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A well presented and finely documented apologetic and public relations exercise.

Truth is always a great tactic. As you see, the Church's outlook on other faiths is not what you were told it is.

Well done. When I was a Catholic and if someone had challenged me with the same questions, I would have been proud to have presented such a masterly response.

Unfortunately, many Catholics don't seem to know as much about their Church as they should. You were one of them.

Unfortunately 1600 years of history

In medieval times, Catholics, Protestants, and Eastern Orthodox Christians often behaved in ways that were not consistent with their faith in God. The Church, however, has committed to the doctrines I've just shown you. So have almost all Eastern Orthodox Christians, and most Protestants. People like Torquemada, Luther, Calvin, and the like, (who thought it was right to burn alive those who opposed them) are not found in many denominations, these days.

and dogmatic adherence to the teachings of such as Aquinas and Augustine

I'm not aware that either of these people advocated the kind of horrors we saw on all sides during the Reformation. Do you have a link?

Remember what the Church says about other faiths:
The Church recognizes that in many ways she is linked with those who, being baptized, are honored with the name of Christian, though they do not profess the faith in its entirety or do not preserve unity of communion with the successor of Peter. (14*) For there are many who honor Sacred Scripture, taking it as a norm of belief and a pattern of life, and who show a sincere zeal. They lovingly believe in God the Father Almighty and in Christ, the Son of God and Saviour. (15*) They are consecrated by baptism, in which they are united with Christ. They also recognize and accept other sacraments within their own Churches or ecclesiastical communities. Many of them rejoice in the episcopate, celebrate the Holy Eucharist and cultivate devotion toward the Virgin Mother of God.(16*) They also share with us in prayer and other spiritual benefits. Likewise we can say that in some real way they are joined with us in the Holy Spirit, for to them too He gives His gifts and graces whereby He is operative among them with His sanctifying power. Some indeed He has strengthened to the extent of the shedding of their blood. In all of Christ's disciples the Spirit arouses the desire to be peacefully united, in the manner determined by Christ, as one flock under one shepherd, and He prompts them to pursue this end. (17*) Mother Church never ceases to pray, hope and work that this may come about. She exhorts her children to purification and renewal so that the sign of Christ may shine more brightly over the face of the earth.


16. Finally, those who have not yet received the Gospel are related in various ways to the people of God.(18*) In the first place we must recall the people to whom the testament and the promises were given and from whom Christ was born according to the flesh.(125) On account of their fathers this people remains most dear to God, for God does not repent of the gifts He makes nor of the calls He issues.(126) But the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator. In the first place amongst these there are the Muslims, who, professing to hold the faith of Abraham, along with us adore the one and merciful God, who on the last day will judge mankind. Nor is God far distant from those who in shadows and images seek the unknown God, for it is He who gives to all men life and breath and all things,(127) and as Saviour wills that all men be saved.(128) Those also can attain to salvation who through no fault of their own do not know the Gospel of Christ or His Church, yet sincerely seek God and moved by grace strive by their deeds to do His will as it is known to them through the dictates of conscience.(19*) Nor does Divine Providence deny the helps necessary for salvation to those who, without blame on their part, have not yet arrived at an explicit knowledge of God and with His grace strive to live a good life. Whatever good or truth is found amongst them is looked upon by the Church as a preparation for the Gospel.(20*) She knows that it is given by Him who enlightens all men so that they may finally have life. But often men, deceived by the Evil One, have become vain in their reasonings and have exchanged the truth of God for a lie, serving the creature rather than the Creator.(129) Or some there are who, living and dying in this world without God, are exposed to final despair. Wherefore to promote the glory of God and procure the salvation of all of these, and mindful of the command of the Lord, "Preach the Gospel to every creature",(130) the Church fosters the missions with care and attention.
DOGMATIC CONSTITUTION ON THE CHURCH
LUMEN GENTIUM
SOLEMNLY PROMULGATED BY HIS HOLINESS
POPE PAUL VI
ON NOVEMBER 21, 1964
 

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He's a Jesuit. He is not about pastoring his flock. He is about what all Jesuits are sworn to do and have been attempting since their founding in the 16th century. Overthrow protestantism and establish papal hegemony on a global scale. That is Francis's goal, and he's doing a very good job if one is willing to look a little beyond the headlines and read the fine print.
Pope Francis is doing a great job in destroying the RCC, boy if ever there was a worldly Freemason it's him.

