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  1. Taken

    Taken Well-Known Member

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    BreadOfLife...has CLAIMED, to have personally witnessed Taken LYING on this forum...

    BOL...PROVE YOUR CLAIM...

    QUOTE ANY of Taken's "SUPPOSED" LIES that you have CLAIMED BOL...

    Glory to God,
    Taken
     
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  2. Nancy

    Nancy Well-Known Member

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    I have NEVER seen that! I personally, do not question your integrity.
     
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    101G Well-Known Member

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    To taken, first, take no offense if someone falsly accuse you of something. let it go. just pray for them. as a christian if someone says something about you and you know it's in error, go to them in private, (personal notification). not out here on the public fourm. I know some has done this also, (you're better than that). but as a man of Faith, those of us who are the stronger in faith must bare with them who are of a weaker faith. not saying that you're right or wrong in what you're doing, but just consider our Lord and saviour, Jesus the christ. "Father forgive them, for they know not what they do". defending your honor, ok.

    the reason why I'm posting to you, because you're better than lower yourself to a personal debate in a open public setting.

    an elder long ago in the chuch I attended, she's dead now, but her advice rang true in me years later. she said, "Sometimes you have to give up the right for the wrong". it took me many years later to fully understand what she was saying. suffer for truth, God will repay, take no vengeance, for it's the Lord's to take.
    as a mature christian, walk in the Light. and if someone calls you a dog, you don't have to bark, because you and the Lord know that you're not a dog.

    I have been call a lot of thing, and yes, lied on, and had words put in my mouth. but don't lay in the mud with a pig, because you'll get dirty, let the pig stay dirity. as the apostle said, Ephesians 5:15 "See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise". and we know that you're wiser than this.

    we hope you recieved our message as a friend.... peace in Christ Jesus and Love.
     
  4. Taken

    Taken Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for your kind words.

    I am not going to BOL privately to ACCUSE him.
    I am not publically speaking for BOL.
    I am not publically calling BOL a LIAR for his beliefs.

    I am publically giving him opportunity to publically verify his public claims AGAINST me.

    God Bless,
    Taken
     
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    Taken Well-Known Member

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    Hi Nancy,
    Thank you for your kind words, and as I have said before on this forum, anything a person wonders about how I specifically conclude a point, I have no issue with telling them.

    God Bless,
    Taken
     
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  6. Nancy

    Nancy Well-Known Member

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    No, you tell it straight up!
     
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  7. Bobby Jo

    Bobby Jo Well-Known Member

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    We certainly have people in this Forum with incorrect doctrines, many of which are intentionally deceptive, and many lie. But a difference in doctrines is not necessarily a LIE. And if someone accuses someone with a different doctrine of LYING, they need to be held accountable for not only the TRUTH of a matter, but ALSO the intent, -- because we all make mistakes, but mistakes are NOT LIES. :)

    @Taken, I hope @BreadOfLife answers your post and is responsible to clear up any conflict, -- but it seems that most accusers are simply slanderers who assail, and then run and find an apron to hide behind. I hope this is not the case for @BreadOfLife.

    With Best Regards,
    Bobby Jo
     
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  8. aspen

    aspen “"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few

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    BOL has proven over and over again that his understanding of what a liar is includes only people who disagree with him or the church he has over identified with. He couldn’t spot a liar if his pants were on fire.
     
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    If he does, it will just turn into a nasty, unproductive thread. As far as BOL is concerned ALL CRITICS OF THE RCC are liars. More precisely clueless liars. But that also applies to Pope Francis.
     
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  10. Bobby Jo

    Bobby Jo Well-Known Member

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    BAD ADVICE!

    GOOD ADVICE:
    Matt. 18:15 “If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. 16 But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every word may be confirmed by the evidence of two or three witnesses. 17 If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector.

    Furthermore, we CAN and SHOULD hold our "bretheren" accountable BOTH ON EARTH AND IN HEAVEN:

    Matt. 18:18 Truly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.


    Some say we're to "turn the other cheek", but that's when we're assailed by unbelievers. When we're assailed by "believers" we're to confront them and hold them accountable exactly as @Taken is attempting to do with @BreadOfLife!

    Bobby Jo
     
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  11. BreadOfLife

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    I find it hilarious that you create an entire thread about my exposing your lies - when ALL you had to do is to open up your Bible and turn to 1 John 1:8, where it says emphatically:

    1 John 1:8
    If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.

    Now, pay attention . . .

    When a Christian repents of his sin and asks for forgiveness in the name of Jesus – he is forgiven. According your own warped theology – this not only makes you free from you past sin, but it also erases your ability to commit FUTURE sins. So, you are saying that you are without sin, which, according to Scripture is a LIE.

