Can a tare become saved?
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1 Corinthians 5:10-11 gives a list of reasons for excommunicating a person from the church. It is Biblical to excommunicate a tare.
Dash RipRock
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Actually Hitler was Lutheran and was a big fan of Martin Luther.
He talks about it in some of his writings.
He never claimed to be a catholic
Yeah and good luck forcing them to actually live in agreement with your statement of faith.
People just want to be a part of the social club and will agree to whatever just to get in.
It doesn't mean they actually agree with it.
Saying it is weird to capitalize satan's name is personally attacking someone? Really?
Right, and that is the end result of saying tares should continue in the church instead of excommunicating them as the Bible says should happen.
Sister-n-Christ
Member
That is false. Hitler was Catholic. Anyone who studied WW2 and his campaign,The Final Solution,know this to be true. Hitler in his actual writings said he was doing the work of Jesus.
Apologies. I didn't realize your implying I have some affinity for Satan by capitalizing his name was instead a sign English is not your first language.
Yes,in English Grammar Satan is capitalized because it is a proper noun.
That should assist in your studies.
Sister-n-Christ
Member
Romans 16Avoid Divisive Persons
17 Now I urge you, brethren, note those who cause divisions and offenses, contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and avoid them. 18 For those who are such do not serve our Lord [d]Jesus Christ, but their own belly, and by smooth words and flattering speech deceive the hearts of the simple. 19 For your obedience has become known to all. Therefore I am glad on your behalf; but I want you to be wise in what is good, and [e]simple concerning evil. 20 And the God of peace will crush Satan under your feet shortly.The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen.
Dash RipRock
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If all tares were kicked out, nobody would be in attendance including the pastor.
Most pastors and bible teachers are tares now.
Remember, Jesus said in Matthew 7:14 that narrow is the way, which leads unto life, and few there be that find it
That is false. Hitler was Lutheran because Martin Luther was a German who advocated for Germany to be free of Jewish influence and Hitler followed Luther's example
I go by God's Word and satan deserves zero respect and honor.
God teaches in His Word that there isn't anything proper about satan
amigo de christo
Well-Known Member
By the grace of our HOLY GOD , HIS CHRIST and all that is OF HIM
you looking at a man that was once the worst of the worst , and could still have lipped HE beleived .
But praise be to GOD who is full of mercy and compassion , HE woke this man UP .
PUT HIM RIGHT INTO THE BIBLE TOO .
My goodness i still remember that lovely day . Now it had started out just like every other day before it
WITH a wicked man who loved his sin , YET COULD CLIAM HE BELIEVED IN JESUS .
That should scare the socks off most within even christedome itself .
I wont even begin to list the things i did . It could scare the moles off a sun burnt albino .
Scare the skin off a man what i could do . AND yet most are darn near the same man i was , and the most i speak of
ARE SITTING IN Churches still and even on websites .
BUT i digress . back to the topic. OH that day may have started out the same as every other day before
But by mid to late afternoon a stirring began . LETS PRAISE GOD SHALL WE , cause i sure didnt do that , HE DID .
And a whole different direction by a small stirring began .
FRIEND , i was so stirred up to SEEK and to LEARN OF GOD . it was amazing i must admit .
ANY guesses on what BOOK he put me into . THE HOLY BIBLE .
And man i could not get enough of that book . THANKS BE TO HIS TRUE LOVE HE PUT ON MY HEART for HIM , FOR TRUTH .
I was in it hours upon hours daily . Hours i could enjoy it . ITS LIKE all my heart wanted
was to know and to serve GOD . Some days , were up to EIGHT hours a day .
Do remember i was worst of the worst , SO THIS CAME OF GOD and not me .
Long story short , HE has Kept ME TO THIS DAY in that book .
WHY when i turned on TBN did it leave me empty at the first
WHY when i was so hungry for fellowship in churches DID THIER SERMONS LEAVE ME EMPTY
BUT NOT THE TRUTH IN THAT bible . NOW it didnt take too long to figure out why that was my friend .