Pope Francis does not bother to explain himself to anyone in depth as to subjects he has made changes to, even the highest ranks of the RCC say this man hides from explaining himself in detail, so they do not know what he is truly on about on issues but all the Popes before him did explain in detail, so that everyone was on the same page. so they do not understand his decrees truly at all, as such things are devoid of foundations. now why is that, well 1 he is playing some game or 2 he is undermining the Church.

Pope Francis is loved by the Media and they call him the Peoples Pope, All the other Popes were attacked by the media full on 24/7 the only thing that Pope Francis is doing is leading the worldly and there are many of them in the RCC as they are mainly only religious followers who are not born again.
I come across many worldly Prots that like Pope Francis as well, they come up to me saying such nonsense and I say, you have to be joking and no they are not.
Pope Francis has major problem with even saying the words Jesus Christ, the Satanist says only god all the time and only Jesus Christ if such can not be avoided, so as not to offend the Political Correct crowed, not to mention that the total fool claims that Islam is worshiping the same god as he himself, well I am sure of that fact but as sure as hell true Christians do not serve such a god.
Islam is a abomination to God ! because it's a worldly religion of mans works and the fact is that Islam does not know God in fact because the fact is that if one does not know the Son then you can not know the Father, so bingo ! Pope Francis is condemned for peddling total blasphemy.

Jesus pointed out what was wrong with the Jews because they were out of line with God in fact, now if one claiming to be the Pope does not the will of Jesus Christ or does not speak only the truth as to Christ Jesus, then such is a Satanist in fact.
 

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No one should be afraid that God has allowed there to be different religions in the world, Pope Francis said.

"But we should be frightened if we are not doing the work of fraternity, of walking together in life" as brothers and sisters of one human family, he said.

As is customary, at his general audience April 3, the first after his March 30-31 trip to Morocco, Pope Francis reviewed his visit.

"People might ask themselves, 'Why is it the pope visits Muslims and not just Catholics?'" the pope said.

Catholics and Muslims are both "descendants of the same father, Abraham," he said, and the trip was another step on a journey of "dialogue and encounter with (our) Muslim brothers and sisters."

The pope said he wanted to follow in the footsteps of two great saints: St. Francis of Assisi, who brought a "message of peace and fraternity" to Sultan al-Malik al-Kami 800 years ago, and St. John Paul II, who visited Morocco in 1985.

Pope Francis said people also may wonder why God allows there to be so many different religions in the world.

Some theologians say it is part of God's "permissive will," allowing "this reality of many religions. Some emerge from the culture, but they always look toward heaven and God," the pope said.

"What God wants is fraternity among us," he said, which is why "we must not be frightened by difference. God has allowed this." But it is right to be worried when people are not working toward a more fraternal world, he added.

The pope's comment about God's "voluntas permissiva" or "permissive will" clarified a controversy that erupted during the pope's trip in February to Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates.
Pope Francis: Don’t be afraid that God has allowed different religions in the world
Oh boy ! spoken like a true Freemason ! Fraternity ?

So God wants people to be mislead by evil religions then.

And then God said Fraternity !

Brotherhood was alive and well with the Jews before Jesus came as well but that's not what Jesus was all about.

The brotherhood of man ? or the brotherhood of God !

Jesus said of them who were of their Father of lies and was a murderer from the beginning and that's who all who are not born again are from in fact. Pope Francis has proven he is in bed with such vampires. No other Pope peddled such dribble.

