Assumptions are certainly often shown to be wrong. Jesus' resurrection

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The "spiritual body" is also what Apostle Paul called the "image of the heavenly"...
That "image of the heavenly" is described in Philippians 3:21. "Who shall change our vile body that it may be fashioned like unto His glorious body..." That change will render our vile body forms so that they become fashioned exactly like Christ's resurrected body of flesh and bones which the disciples handled and saw. A "change" is NOT an exchange which would discard the original elements which composed the physical human body. The souls and physical bodies of the saints were purchased by Christ at great price and belong to Him ("we are not our own; we are bought with a price"). Christ does not intend to throw His possessions into the trash. That would be to spit on Christ's sacrifice.

This glorified resurrected body of Christ could also change the appearance of His flesh and bones form into "another form" (Mark 16:12), as well as becoming invisible at will (as in Christ vanishing out of sight). In the bodily resurrection for the saints, we too will have the same capabilities. The "change" of the dead bodies of the saints coming out of the ground is not some kind of Jewish imagination. It is straight out of the scriptures - both Old Testament and New Testament.

And it is the Full Preterist position that pushes the idea of the physical dead bodies of the saints being discarded. Why would you want to unite yourself with the Full Preterists on this point?
 

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That "image of the heavenly" is described in Philippians 3:21.

No, no such "image of the heavenly" phrase written there in Philippians 3:21, even though Paul was pointing to the "spiritual body" of 1 Cor.15 there also.

My post #61 already revealed the 1 Corinthians 15 Scripture about Paul's "image of the heavenly" idea pointing to the "spiritual body", i.e., the resurrection body. So you just trying to deny Paul's evidence there reveals your FALSE AGENDA...

1 Cor 15:48-50
48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.

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And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

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Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
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50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
You are misunderstanding what Paul meant by "flesh and blood" in this verse. Paul's greatest fight during His ministry was against the ethnic Israelites who thought that their natural bloodline of ethnic descent from Abraham was what entitled them to be sons of God. Those who were "born after the flesh" as national Israelites persecuted those who were "born of the Spirit" as the true sons of God. These were the ones "which were born not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God".

Paul was not saying that a human body with flesh and bones could not enter heaven, because Christ had those Himself as He ascended in that incorruptible, glorified body that "passed into the heavens". He still retains today that same glorified body of flesh and bones as our human / divine intercessor representative before God. The Full Preterists deny this fact. If you also deny it, you are in their camp on this point.
 
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