THEY preaching THE MIX NOT THE WHOLE TRUTH .
That day was may thirtieth , in the year of our LORD two thousand and six
and as concering the reading of that bible daily
what has changed since that day , NOTHING . I STILL TO THIS DAY LOVE LOVE reading it every single day
WITH OTHERS TOO . yet i reject with upmost disgust THEM OTHER BOOKS so many seem to love .
NOW WHY IS that . CAUSE THEM best selling books , YA BEST LIFE NOW , ya rick warrens
YA SHACK , ya purpose driven life , THEMS BOOKS are DUNG . But the bible sure aint .
WHY do you think i keep on keeping on by the GRACE OF GOD trying to get everyone i know
TO GET back into that BOOK for themselves , and far from the denominations of men .
CAUSE MANY within CHRISTENDOM have been FLEECED and sadly seem to love to have it so .
Folks might be thinking i am too critical , judgmental , too hateful .
THEY WOULD BE WRONG .
I was just like them sold out ones are . BUT GOD TOOK MERCY and BY HIS GRACE
HIS SPIRIT i am trying TO HELP THEM . but friend , for my LOVE am i hated . FOR My love
am i scourned BY MOST ALL EVEN IN CHRISTENDOM . let that sink in for a bit
PEOPLE on even this site are fast to put me on ignore . but man do they love to hear twisted doctrines of men . SOMETHING
aint right , yes indeed CHRISTENDOM , CATHOLIC and PROTESTANT have BEEN TAKEN FOR A RIDE
on the train called the DELUSION that leads to PERDITION . and that is A FACT .
Sister-n-Christ
Member
I understand you will not be taught and receive the truth. I will concede to your preference to remain ignorant.
Sister-n-Christ
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amigo de christo
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You aint even overexaggerting . in fact if every false tare within EVEN CHRISTENDOM were to stand and arise
and be colored pink . THESE CHURCHES WOULD GLOW GLOW GLOW BRIGHT PINK .
THE FALSE LEAD THE FALSE , THE TARES LEAD THE TARES . and i know that is gonna offend a whole lot of folks .
STAY GLUED IN THE BIBLE my friend and let us do all we can to warn this people . WHILE there still be TIME to Warn them .
amigo de christo
Well-Known Member
Look while i dont know evething this other person says . THEY are right about one thing
IF you did kick the tares outta these churches , THE LEADERS and most all would BE GONE .
that might sound judgmental to you . I even understand , in part , as to WHY it might seem so judgmental .
BUT IT IS THE TRUTH . I dont say that to codemn you or them . I was the WORST of the worst
AND GOD changes the heart . THIS generation IS in trouble .
AND I dont care HOW MUCH hate against me it costs me or even if it costs my life
I AM GONNA BY HIS GRACE DO ALL I CAN to warn this people , FOR I LOVE THEM and DESIRE ONLY GOOD for them .
WE all been duped sister . We must bible up for ourselves and learn for ourselves .
I will keep all in prayer and be praying for all .
amigo de christo
Well-Known Member
GOD knows all things . AND all things are possible with GOD , CEPT for one THING , HE CANT LIE .
NOR CAN HIS SPIRIT , NOR CAN HIS CHRIST .
SO i suggest a heavy dose of bible reading so as we can learn for ourselves
what these tares who lead most all of christendom AINT teaching . THE RIGHTLY DIVIDED TRUTH . Say what you will
against me , BUT I DO WHAT I DO and it DARN sure aint for a popularity contest , or for the praise of men
OR for a followig, cause in order to get that , I HAD TO SELL OUT and be just like i once was
and just like most all , most all , most all these leaders EVEN WITHIN CHRISTENDOM .
