical Christians do not get offered posts in universities, are marked down in there course work, student organisations forced out of the universities.
    It happens also in the media if one doesn't openly subcribe to the current fad you are not promoted, given the challenging asignments etc.
     
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    You're right - I do tend to lean towards worrying. I've lived through some pretty hefty pain and I think that's made me gun shy. I think I have to get back to meditating on the Scriptures that tell us not to fear. I subscribe to prophecy alerts and what is going on has really stepped up to a breakneck pace - I just don't know how much further off the end can be.
     
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    They do appear chaotic - and I think God understands the sometimes natural fear that hits when we see the foundations beneath us crumble. I do think it's wise to meditate on Scriptures of peace, especially during these times of great change. I was reading that WW 3 is on the horizon - most likely a nuclear war. I read that Clinton signed some order re nuclear attacks that is basically suicide - so it looks as if there is some planned depopulation about to hit - we just don't know when.
     
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    Wow - I'm glad you're seeing it - many Christians don't. They're so enamored of Trump that they're not seeing what he's really doing. There is blindness there. No one gets into the position that he has unless they're handpicked. I do not trust the sycophant pastors around him - I think they're leading the flock over the cliff. They're worshipping Trump instead of God.
     
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    No I have looked at the facts: what I see is Trump throwing a few bones while using sleight of hand to fool people - it's right in your face yet you aren't seeing it. You don't want to see it.

    NO ONE gets into a high position unless hand-picked. It's a rigged game. If they had JFK assassinated using the CIA do you really believe they'd let Trump live???

    Watch the DRIVER shoot JFK in this video and ask yourself if they'd let Trump live:

     
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    My eyes are really opening to the ugly truths you spoke of - what this earth is really about and whose playground it is. It's very hard to see beauty beside ugliness.
     
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    No - he has kept the multitude of Christians silent by throwing them a few bones - even as he's kept to the dictates of his predecessors. Do you not care about the innocent Syrians he's bombing? Are you so ready to give him a pass just because it's not YOU the bombs are being dropped on?

    What the heck kind of "Christians" are we???
     
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    @Soverign Grace The first article you posted mentioned Carroll Quigley. As the article said, Quigley taught at Georgetown university, and yes, Bill Clinton named him as one of his favorite professors.
    But there's something else the article missed. Quigley wrote a book in which he openly admitted that behind the front of politics and constant confusion, there was indeeda small powerful group orchestrating the whole show. "Deep state" is merely another red herring, although it is real and as insidious as any secret society. Others blame Jews, others Freemasons, others communists. Quigley however admitted not just to the existence of this group, but to being a fully paid up card carrying life member. He was a Jesuit.
     
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    Enoch - I respect that you've studied your bible and I know that we see things differently. It could be that one day you'll have the eyes to see what I'm saying. I don't think I'm wrong on this. I've read of others who have also had the blinders removed about Trump.

    Ask yourself a question honestly. If the powers that be had JFK assassinated by a driver - a man in the employ of the highest reaches of government, who held a top secret clearance - then do you really believe that they'd let Trump live??

    Think of how many people in the highest reaches of our government had to be in on the assassination of this beloved President...right after he gave the speech on secret societies. Did you know that medical personnel were threatened to keep their mouths shut about JFK's injuries?

    A LOT of people in high places orchestrated the assassination of JFK and his brother.

    It's all sleight of hand. It's all mass psychology. These are very artful people, skilled in the art of war and subterfuge. We're out of our league - some of the people planning this are highly intelligent military strategists. They own the news stations and serve up a steady diet of propaganda. That many Christians believe it shows it's working. Joachim Hogapian is a West Point graduate who wrote an article titled "Psychopaths rule the world." I was reading a psychological profile of child molesters and it said that they possess an unusual cunning.

    Who else possesses an unusual cunning?

    Whose spirit inhabits such people?

    But the most dangerous of cunning individuals are those in positions of power.

    Are we missing some of the evil one's most artful ploys?

    Everything is rigged - everything. Someday I pray that you see this and that God opens your eyes to the mass delusion being perpetrated even as Agenda 21 is implemented at Trump's direction and a massive depopulation/ military false flag is planned - most likely a nuclear attack on the American people. Only the most ruthless, unprincipled individuals make it to top positions.

    I remember when a friend and I were young, we were in the parking lot of a mall and we saw a man breaking into cars and robbing them. In our naivete` we hurried up to the security guard standing not far away and breathlessly told him that a man was breaking into cars. God allowed me - even before I was regenerated - to witness cunning. To see it. I'll never forget the look of evil and cunning that crossed that guards face - it was a sinister smile of knowing - he was in on it. He didn't say a word but he passed on through a look to us to get out of there...and that's what we did.

    You would think that your skin would always crawl when you encounter evil but I've learned that sometimes it happens that way...other times it doesn't. Very charismatic people can fool others. They can have very attractive personas. There is a book I've never read called "The beautiful side of evil." The title says a lot.

    Revelation 12:9 - And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

    Matthew 24:24

    “For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.”
     
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    I recall that you had shared a link about the Presidents that the Jesuits had killed - including JFK. A lot of what you shared - including Professor Walter Veith's videos - opened my eyes to a lot of what is really going on. That article would be good reading for everyone.

    What does concern me is that another false flag is planned - possibly a nuclear attack. Why would so many wealthy people be building bunkers and why would so many Russiian bunkers be built? Why would Clinton sign a sucide pact for America basically blocking us from being able to defend ourselves in an attack? It's all being done right under our noses.

    It all points to something very sinister being planned - another false flag like 9-11 - which happened on occult days.

    Remember we're warned not to be stupid - we're warned to be as wise as the serpent, yet as harmless as the dove.
     
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    There is much yet to be fulfilled, Our Savior stated, When you see the Abomination of desolation acure, those in Jerusalem flee!
    In the book of the Maccabees a Greek General sets up a statue of Zeus on the Temple Mount, and declair's this is your god Israel!
    An Abominable act which defiled the Mount, also roasted a sow on the Alter which made is unusable to God as to make it desolate!
    This took place long before our Savior's birth, so when He state's this Prophecy by Danial it has to be a future event!
    I am not a pre-trib believer. when this happens we will be in the middle of the seven year's of the tribulation, what transpires in the 3 1/2 years prior to this is called Jacobs troubles, which I believe is when we should have a backbone of steel!
    No matter what happens to us as a whole or as individuals we must stay Faithful, we will be Hated as he was, yet He laid down His Life, Faithful to His Father!
    ALL People's Hearts will be tested, all the early believers were persecuted, and most suffered death, as we also will be! Our Savior said so!
     
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    i just spent the most amazing morning in my garden...well, not mine, i hate gardening lol, i'm a permaculture guy, but anyway did anyone see mercury pass across the sun?

    :D
     
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