Bible Character?

[Rockerduck]

Still, I want to hear Judas’s side of the story.

I doubt he knows anything, just like you don't know why you were born. I also doubt that anyone showed him the Psalm about him, that he was prophesied to fulfill.

 

[Jay Ross]

Biblical character depends on where we plant our feet and who owns that place.

 

[quietthinker]

Judas Iscariot. I wanna know what was REALLY going on in his head.

It appears to me that Judas' interest in self interest overtook interest in Jesus' reality. It distorted his view.

 

[Adventageous]

If you could sit down for coffee with one Bible character (not Jesus!), who would you choose and why?

I think there are many characters I would love to sit and have a coffee with but I think I would choose - Joshua because I would love to know more about how he managed to stay obedient even in the hardest times and difficult decisions.

While I do not drink coffee, and am forbidden to do so by scriptural mandate (caffeine is a mind altering substance, and was introduced by the Muslims to Europe), I could have a replacement drink, pomegranite juice, or grape juice, and have a sit down with Adam, the first of mankind, and learn from my great, great, great, great, great ... great grandfather of mankind, of what it was like before sin, before the fall, and what it was like to learn from the Creator directly, and being able to meet with Holy Angels in converse from other worlds, and to know the spiritual lessons that the creation taught about the Creator, and so many other wonderful things. Since I am not allowed in this scenario to speak with Jesus, I would speak to one who was most like Him, made in His image and likeness, at the beginning.

 

[Adventageous]

The angels from the age of the Great Flood were commanded by God to be bound because they had taken human women as their wives.

That is an incorrect understanding of Gen. 6-9, and the previous context. Gen. 1-5. It is an amalgamation of so-called '1st Enoch' (irrespective of 2nd and 3rd 'Enoch') which is a pseudepigraphic apocryphal ecclectic occultic gnostic heretical source. The focus of Gen. 6-9 is upon earthly mankind (and two groups therein, the "sons of God", or those who had called upon the name of the LORD to be renewed in the image of God; since the days of Seth; Gen. 4:26; and those who never did, but like as Cain & his wife (like-minded sister) went out from the presence of the LORD; Gen. 4:16, and remained in the image of fallen mankind; or "daughters of men"; Gen. 5:3-4, and even after the example of wicked Lamech; Gen. 4:19-24, in marrying plural wives, and in violence and murder), not heavenly-originated beings. The context of Gen. 6-9 was about the overspreading apostasy (H5303; haN'filiym, "הנפלים", while also meaning "giants", from H5307; naphal, "נָפַל" means also to fall away from) on a global scale, that continued to occur through scripture, that God warned of:

The problem of intermixing and intermarrying (amongst the ‘people, children and sons of God’ (of this earth) with the ‘daughters of men, gentiles, land, nations, world’, &c.), having multiple wives leading into overt apostasy against God Almighty and directly into the bondage of sin, adultery, fornication and idolatry is given all throughout scripture (KJB) from beginning to end:

See Lamech (Cain’s great, great, great grandson, the first recorded polygamist):

Genesis 4:19 KJB - And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other Zillah.​

See the “sons of God” apostasy with “the daughters of men”:

Genesis 6:1 KJB - And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,​

Genesis 6:2 KJB - That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.​

See Abraham and Isaac in Gen. 24:3,37 KJB.
See Esau and Jacob in Gen. 26:34,35, 28:8,9 (comparing to Jacob in Gen. 27:46, 28:1,6], 36:2 KJB.
See Isaac and Jacob in Gen. 27:46, 28:1,6 KJB.
See Jacob and Hamor in Gen. 34:9,14 KJB.
See Moses in Exo. 34:15,16 KJB.
See in Deu. 17:17 KJB.
See Balaam in Num. 25:1,2,3 KJB.
See in Jdg. 3:5,6,7 KJB.
See Samson the Judge in Jdg. 14:1,2,3 KJB.
See the Chronicles in 1 Chr. 5:24,25 KJB.
See Ezra in Ezr. 9:1,2,11,12 KJB.
See Nehemiah in Neh. 9:2, 10:28,29,30, 13:23,25,26,27 KJB.
See Solomon in 1 Kin. 11:1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 KJB.

Many “sons of God” “looked” / “saw” (“saw the daughters of men that they were fair” and “took them wives of all which they chose”; Gen. 6:2 KJB) and “beheld” (just as did Samson, “she pleaseth me well”, or King David who went after Bathsheba, the wife of Uriah the Hittite (his friend), and through covetousness had Uriah killed in action “from the roof he saw a woman washing herself; and the woman was very beautiful to look upon” (2 Sam. 11:2, 12:9 KJB), just as Solomon who “multiplied wives” and “loved many strange women” and also of all Israel who took of the “daughters of the land”, and then “lusted and coveted” and so were ensnared being ‘vex(ed), beguiled, to commit trespass against the LORD, to commit fornication, eat things sacrificed unto Idols, and worshipped idols’ (Num. 25:18, 31:16; Rev. 2:14 KJB):

Jude 1:11 KJB - Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.​

See also the words of Jesus, as it was in the days of Noah and Lot (Job 21:7,14, 22:15,16,17; Mat. 24:37,38; Luk. 17:26,27; 2 Pet. 2:5, 3:3,6 KJB).

