BreadOfLife ~ UNPROVEN CLAIMS..

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Teaching and Indoctrination rival one another.

Both are the platform of the catholic church.
Historically instituted;
...the Appointed pope
...then Indoctrinate, he can not lie or be wrong
...then Teach what he says
...ostracize resistors

BOL has self-appointed himself to be THEE forum "ostracizer" ... and hasn't figured out,
Non-Catholics are not scrambling to become a Catholic, nor do Non-catholics care that he, AS A catholic is anti-everything that is NOT catholic.

The more he falsely accuses, the less trustworthy he becomes.
The more he preaches unverifiable catholic doctrine, the more people REJECT catholic doctrine and the teacher.

Oddly he seems to enjoy the rejection as an excuse to use his "worn out" comical prefabricated list of accusations, VOID of verification.

To his credit, he is the Master of comedy of errors.


Glory to God,
Taken
The messiah of comical errors?
 

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BreadOfLife has been invited to come to this thread and POST quotes of other people that BOL claims the other people "HAVE SAID..."

Let us wait a reasonable amount of time and see if he can support his claims with quotes of those he Accuses.

Tick toc...

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BreadOfLife

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Typically, a FALSE doctrine (or assertion) is an ERROR. Now if ERRORs were LIES, then @BreadOfLife would be a liar because repentance doesn't mean we won't still sin. We're still human and we still make mistakes, exactly as your statement proves.

So don't expect others to be PERFECT until you're PERFECT, -- and NONE of us are there,
Bobby Jo
Apparently you haven't been reading the posts.

Not only did I NOT say that I am perfect - I said that we ALL stumble in sin. I never stated that repentance means that we won't still sin.
It is @Taken who is claiming to be without sin - not me. Pay attention to the conversation . . .
 

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LOL
Don't you know:
@BreadOfLife calls everyone a liar!
I had quite a discussion with him on these threads when I first joined here.
He'd call me a liar all the time...


He does this with those who do not agree with something he says.
To him disagreement is lying....

He happens to be a super intelligent Catholic, which is not easy to come by.
He knows the doctrine and he knows the history of the church.

I'm sorry he has the attitude he has, this must come from battling INCORRECT ASSUMPTIONS about Catholicism after years.

I must say that it IS very frustrating for persons outside the denomination to THINK they know more of it than someone IN that denomination that KNOWS it very well.

That still does not forgive the attitude, which I also wish would change.
I never called you a "liar" - not once. I've never called anybody a liar here.
For you to accuse me of that is - well, another lie.
 

BreadOfLife

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Your wrong again, well partially wrong. A man that says he doesn’t have sin make God a liar.
I didn't say that it made GOD a liar. The Scripture says that it makes the PERSON a liar.

Funny that on this thread which was created to disprove my reasons for accusing some of you of lying - that you have chosen to lie to make your point. Why would you say that I called GOD a "Liar"??
 

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It is @Taken who is claiming "to be without sin" -

THAT IS A FRAUDULENT CLAIM BOL...

WHEN are you going to back up your FALSE CLAIM? Oh, right...you Can't because it IS FALSE...

Your self appointment of teacher and educator has been replaced with something more Befitting....False Accuser...

Glory to God,
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According to BoL ...a person who lies is not a liar... I would imagine that if he claimed someone on this forum had recently deliberately and with malice and intent killed their mother, he would deny accusing them of being a murderer.
 

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Sorry, but I have to disagree with you. BoL knows only that which he wants to know... That which remains, he denies.
If you're talking about man-made SDA inventions like "Soul Sleep" or the false prophecies spewn from the lips of your founders - yup, I deny those things . . .
 

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I never called you a "liar" - not once. I've never called anybody a liar here.
For you to accuse me of that is - well, another lie.


LOL ~ By Definition...
claiming one lies is claiming they are a liar.

Catholic education..if you say someone lies, you are not calling them a Liar...LOL

False ` by Definition...
not according to TRUTH or FACT.

Fraud ` by Definition...
intentional deceit to cause perversion of the TRUTH.

You make False and Fraudulent claims...

:eek:

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Taken
 

BreadOfLife

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THAT IS A FRAUDULENT CLAIM BOL...

WHEN are you going to back up your FALSE CLAIM? Oh, right...you Can't because it IS FALSE...

Your self appointment of teacher and educator has been replaced with something more Befitting....False Accuser...

Glory to God,
Taken
No - it is what YOU have been dancing around.

Do you believe that when you come to Christ in faith and repentance, you are forgiven of ALL of your past sins?
Do YOU believe that you cannot sin anymore?? You have repeatedly stated this as a fact.
Therefore, you are claiming to be WITHOUT sin.

As I have stated before - 1 John 1:8 says that IF you claim this - then the truth is NOT in you.

Case closed - unless you want to change your story . . .
 

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According to BoL ...a person who lies is not a liar... I would imagine that if he claimed someone on this forum had recently deliberately and with malice and intent killed their mother, he would deny accusing them of being a murderer.

Who is one who LIES, and believes his own LIES, but one that has been given over to a Reprobate MIND?

God IS JUST...He gives to ALL what they DESIRE...Even a FRAUD, will get what he desires...

And a man IN Christ, WILL recognize the FRUIT of another IN Christ, as well as the FRUIT of a FRAUD.