Islam will not take on Christianity at all in reality, as it sees such as a weakness and they will only exploit such people who get into bed with them and then they will cut your throat. as we know about casting pearls to swine's in what they will do to you.
Pope Francis never pulled such people up on their true colours, such a people will wipe the floor with such people as that and play such a one like a instrument to their own tune. so one should always point a dog out for what it is right from the beginning or you will end up with flees.

Any person can come to Chris Jesus, but a religion ? to turn :rolleyes:.
 

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Oh boy ! spoken like a true Freemason ! Fraternity ?

I'm thinking you've wandered off on your own, now.

So God wants people to be mislead by evil religions then.

Protestantism, Judaism, Islam, are not evil.

And then God said Fraternity !

'But he, desiring to justify himself, asked Jesus, "Who is my neighbor?"...' Read and learn.
 

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Are Protestants "saved? "
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Protestant/Catholic/Jew/Messanaic Jews, Muslims...or whatever "word" an individual wishes to call himself...are not words Jesus Taught...

Jesus certainly came TO Divide men.

Luke 12:
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51] Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:

John 7
[43] So there was a division among the people because of him.


The DIVISION is those IN CHRIST , FROM those NOT, in Christ.

(the division is not about Titles men make- up for dividing religious denominations...but Lands squarely on an "Individual's" Choice, to Become MADE, Heartfully "IN CHRIST"...
Or not.)

Are Protestants "Saved"?
Some are, some are not, just as any individual associated with "any" religious organization.

Glory to God,
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Some are, some are not, just as any individual associated with "any" religious organization.

Precisely. It's not who belongs to our club; not everyone who cries "Lord, Lord" to Jesus is saved, but those who do the will of the father.

And it doesn't matter what their theology might be. Theology won't save; a loving heart will.
 

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Pope Francis has major problem with even saying the words Jesus Christ,

“Forced like Jesus Christ to flee” is the theme that Pope Francis chose for the 106th edition of the day this year, which will be marked on Sunday, 27 September, according to a statement released on Friday by the Holy See Press Office.
“Forced like Jesus Christ to flee” – theme of World Day of Migrants and Refugees 2020 - Vatican News

Vatican City, Feb 2, 2020 / 06:20 am (CNA) – Pope Francis spoke Sunday about the need for Catholics to be active in going out to announce the faith of Jesus Christ to the world.


“The world needs Christians who let themselves be moved, who never tire of walking the streets of life, to bring everyone the consoling word of Jesus,” he said Feb. 2 in his Angelus address.
Pope Francis: The world needs Catholics who go out, proclaim Jesus | OC Catholic


Vatican City, Jan 19, 2020 / 06:26 am (CNA) – Meditating on the Gospel and on Christ’s holy face is a good way to know Jesus better, especially as the Lamb of God who sacrificed himself for the sins of the world, Pope Francis said Sunday.

Reflecting on John the Baptist’s testimony in the Gospel of John is an invitation “to start afresh on our journey of faith: to start afresh from Jesus Christ, the Lamb full of mercy that the Father has given for us,” he said Jan. 19.
Vatican City, Jan 19, 2020 / 06:26 am (CNA) – Meditating on the Gospel and on Christ’s holy face is a good way to know Jesus better, especially as the Lamb of God who sacrificed himself for the sins of the world, Pope Francis said Sunday.
Pope Francis: To know Christ better, contemplate his 'holy face' | OC Catholic


VATICAN CITY—On Sunday Pope Francis said that with a growing sense of emptiness and insecurity gripping the world, Jesus Christ is needed more than ever before, since he alone knows how to answer humanity’s deepest questions.

“The world needs Christ more than ever, needs his salvation and his merciful love,” the Pope said June 19.

“Many people sense a void around and inside of them. Perhaps some of us too,” he said, noting that others “live in restlessness and insecurity because of precariousness and conflict.”