    This is a lie that you have repeated DOZENS of times on this forum – so this isn’t an “unproven claim”.
    Your obsession with me seems to have reached a breaking point . . .
     
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    Bobby Jo Well-Known Member

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    Typically, a FALSE doctrine (or assertion) is an ERROR. Now if ERRORs were LIES, then @BreadOfLife would be a liar because repentance doesn't mean we won't still sin. We're still human and we still make mistakes, exactly as your statement proves.

    So don't expect others to be PERFECT until you're PERFECT, -- and NONE of us are there,
    Bobby Jo
     
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    Taken Well-Known Member

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    1 John 1:
    [8] If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

    There is NOTHING to ADDRESS...

    You simply blurting out 1 John 1:8 over and over and over and over and over like a five year old....is IRRELEVANT...

    UNTIL...you have QUOTED ANY ONE PERSON CLAIMING..."they HAVE NO SIN"...

    Are you seriously SO Dense...to NOT KNOW...YOU PrOVE NOTHING WiTHOUT CONTRAST of the a person's own words?

    FOR the ELEMENTARY EXAMPLE...

    QUOTE ONCE PERSON CLAIMING "they HAVE NO SIN"...

    THen QUOTE 1 John 1:8 as a CONTRAST...

    In how many hundreds of POSTS have you FAILED to QUOTE ONE person making the claim of "having no Sin" ?

    Ridiculously Laughable....how many times you have done that...it's now but a forum JOKE.

    LOL

    Glory to God,
    Taken
     
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    Taken Well-Known Member

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    BreadOfLife...has CLAIMED, to have personally witnessed Taken LYING on this forum...

    BOL...PROVE YOUR CLAIM...

    QUOTE ANY of Taken's "SUPPOSED" LIES that you have CLAIMED BOL...

    BOL...why hide from your opportunity to prove your claims?

    Glory to God,
    Taken
     
  15. Waiting on him

    Waiting on him Well-Known Member

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    Your wrong again, well partially wrong. A man that says he doesn’t have sin make God a liar.
     
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    LOL
    Don't you know:
    @BreadOfLife calls everyone a liar!
    I had quite a discussion with him on these threads when I first joined here.
    He'd call me a liar all the time...

    He does this with those who do not agree with something he says.
    To him disagreement is lying....

    He happens to be a super intelligent Catholic, which is not easy to come by.
    He knows the doctrine and he knows the history of the church.

    I'm sorry he has the attitude he has, this must come from battling INCORRECT ASSUMPTIONS about Catholicism after years.

    I must say that it IS very frustrating for persons outside the denomination to THINK they know more of it than someone IN that denomination that KNOWS it very well.

    That still does not forgive the attitude, which I also wish would change.
     
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    Waiting on him Well-Known Member

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    Imagine if you will, waking up one day to realize that practically all of your life you have aligned yourself, possibly even worshiped Liars, murderers, blasphemous, child molesters, that would be pretty devastating
     
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    And that’s no lie.
     
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    Sorry, but I have to disagree with you. BoL knows only that which he wants to know... That which remains, he denies.
    BoL's self confessed motive for being here, in fact the only reason he is here according to him, is to expose all who have lied about the Catholic church. Which means that everyone on this forum to whom he has spoken, are liars. He had no reason to talk to anyone else except they lie. The problem he has ( @GodsGrace ) is that he is a very good Catholic. Faithful, zealous, willing to defend his church at whatever cost to himself, obedient. Why is that a problem? Because all those qualities are directed toward the church as an institution, and not to Jesus. Hence what he is told by the church as being truth, becomes the word of God. Thus his traditions and catechisms hold more weight than scripture. Even though he posts scripture in defence of his concepts, he does so only from the perspective of what the church teaches as to their relevance and meaning, and turns a very blind eye to the possibility that there may just be an alternative understanding which his bias must deny
     
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    Taken Well-Known Member

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    Teaching and Indoctrination rival one another.

    Both are the platform of the catholic church.
    Historically instituted;
    ...the Appointed pope
    ...then Indoctrinate, he can not lie or be wrong
    ...then Teach what he says
    ...ostracize resistors

    BOL has self-appointed himself to be THEE forum "ostracizer" ... and hasn't figured out,
    Non-Catholics are not scrambling to become a Catholic, nor do Non-catholics care that he, AS A catholic is anti-everything that is NOT catholic.

    The more he falsely accuses, the less trustworthy he becomes.
    The more he preaches unverifiable catholic doctrine, the more people REJECT catholic doctrine and the teacher.

    Oddly he seems to enjoy the rejection as an excuse to use his "worn out" comical prefabricated list of accusations, VOID of verification.

    To his credit, he is the Master of comedy of errors.


    Glory to God,
    Taken
     
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