In the greater overall picture, there is a like message and call for the “people of God” also today to “come out” of spiritual “Babylon” (that “great whore” – Papacy, and all Christian Apostasy, Rev. 17:1, 19:2 KJB), just as God had done with physical natural Babylon; Jer. 51:9; Isa. 52:11 KJB). See also 2 Cor. 6:14,15,16,17,18; Rev. 18:4 KJB.

For “giants” of men, after the flood, see (Gen. 10:8,9, 14:5, 15:20; Num. 13:32,33; Deu. 2:11,20,21, 3:11,13, 9:2; Jos. 12:4, 13:12, 15:8, 17:15, 18:16; 2 Sam. 5:18,22, 21:16,18,19,20,22; 1 Chr. 11:23, 14:9, 20:4,5,6; Isa. 17:5, 45:14 KJB).

For “men of reknown” see (Num. 1:16, 16:2, 26:9; 1 Chr. 5:24, 12:30 KJB).

For “sons”, “children”, “father” of the good, see (Gen. 6:2,4; Deu. 14:1; 2 Sam. 7:14; Isa. 8:18, 9:6, 63:16, 64:8; Hos. 1:10; Mat. 5:9,45 6:9; Luk. 3:38, 6:35,36, 11:2, 20:26; Jhn. 1:12, 11:52, 12:36; Rom. 1:7, 8:14,16,17,19,21, 9:8, 9:26 (citing Hos. 1:10); 1 Cor. 1:3; 2 Cor. 1:2, 6:18; Gal. 1:4, 3:26, 4:6,7; Eph. 5:1; Php. 1:2, 2:15, 4:20; Col. 1:2; 1 Thes. 1:1, 3:11,13; 2 Thes. 1:1,2, 2:16; Tit. 1:4; Php. 1:3; Heb. 2:10,13 (citing Isa. 8:18), 12:7,9; 1 Pet. 1:3; 1 Jhn. 1:3, 3:1,2, 5:2 KJB.

For “sons”, “children”, “father” of the evil, see (Gen. 3:15; Mat. 13:38; Jhn. 8:42,44; Act. 13:10; Rom. 6:16, 9:8; Eph. 2:2, 5:6; Col. 3:6; Heb. 12:8; 1 Pet. 3:19 (compare to Psa. 142:7; Isa. 42:6,7, 61:1; Luk. 4:18), 3:20; 1 Jhn. 3:8,10,12, 4:4,5,6,7,8 KJB.

I may discuss this more with you as you desire, and can demonstrate with specific examples in regards so-called '1st Enoch', and its errors, and contradictions with scripture, but elsehwere, as this thread is not really for this present discussion.

 

[Brakelite]

If you could sit down for coffee with one Bible character (not Jesus!), who would you choose and why?

That's an interesting question. In other words who would you seek out first in the kingdom to chat with? I'm torn between two.
Hezekiah always impressed me. As a12yo king he went against status quo, Swam against the current of popular thinking and he restored temple worship in the midst of apostasy.
Jehoshaphat's speech to Israel was one of the shortest yet best sermons in Scripture. 2 Chron.20:20. That counsel is worthy of remembering to this day in all our spiritual battles with powers beyond our strength.

 

[soberxp]

That is an incorrect understanding of Gen. 6-9, and the previous context. Gen. 1-5. It is an amalgamation of so-called '1st Enoch' (irrespective of 2nd and 3rd 'Enoch') which is a pseudepigraphic apocryphal ecclectic occultic gnostic heretical source. The focus of Gen. 6-9 is upon earthly mankind (and two groups therein, the "sons of God", or those who had called upon the name of the LORD to be renewed in the image of God; since the days of Seth; Gen. 4:26; and those who never did, but like as Cain & his wife (like-minded sister) went out from the presence of the LORD; Gen. 4:16, and remained in the image of fallen mankind; or "daughters of men"; Gen. 5:3-4, and even after the example of wicked Lamech; Gen. 4:19-24, in marrying plural wives, and in violence and murder), not heavenly-originated beings. The context of Gen. 6-9 was about the overspreading apostasy (H5303; haN'filiym, "הנפלים", while also meaning "giants", from H5307; naphal, "נָפַל" means also to fall away from) on a global scale, that continued to occur through scripture, that God warned of:

The problem of intermixing and intermarrying (amongst the ‘people, children and sons of God’ (of this earth) with the ‘daughters of men, gentiles, land, nations, world’, &c.), having multiple wives leading into overt apostasy against God Almighty and directly into the bondage of sin, adultery, fornication and idolatry is given all throughout scripture (KJB) from beginning to end:

See Lamech (Cain’s great, great, great grandson, the first recorded polygamist):

Genesis 4:19 KJB - And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other Zillah.​

See the “sons of God” apostasy with “the daughters of men”:

Genesis 6:1 KJB - And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,​

Genesis 6:2 KJB - That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.​

See Abraham and Isaac in Gen. 24:3,37 KJB.
See Esau and Jacob in Gen. 26:34,35, 28:8,9 (comparing to Jacob in Gen. 27:46, 28:1,6], 36:2 KJB.
See Isaac and Jacob in Gen. 27:46, 28:1,6 KJB.
See Jacob and Hamor in Gen. 34:9,14 KJB.
See Moses in Exo. 34:15,16 KJB.
See in Deu. 17:17 KJB.
See Balaam in Num. 25:1,2,3 KJB.
See in Jdg. 3:5,6,7 KJB.
See Samson the Judge in Jdg. 14:1,2,3 KJB.
See the Chronicles in 1 Chr. 5:24,25 KJB.
See Ezra in Ezr. 9:1,2,11,12 KJB.
See Nehemiah in Neh. 9:2, 10:28,29,30, 13:23,25,26,27 KJB.
See Solomon in 1 Kin. 11:1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 KJB.

Many “sons of God” “looked” / “saw” (“saw the daughters of men that they were fair” and “took them wives of all which they chose”; Gen. 6:2 KJB) and “beheld” (just as did Samson, “she pleaseth me well”, or King David who went after Bathsheba, the wife of Uriah the Hittite (his friend), and through covetousness had Uriah killed in action “from the roof he saw a woman washing herself; and the woman was very beautiful to look upon” (2 Sam. 11:2, 12:9 KJB), just as Solomon who “multiplied wives” and “loved many strange women” and also of all Israel who took of the “daughters of the land”, and then “lusted and coveted” and so were ensnared being ‘vex(ed), beguiled, to commit trespass against the LORD, to commit fornication, eat things sacrificed unto Idols, and worshipped idols’ (Num. 25:18, 31:16; Rev. 2:14 KJB):

Jude 1:11 KJB - Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.​

See also the words of Jesus, as it was in the days of Noah and Lot (Job 21:7,14, 22:15,16,17; Mat. 24:37,38; Luk. 17:26,27; 2 Pet. 2:5, 3:3,6 KJB).

In the greater overall picture, there is a like message and call for the “people of God” also today to “come out” of spiritual “Babylon” (that “great whore” – Papacy, and all Christian Apostasy, Rev. 17:1, 19:2 KJB), just as God had done with physical natural Babylon; Jer. 51:9; Isa. 52:11 KJB). See also 2 Cor. 6:14,15,16,17,18; Rev. 18:4 KJB.

For “giants” of men, after the flood, see (Gen. 10:8,9, 14:5, 15:20; Num. 13:32,33; Deu. 2:11,20,21, 3:11,13, 9:2; Jos. 12:4, 13:12, 15:8, 17:15, 18:16; 2 Sam. 5:18,22, 21:16,18,19,20,22; 1 Chr. 11:23, 14:9, 20:4,5,6; Isa. 17:5, 45:14 KJB).

For “men of reknown” see (Num. 1:16, 16:2, 26:9; 1 Chr. 5:24, 12:30 KJB).

For “sons”, “children”, “father” of the good, see (Gen. 6:2,4; Deu. 14:1; 2 Sam. 7:14; Isa. 8:18, 9:6, 63:16, 64:8; Hos. 1:10; Mat. 5:9,45 6:9; Luk. 3:38, 6:35,36, 11:2, 20:26; Jhn. 1:12, 11:52, 12:36; Rom. 1:7, 8:14,16,17,19,21, 9:8, 9:26 (citing Hos. 1:10); 1 Cor. 1:3; 2 Cor. 1:2, 6:18; Gal. 1:4, 3:26, 4:6,7; Eph. 5:1; Php. 1:2, 2:15, 4:20; Col. 1:2; 1 Thes. 1:1, 3:11,13; 2 Thes. 1:1,2, 2:16; Tit. 1:4; Php. 1:3; Heb. 2:10,13 (citing Isa. 8:18), 12:7,9; 1 Pet. 1:3; 1 Jhn. 1:3, 3:1,2, 5:2 KJB.

For “sons”, “children”, “father” of the evil, see (Gen. 3:15; Mat. 13:38; Jhn. 8:42,44; Act. 13:10; Rom. 6:16, 9:8; Eph. 2:2, 5:6; Col. 3:6; Heb. 12:8; 1 Pet. 3:19 (compare to Psa. 142:7; Isa. 42:6,7, 61:1; Luk. 4:18), 3:20; 1 Jhn. 3:8,10,12, 4:4,5,6,7,8 KJB.

I may discuss this more with you as you desire, and can demonstrate with specific examples in regards so-called '1st Enoch', and its errors, and contradictions with scripture, but elsehwere, as this thread is not really for this present discussion.

Who really knows? Because the first lie led to many things that were hard to tell apart as true or false.


But the only thing I'm certain of is that beautiful women were created by God, but women have become creations exploited by evil, and then people forgot that all of this originated from God and they turned away from God. As a result, nothing matters anymore.

Without God, people have nothing.

Evil Eve ill

We need doctor.....