Each person needs to have “adequate responses” to their deepest existential questions, he said, explaining that since “Jesus knows the heart of man like no other,” he is able to heal and to give life and consolation to humanity.
The world needs Christ more than ever, Pope Francis says


“The world needs Christians who let themselves be moved, who never tire of walking the streets of life, to bring everyone the consoling word of Jesus,”...

“Every baptized person has received the vocation to proclaim,” he added “– to proclaim something, to proclaim Jesus – the vocation to the evangelizing mission: to proclaim Jesus!”
Pope Francis: The world needs Catholics who go out, proclaim Jesus

VATICAN CITY — On the Solemnity of Christ the King, during the canonization Mass of six new saints, Pope Francis said that Jesus Christ’s kingdom comes through his works of mercy — works that Christians must imitate with tenderness.

“In the twilight of life, we will be judged on our love for, closeness to and tenderness towards our brothers and sisters,” the Pope said Sunday to myriad people in St. Peter’s Square. “If we truly love them, we will be willing to share with them what is most precious to us, Jesus himself and his Gospel.”

“Jesus is not a King according to earthly ways,” the Holy Father said. Rather, “his reign is not to command, but to obey the Father, to give himself over to the Father, so that his plan of love and salvation may be brought to fulfillment.”

Salvation does not begin with confessing Christ’s sovereignty, the Pope said, but with “the imitation of Jesus’ works of mercy through which he brought about his kingdom.” In so doing, one opens “his heart to God’s charity.”
Pope Francis on Christ the King: Be Imitators of Jesus’ Works of Mercy

Pope Francis himself takes the gospel to heart, especially its call to live as Jesus did and reach out to the poor. Over and over he gives witness to this by living simply, embracing the sick, humbly washing feet, blessing modern-day “lepers,” and ceaselessly preaching the gospel. He lives what he preaches, and he longs to put a fire under the rest of us!

In this booklet, readers are invited to spend 30 days with the words of Pope Francis as he focuses on Jesus Christ. May his words inspire everyone to embrace the gospel message more joyfully and to live it more fully.

Pope Francis on Christ the King: Be Imitators of Jesus’ Works of Mercy




 

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“Forced like Jesus Christ to flee” is the theme that Pope Francis chose for the 106th edition of the day this year, which will be marked on Sunday, 27 September, according to a statement released on Friday by the Holy See Press Office.
“Forced like Jesus Christ to flee” – theme of World Day of Migrants and Refugees 2020 - Vatican News

Vatican City, Feb 2, 2020 / 06:20 am (CNA) – Pope Francis spoke Sunday about the need for Catholics to be active in going out to announce the faith of Jesus Christ to the world.


“The world needs Christians who let themselves be moved, who never tire of walking the streets of life, to bring everyone the consoling word of Jesus,” he said Feb. 2 in his Angelus address.
Pope Francis: The world needs Catholics who go out, proclaim Jesus | OC Catholic


Vatican City, Jan 19, 2020 / 06:26 am (CNA) – Meditating on the Gospel and on Christ’s holy face is a good way to know Jesus better, especially as the Lamb of God who sacrificed himself for the sins of the world, Pope Francis said Sunday.

Reflecting on John the Baptist’s testimony in the Gospel of John is an invitation “to start afresh on our journey of faith: to start afresh from Jesus Christ, the Lamb full of mercy that the Father has given for us,” he said Jan. 19.
Vatican City, Jan 19, 2020 / 06:26 am (CNA) – Meditating on the Gospel and on Christ’s holy face is a good way to know Jesus better, especially as the Lamb of God who sacrificed himself for the sins of the world, Pope Francis said Sunday.
Pope Francis: To know Christ better, contemplate his 'holy face' | OC Catholic



VATICAN CITY—On Sunday Pope Francis said that with a growing sense of emptiness and insecurity gripping the world, Jesus Christ is needed more than ever before, since he alone knows how to answer humanity’s deepest questions.

