Are you guys happy with the recent Iran agreement ending the war?

[ProDeo]

Some of the previous times Trump has threatened and later called off strikes on Iran​

By Catherine Nicholls

US President Donald Trump walks to board Air Force One at Morristown Municipal Airport in Morristown, New Jersey, on Sunday.
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US President Donald Trump claimed yesterday that the Strait of Hormuz would be reopened “soon,” warning that if this did not happen, the US would hit Iran “really hard.”
The comments were the most recent threats from Trump since he announced on Saturday that he called off planned strikes on Iran.
His apparent reversal was not the first time during the conflict he’d threatened attacks before calling them off.
Here’s a look at some of the previous times this has happened:

• On March 21, Trump said the US would “hit and obliterate” Iranian power plants if Tehran did not reopen the Strait of Hormuz within 48 hours. On March 23, shortly before Trump’s deadline was set to expire, the president said the US and Iran had held “productive conversations” and that he would hold off on striking energy sites for five days.
• On April 7, Trump warned that “a whole civilization will die tonight” if Iran did not agree to end the war and reopen the Strait of Hormuz. Hours later, a two-week ceasefire between the countries was announced.
• On April 21, the day before the ceasefire was set to expire, Trump said he expected “to be bombing” if negotiators couldn’t reach a deal. Later that day, he extended the ceasefire.
• On May 17, Trump warned that “for Iran, the Clock is Ticking, and they better get moving, FAST, or there won’t be anything left of them.” The next day, he said that he would “hold off” on a plan to attack Iran, citing a request from Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates.
• On June 11, Trump said that the US military would be hitting Iran “VERY HARD TONIGHT,” adding that it would also “be taking Kharg Island, and other oil infrastructure points.” Hours later, Trump said he was canceling the strikes because “final points” of an agreement between the two sides had been approved.
• On August 1, Trump said the US was “locked and loaded and ready” to attack Iran “at levels of Military Terror, Strength, and Power not seen since World War II.” Despite this, he said, “I have agreed, for the future benefit of the WORLD and, likewise, the survival of a successful and prosperous Iran, to cancel the attack, subject to being able to rapidly make a DEAL.”

my point is that the President's strategy seems to be really unfocused and back and forth, as if he himself is NOT sure whether he truly wants peace or war.

I think Trump wants out, but he does not know how.

 

[NayborBear]

What gives me some pause about this current war is not just the lives lost on both sides, but the seeming lack of coherent strategy in the conflict. Either we give them the strait, or spend billions and billions bombing them but failing to break their resolve. Neither option is really good at this point.

UNLIKE many many people today who would wish and PRESS some form of "humanness" to this thing called "WAR!?"
War is NOT pretty! NOT clean!
We can and SHOULD blame technology for this form or "Pacifistic War!"

And? Unlike WWII when the Emperor of Japan had "sympathy or compassion" for the people/country he ruled over?
It took 2NUKES for him to relinquish his resolve!

Iran has NO such sympathy NOR compassion over the people or country wherein they rule!

THIS is where America stands with Iran!
It's gonna get MORE UGLIER FOLKS!

 

[Luther7]

Lol......And who is the judge on who is a "true born Christian"? YOU?

I'm not judging anyone. I am making the distinction between the nature of a born again Christian and those who use the name who are still unsaved and would think nothing of supporting a nation ethnically cleansing another nation of people. If you have the Spirit of God you will not partake in any appearance of evil. And lining yourself up with an anti Christ religion and ,/ or supporting it is not of God.

 

[Luther7]

I think Trump wants out, but he does not know how.

He needs to check with Netenyahu before he does anything.

 

[mailmandan]

Trump demands Iran compensate Americans and protesters after Tehran seeks war reparations

Trump demands Iran compensate Americans and protesters after Tehran seeks war reparations

President Donald Trump demands Iran compensate families of USS Cole victims and thousands killed by Iranian-backed attacks in future negotiations.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Luther7]

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Trump demands Iran compensate Americans and protesters after Tehran seeks war reparations

Trump demands Iran compensate Americans and protesters after Tehran seeks war reparations

President Donald Trump demands Iran compensate families of USS Cole victims and thousands killed by Iranian-backed attacks in future negotiations.

www.foxnews.com

I would say that Iran is in the driver's seat. As long as we fund/ support the anti- Christ Israeli government we will never be blessed.

 

[Boaz1982]

I would say that Iran is in the driver's seat. As long as we fund/ support the anti- Christ Israeli government we will never be blessed.

Well, in fact even the Israeli public do not necessarily trust him any longer. Maybe they see his policy on Iran too back and forth or too difficult to follow/understand somehow.