Glory to God,
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LOL ~ By Definition...
claiming one lies is claiming they are a liar.

Catholic education..if you say someone lies, you are not calling them a Liar...LOL

False ` by Definition...
not according to TRUTH or FACT.

Fraud ` by Definition...
intentional deceit to cause perversion of the TRUTH.

You make False and Fraudulent claims...

:eek:

Glory to God,
Taken
And this is another LIE.
I have given you example after example as to why this is an idiotic assertion:

- If I tell my friend to lose weight for health reasons - I an not calling him a "fatso".
- If my wife makes a meal that I don't like - I'm not calling her a "bad cook".
- If my child gets an "F" in algebra and I acknowledge it - I am not calling them a "failure".

These are observations - just like the observations of the instances where YOU have lied.
Learn the differences . . .
 

BreadOfLife

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According to BoL ...a person who lies is not a liar... I would imagine that if he claimed someone on this forum had recently deliberately and with malice and intent killed their mother, he would deny accusing them of being a murderer.
And I'll tell YOU what I told your fellow anti-Catholic.
An observation about a lie is NOT the same as calling a person a "liar":

- If I tell my friend to lose weight for health reasons - I an not calling him a "fatso".
- If my wife makes a meal that I don't like - I'm not calling her a "bad cook".
- If my child gets an "F" in algebra and I acknowledge it - I am not calling them a "failure".

Seems like BOTH of you need further instruction in the English language . . .
 

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I never called you a "liar" - not once. I've never called anybody a liar here.
For you to accuse me of that is - well, another lie.
I told you this from the beginning BoL.
It's not good to call people names.
If you tell someone they're LYING...
it means they're a LIAR.

If I tell you that you STEAL...
It means you're a thief.

Now we could get into the discussion of:
Are you a thief because you steal...
or do you steal because you're a thief?

BUT, that is not the discussion here.
So, really, you should stop doing this.

I think people post things about the CC that they THINK is right,
NOT because they wish to lie.

I know catholics that think icorrectly of Protestantism,,,
I correct them too.

But they're not lying..they're just saying what they THINK is right.
 
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BreadOfLife

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BOL has proven over and over again that his understanding of what a liar is includes only people who disagree with him or the church he has over identified with. He couldn’t spot a liar if one lighted his pants on fire
Actually, Aspen - this is a LIE.

I ALWAYS qualify the fact that simply "disagreeing" does not make one dishonest or an anti-Catholic. I have ALWAYS stated that an anti-Catholic or dishonest person is one who LIES.

Spend less time violating God's commandment against bearing false witness - and you might understand the Gospel . . .
 

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Imagine if you will, waking up one day to realize that practically all of your life you have aligned yourself, possibly even worshiped Liars, murderers, blasphemous, child molesters, that would be pretty devastating
Every denomination has its problems.
Do you know how many persons have lost their faith due to the Word of Faith movement?
By being told that they can't be healed because they don't have the proper amount of faith? ETC.

Molestation of children is general to every denomination...there are statistics on this and I'm NOT going to look for them and post them -- it's called the SIN NATURE.

I hope you remember the witch burnings of the 16th century.
I hope you remember that some major figures in the reformed movement ALSO burned people alive.

I don't protect ANY church.
Millions died in Europe due to the reformation.

How about forgetting the past,
posting only correct doctrine of the denominations we REALLY know about...
and continuing on since Christianity is broken up enough due to the sins of man.

I'll say this: If it weren't for the Crusades, we'd all be speaking Arab right now.
 

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I told you this from the beginning BoL.
It's not good to call people names.
If you tell someone they're LYING...
it means they're a LIAR.

If I tell you that you STEAL...
It means you're a thief.

Now we could get into the discussion of:
Are you a thief because you steal...
or do you steal because you're a thief?

BUT, that is not the discussion here.
So, really, you should stop doing this.

I think people post things about the CC that they THINK is right,
NOT because they wish to lie.

I know catholics that think icorrectly of Protestantism,,,
I correct them too.

But they're not lying..they're just saying what they THINK is right.
RUBBISH.

I guess I'll have to repeat what I told your fellow accusers:
- If I tell my friend to lose weight for health reasons - I an not calling him a "fatso".
- If my wife makes a meal that I don't like - I'm not calling her a "bad cook".
- If my child gets an "F" in algebra and I acknowledge it - I am not calling them a "failure".

LEARN the difference . . .
 
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And I'll tell YOU what I told your fellow anti-Catholic.
An observation about a lie is NOT the same as calling a person a "liar":

- If I tell my friend to lose weight for health reasons - I an not calling him a "fatso".
- If my wife makes a meal that I don't like - I'm not calling her a "bad cook".
- If my child gets an "F" in algebra and I acknowledge it - I am not calling them a "failure".

Seems like BOTH of you need further instruction in the English language . . .
And because we don't agree with you on certain matters doesn't make us anti Catholics.
 
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BreadOfLife

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And because we don't agree with you on certain matters doesn't make us anti Catholics.
I simply going to repeat to you the words with which I chastised your fellow false- accuser @aspen:

I ALWAYS qualify the fact that simply "disagreeing" does not make one dishonest or an anti-Catholic.
I have ALWAYS stated that an anti-Catholic or dishonest person is one who LIES.

Spend less time violating God's commandment against bearing false witness - and you might understand the Gospel . . .