“The world needs Christ more than ever, needs his salvation and his merciful love,” the Pope said June 19.

“Many people sense a void around and inside of them. Perhaps some of us too,” he said, noting that others “live in restlessness and insecurity because of precariousness and conflict.”

Each person needs to have “adequate responses” to their deepest existential questions, he said, explaining that since “Jesus knows the heart of man like no other,” he is able to heal and to give life and consolation to humanity.
The world needs Christ more than ever, Pope Francis says



“The world needs Christians who let themselves be moved, who never tire of walking the streets of life, to bring everyone the consoling word of Jesus,”...

“Every baptized person has received the vocation to proclaim,” he added “– to proclaim something, to proclaim Jesus – the vocation to the evangelizing mission: to proclaim Jesus!”
Pope Francis: The world needs Catholics who go out, proclaim Jesus


VATICAN CITY — On the Solemnity of Christ the King, during the canonization Mass of six new saints, Pope Francis said that Jesus Christ’s kingdom comes through his works of mercy — works that Christians must imitate with tenderness.

“In the twilight of life, we will be judged on our love for, closeness to and tenderness towards our brothers and sisters,” the Pope said Sunday to myriad people in St. Peter’s Square. “If we truly love them, we will be willing to share with them what is most precious to us, Jesus himself and his Gospel.”

“Jesus is not a King according to earthly ways,” the Holy Father said. Rather, “his reign is not to command, but to obey the Father, to give himself over to the Father, so that his plan of love and salvation may be brought to fulfillment.”

Salvation does not begin with confessing Christ’s sovereignty, the Pope said, but with “the imitation of Jesus’ works of mercy through which he brought about his kingdom.” In so doing, one opens “his heart to God’s charity.”
Pope Francis on Christ the King: Be Imitators of Jesus’ Works of Mercy


Pope Francis himself takes the gospel to heart, especially its call to live as Jesus did and reach out to the poor. Over and over he gives witness to this by living simply, embracing the sick, humbly washing feet, blessing modern-day “lepers,” and ceaselessly preaching the gospel. He lives what he preaches, and he longs to put a fire under the rest of us!

In this booklet, readers are invited to spend 30 days with the words of Pope Francis as he focuses on Jesus Christ. May his words inspire everyone to embrace the gospel message more joyfully and to live it more fully.
Pope Francis on Christ the King: Be Imitators of Jesus’ Works of Mercy




Satan comes as an Angle of light.
His works don't cut it because they are Mans works. truly devoid of God.
Sure many are mislead to the cunning of such a serpent. it all sounds ok to people who don't know just how cunning the Serpent works, such is with smoke and mirrors adding to delusions.
 

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I'm thinking you've wandered off on your own, now.



Protestantism, Judaism, Islam, are not evil.



'But he, desiring to justify himself, asked Jesus, "Who is my neighbor?"...' Read and learn.

Protestantism is devoid of much of the Truth as are the majority of Roman Catholics that are lead astray by Satan as well, don't be surprised about such in this world bro.

Judaism is totally lost, it's a works based religion, they are worldly people devoid of Christ Jesus, if you were born again you would know that because such sticks out like dogs balls, no one could be so stupid to have faith in such a people who reject Jesus Christ.

Islam ? is not evil ! oh boy ! you are truly lost. they make claims about a Jesus ? but fact is this is not our Lord and Saviour in fact.
The Fact is that Islam rejects Jesus Christ and they have a worldly thug that they idolise, that is a Satanist and it's a worldly man made religion that does not bring anyone to Jesus Christ at all, because they truly reject Him.

I have worked and talked to many a Islamic person and they are all worldly dupes. good people in a worldly way some are just like their are Jews as such and any atheist and many Christians are all at the same boat, like in a poisoned well drinking worldly gibberish and totally Lost as to Jesus Christ. for they are not born again of the Holy Spirit, there is a great void between such and the Holy Spirit in fact.