My stance on Iran war is:
1. either end the iranian government now, make it a democracy
OR
2. just end the war, b/c it is just bleeding us try with no clear objective/endgame any longer.

Record low number of Israelis doubt Donald Trump prioritizes their security | The Jerusalem Post

Notably, the findings showed that most Jewish Israelis believe the current strain in US-Israel relations is temporary, while Israeli Arabs are more divided on the issue.

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Poll: Most Israelis view US-Iran deal negatively, distrust Benjamin Netanyahu, Donald Trump | The Jerusalem Post

While 55% of Israelis expressed concern about the emerging US-Iran agreement, only 23% viewed it as beneficial for Israel.

www.jpost.com

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[NayborBear]

I guess(?) we're seeing how it's coming about that ALL nations WILL line up AGAINST Israel, eh?

 

[TLHKAJ]

 

[Marymog]

I'm not judging anyone. I am making the distinction between the nature of a born again Christian and those who use the name who are still unsaved and would think nothing of supporting a nation ethnically cleansing another nation of people. If you have the Spirit of God you will not partake in any appearance of evil. And lining yourself up with an anti Christ religion and ,/ or supporting it is not of God.

LOL...."I'm not judging anyone".....buuuuttt I am.......

 

[Dan Clarkston]

I think Trump wants out, but he does not know how.

Yeah, that's what happens when the US does not go all in during a war... as in boots on the ground.

If not being nuked someday by Iran was not important enough to put boots on the ground then we should have never started the war with Iran to begin with.

If we actually had the greatest military in the world then we'd invade and do regime change.

we're seeing how it's coming about that ALL nations WILL line up AGAINST Israel, eh?

yup

 

[Boaz1982]

Yeah, that's what happens when the US does not go all in during a war... as in boots on the ground.

If not being nuked someday by Iran was not important enough to put boots on the ground then we should have never started the war with Iran to begin with.

If we actually had the greatest military in the world then we'd invade and do regime change.




yup

But the US government isn't doing THAT either.

It's just attacking Iran but leaving most of its remaining leadership intact basically. And refusing to destroy their government.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

But the US government isn't doing THAT either.

I'm aware, which is why I posted what I posted.

 

[TLHKAJ]

The exit has officially begun. Numbers of military conscientious objectors has skyrocketed because what they see happening has challenged their moral beliefs ...citing being ordered to violate international law, seeing civilian death tolls surge bc of US intervention, and extended deployments with no clear mission or strategy.

 

[amigo de christo]

I always knew noahide was of the ecumeincal interfaith inclusivity .
They mean b usiness sister .

 

[Boaz1982]

The exit has officially begun. Numbers of military conscientious objectors has skyrocketed because what they see happening has challenged their moral beliefs ...citing being ordered to violate international law, seeing civilian death tolls surge bc of US intervention, and extended deployments with no clear mission or strategy.

Agree or disagree with the government's Iran war, though....it is true that our national debt is skyrocketing to a record high of $40 trillion dollars.

U.S. national debt rises to record high $40 trillion - Breitbart

Aug. 20 (UPI) -- The national debt hit $40 trillion Tuesday, a record high, signaling that the government is borrowing at a record pace. The debt has

www.breitbart.com

Even this conservative Hillsdale graduate Ingrid Jacques is unhappy about it now:

I wasn't expecting a miracle, but I had hoped President Donald Trump would make a dent in the national debt. He talked about it enough on the campaign trail. Now that the debt has hit $40 trillion, it's clear Republicans didn't just fail to fix the problem. They had full control of Washington and made it worse.

That number is hard to fathom, but it won't stay abstract for long. Interest on the debt alone now tops $1 trillion a year, more than we spend on anything except Social Security. It leads to higher inflation, higher interest rates, higher taxes, all of which slow the economy down. That's not sustainable.

Unfortunately, our politicians aren't willing to make the tough decisions necessary to put us on a safer fiscal course. They're more concerned with the next election than with tackling the debt.

US debt just hit $40 trillion. The GOP blew its shot to fix it. | Opinion

Here's the thing no one wants to talk about and fewer want to touch: Medicare and Social Security are the biggest drivers of the national debt.

www.yahoo.com

And to be fair the President did promise to eliminate the debt back in 2026, but....it has only doubled since.

10 Years Ago Today, Trump Promised To Eliminate the National Debt. Instead, It Has Doubled.

Trump's ridiculous, grandiose promise tells us something about the federal government's fiscal affairs and the president's approach to policy.

finance.yahoo.com

 

[Boaz1982]

I'm aware, which is why I posted what I posted.

If anything, he should back the pro-democracy pahlavis returning somehow, but for some reason our government isn't doing that either....which is confusing