The Freemasons work to bind all the religions together in fact, it's a dogs breakfast of worldly dupes and what the top of such describe as useful idiots.
Freemasonry is Satanic, it rejects Jesus Christ in fact and anyone who try's to unite all the worlds religions together under the name of what they claim to be Humanity, is kidding themselves because what you get out of such as that is only bastardised and totally devoid of the Holy Spirit in fact. such morons claim to put people above others with secrets one must jump through like a dog jumps through a hoop for it's master, Jesus does not make one jump through hoops to put one above others and has no secrets at all.

True Christianity has no secrets and it exposes all to the light. Pope Francis does not expose evil. People like him swim in it.
 
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Yehren muses:
I'm thinking you've wandered off on your own, now.

(stuff about satanic freemasonry or masonic satan freedom or something)

Yep. Don't mind us. Carry on.
 

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this pretty much says it all, run run like your life is dependent on it from this thinking, because it is (your life is dependent on you running)

I'll go with what Jesus says, instead.

Luke 10:36 “Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?”

37 The expert in the law replied, “The one who had mercy on him.”

Jesus told him, “Go and do likewise.”

Better to be a Samaritan heretic who does the will of the Father, than to be a religiously-correct Levite who does not. He's talking to you here. Go and do likewise.


Your theology will not save you. The Samaritan is with God now, as are many Protestants, Jews, and Muslims, (and yes, Catholics) who didn't get their theology exactly right, but kept the two great commandments to the best of their ability.

There's no secret handshake, there's no magical formula to save you. It's just "do the will of the Father." Love God, love your fellow man. It's just that simple, hard as it is for stubborn men to accept.
 

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I'll go with what Jesus says, instead.

Luke 10:36 “Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?”

37 The expert in the law replied, “The one who had mercy on him.”

Jesus told him, “Go and do likewise.”

Better to be a Samaritan heretic who does the will of the Father, than to be a religiously-correct Levite who does not. He's talking to you here. Go and do likewise.


Your theology will not save you. The Samaritan is with God now, as are many Protestants, Jews, and Muslims, (and yes, Catholics) who didn't get their theology exactly right, but kept the two great commandments to the best of their ability.

There's no secret handshake, there's no magical formula to save you. It's just "do the will of the Father." Love God, love your fellow man. It's just that simple, hard as it is for stubborn men to accept.

Islam is evil

Judaism is evil

Whether you think so or not, is not applicable

Yes, I am supposed to love even my enemy, But it does not mean My enemy is not evil and will pay for their sins.
 

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Islam is evil

Judaism is evil

Whether you think so or not, is not applicable

What Jesus said about it, is applicable. You find it offensive, so you discount what He said about it.

Yes, I am supposed to love even my enemy,

Luke 10:36 “Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?”

37 The expert in the law replied, “The one who had mercy on him.”

Jesus told him, “Go and do likewise.”


If Jesus told His people to emulate a hated heretic who had love for his fellow man, rather than a Levite who did not, that's as blunt a directive as you can get. I realize that you don't believe it; but that doesn't change a thing.
 

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Yehren muses:
I'm thinking you've wandered off on your own, now.

(stuff about satanic freemasonry or masonic satan freedom or something)

Yep. Don't mind us. Carry on.
Pope Francis is a Freemason in fact, you will know them by their works and it shows, that is what he is intent on peddling.

Not to mention that Pope Francis bowed down to Lord Rothschild as his personal Lord who he has submitted to under, on TV and all. with Lord Rothschild sitting in a chair like the Pope does and has his underlings come up and kiss his ring, now any Catholic should know what that means when such a one does go up to the Pope sitting in the Chair and kisses that ring. do you know what that signifies bro ? it's submitting to him in fact ! and that is what Pope Francis did to Lord Rothschild, he went up and submitted himself and also the whole RCC to Lord Rothschild in fact.
So who is Pope Francis Lord ? well it's not Jesus Christ now is it. not to mention that most of the RC people must be to stupid to understand what is taking place.
Lord Rothschild and his Family is worth over $300 Trillion it is claimed and such is not advertised in the list of the worlds most wealthy people, the richest man in the world advertised is nothing to Rothschild, Hell the USA is in debt to $23 Trillion. and not to mention that it's the Rothschild's that created the State that is claimed to be called Israel ? :confused: I thought that the RCC always claimed to be Israel by inheritance and I remember Pope John Paul sticking to his guns on that for years with the media barking on and on week after week for years attacking him for this position making out that he was a fool and that he did not understand the position. he understood the position totally and so did any worthy RC who understood that such was a insult to the RCC that was making out that the RCC was nil avoid. and that this new State now becomes the seat of God under the power of the Talmud kike who is a whore, it's a man made State and such has nothing at all to do with Jesus Christ or God. it's Rothschild's baby it's their creation and they did this in killing 6 million real Jews who knew such a State was BS in fact and not to mention 60 million stupid goyim fools that were to stupid to understand that they were all duped. the people of the UK was sh1t on totally as was Germany as well, it was all part of the plan. who won the war ? Russia took over X Y and Z not to mention that the public must be to stupid to understand that the war was claimed to be because of Poland was invaded, well Poland was lost to a Dictator in fact in the end, so UK kicked off the war and 66 million dead and Poland was still lost, but hang on the so called State of Israel was created on the bones of all them people who were crushed and not to mention the hardship hurled at all. fact is that if it was not for Hitler who was 100% for the State of Israel remember, it would still not of happened without him and that's a fact. Hitler is related to Rothschild as well and Hitler was a Talmud Zionist Jew.
 

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What Jesus said about it, is applicable. You find it offensive, so you discount what He said about it.



Luke 10:36 “Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?”

37 The expert in the law replied, “The one who had mercy on him.”

Jesus told him, “Go and do likewise.”


If Jesus told His people to emulate a hated heretic who had love for his fellow man, rather than a Levite who did not, that's as blunt a directive as you can get. I realize that you don't believe it; but that doesn't change a thing.
One must have love for others but that love does not go so far as to love the devil within one, I may have trust in one but it's the Sin in one that I don't have faith in.

You know I was talking to a new age so called Christian rapture end of days simple minded idolising fool and he said to me, that he would take whatever he could get? that's abiding in Sin ? he was worldly ! he would take anything, he is out for such, just like any immoral atheist would do. he claims that he is saved regardless of what he does, he claims that he can kill who ever he wants even if it's just for kicks, because he claims that he is saved. what a worldly way of looking at such things ? But no one who has the Holy Spirit would do such in fact or entertain such depravity.
A guru claimed that he was saved by saying just repeat the words he gave him to say, and bingo ! he will be raptured up and he can save other people as well by getting another to repeat the same dribble, and bingo he has just saved another person and each one he is getting rewards for in Heaven he claims.
I thought that one had to know who Jesus Christ was by the power of the Holy Spirit and due to that one then had true in depth Spiritual position on the true love for others in fact and not love of a atheist dribble that is just lust or a worldly concept of delusions of blind want that's typical of such idiots.
 

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Luke 10:36 “Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?”

37 The expert in the law replied, “The
I thought that one had to know who Jesus Christ was by the power of the Holy Spirit and due to that one then had true in depth Spiritual position on the true love for others in fact and not love of a atheist dribble that is just lust or a worldly concept of delusions of blind want that's typical of such idiots.

one who had mercy on him.”

Jesus told him, “Go and do likewise.”


If Jesus told His people to emulate a hated heretic who had love for his fellow man, rather than a Levite who did not, that's as blunt a directive as you can get. I realize that you don't believe it; but that doesn't change a thing.

One must have love for others but that love does not go so far as to love the devil within one, I may have trust in one but it's the Sin in one that I don't have faith in.

You don't have to. If you love God and love your neighbor, you'll see past the sin and just love the person. That means you stop seeing people as evil, even it their theology is different than yours. And when you do, you're following Jesus again.

You're making it too hard for yourself.
 

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Pope Francis is a Freemason in fact, you will know them by their works and it shows, that is what he is intent on peddling.

Show us that. Sounds unlikely, seeing as the Church considers Freemasonry a different religion...

The Catholic Church first prohibited Catholics from membership in Masonic organizations and other secret societies in 1738. Since then, at least eleven popes have made pronouncements about the incompatibility of Catholic doctrines and Freemasonry.[1] From 1738 until 1983, Catholics who publicly associated with, or publicly supported, Masonic organizations were censured with automatic excommunication.[2] Since 1983, the prohibition on membership exists in a different form.[3][2][4] Although there was some confusion about membership following the 1965 Second Vatican Council (Vatican II), the Church continues to prohibit membership in Freemasonry because it concluded that Masonic principles and rituals are irreconcilable with Catholic doctrines. The current norm, the 1983 Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith's (CDF) Declaration on Masonic associations, states that "faithful who enroll in Masonic associations are in a state of grave sin and may not receive Holy Communion" and membership in Masonic associations is prohibited.[6] The most recent CDF document about the "incompatibility of Freemasonry with the Catholic faith" was issued in 1985.
Papal ban of Freemasonry - Wikipedia
 

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Luke 10:36 “Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?”

37 The expert in the law replied, “The


one who had mercy on him.”

Jesus told him, “Go and do likewise.”


If Jesus told His people to emulate a hated heretic who had love for his fellow man, rather than a Levite who did not, that's as blunt a directive as you can get. I realize that you don't believe it; but that doesn't change a thing.



You don't have to. If you love God and love your neighbor, you'll see past the sin and just love the person. That means you stop seeing people as evil, even it their theology is different than yours. And when you do, you're following Jesus again.

You're making it too hard for yourself.
Love the sinner it is but be mindful of the Sin, just remember who it is that you are dealing with when you are talking to a person who is not Born again of the Holy Spirit ? think about that as their is a great gulf between them and the Saved. remember the casting of pearls story ? oh yes it is surely true that such a one will only turn on a real Christian.
Mention the words Jesus Christ ! and watch them get angry ? oh yes what did Jesus say of them ? they hated him before you, so don't be surprised.
Oh yes I remember what such minded people did to Jesus, I would not recommend getting into bed with such at all, I know there works.

Am I making it to hard for myself, well no I have Jesus Christ by my side.
 

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Love the sinner it is but be mindful of the Sin, just remember who it is that you are dealing with when you are talking to a person who is not Born again of the Holy Spirit ? think about that as their is a great gulf between them and the Saved.

Not according to Jesus.

remember the casting of pearls story ? oh yes it is surely true that such a one will only turn on a real Christian.

Jesus held up a heretic as a role model for His followers, because the heretic had compassion for others. That's pretty obvious.

Mention the words Jesus Christ ! and watch them get angry ?

Luke 10:36 Which of these three, in thy opinion, was neighbour to him that fell among the robbers? [37] But he said: He that shewed mercy to him. And Jesus said to him: Go, and do thou in like manner.

The lawyer who tried to tempt Jesus, asking "who is my neighbor?" was one of the "holy people" and likely quite angered by Jesus' words.


oh yes what did Jesus say of them ?

"Go and do in like manner."

The "holy people" didn't want to accept that; they hated Him before you, so don't be surprised.

Am I making it to hard for myself, well no I have Jesus Christ by my side.

If you act as the heretic did, you do. Go and do in like manner. Theology won't save you. A loving heart for God and your neighbor will. And remember who your neighbor is, hear?