Friend i cant say it enough , WE BEEN DECIEVED and they have been decieving for years and years
TILL NOW MOST ALL of christendom has no IDEA what it has lost , LET ALONE THEY ARE THE LOST .
amigo de christo
Well-Known Member
JESUS tells us AS TO WHY the tares are allowed .
GO to and behold his words . HIS WORDS
and then know and understand GOD shall not return till HIS harvest is ripe
and the inquity of the tares has hit the full . CAUSE WHEN HE COMETH
it is to RID THIS EARTH of all evil and to gather his HARVEST unto himself .
Pull not up the tares lest you also uproot the wheat , the corn with it .
LET BOTH GROW TOGETHER TILL THE HARVEST
THEN ...............................ITS COMING SCOTT . ITS ALL COMING TO AN END
and many GONNA WAIL as never before . I LOVE THIS PEOPLE , I MUST WARN , I MUST WARN
and REMIND ALL while there still be TIME TO DO SO . MEN have fleeced THE ENTIRE LOTT Now .
WE MUST RETURN TO THAT BIBLE RIGHT NOW , THIS HOUR , THIS VERY MINUTE
, I BEG US ALL , IDESIRE , I DESIRE ONLY GOOD for this people . GET IN that bible again JUST FOR YOU
and you read it FOR YOU and NOT THROUGH ANY scholars view , nor denominations view
JUST READ IT FOR YOU . SCOTT my soul is truly terrified for this generation . IT HAS NO IDEA ITS BEEN DECIEVED
ad LOVES to have it so .
amigo de christo
Well-Known Member
The field IS THE WORLD , NOT the CHURCH my friend . Lets also try and REMEMBER THAT .
but sadly in most all cases the CHURCH has BECOME the world and the tares not only sit in them
THEY RULE OVER THEM . this is a fact . THEY RUN OFF ANYTHING that holds a bible and tries to correct .
THEY SEE IT HAS HATE and non loving . GET in the bible . WILL EVERYONE just please get back into the bible again .
learn for ourselves that which most all no longer teach in the churches , THE RIGHTLY DIVIDED TRUTH . please .
The wheat and tares is similar to Paul's teaching in Romans 9
The wheat receive mercy from God to be saved, and the tares were hardened.
14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? Certainly not! 15 For He says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whomever I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whomever I will have compassion.” 16 So then it is not of him who wills, nor of him who runs, but of God who shows mercy. 17 For the Scripture says to the Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I may show My power in you, and that My name may be declared in all the earth.”
18 Therefore He has mercy on whom He wills, and whom He wills He hardens.
19 You will say to me then, “Why does He still find fault? For who has resisted His will?”
20 But indeed, O man, who are you to reply against God? Will the thing formed say to him who formed it, “Why have you made me like this?”
21 Does not the potter have power over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel for honor and another for dishonor?
v22 are the tares
22 What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction,
v23 are the wheat
23 and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had prepared beforehand for glory,
24 even us whom He called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
25 As He says also in Hosea:
“I will call them My people, who were not My people,
And her beloved, who was not beloved.”
26 “And it shall come to pass in the place where it was said to them,
‘You are not My people,’
There they shall be called sons of the living God.”
27 Isaiah also cries out concerning Israel:
“Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea,
The remnant will be saved.
28 For [b]He will finish the work and cut it short in righteousness,
Because the Lord will make a short work upon the earth.”
29 And as Isaiah said before:
“Unless the Lord of [c]Sabaoth had left us a seed,
We would have become like Sodom,
And we would have been made like Gomorrah.”
Present Condition of Israel
30 What shall we say then? That Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness of faith; 31 but Israel, pursuing the law of righteousness, has not attained to the law [d]of righteousness. 32 Why? Because they did not seek it by faith, but as it were, [e]by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumbling stone. 33 As it is written:“Behold, I lay in Zion a stumbling stone and rock of offense,
And whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.”
amigo de christo
Well-Known Member
lets all relax a bit . You think telling someone to not captilize the name of satan is attacking
OH MY DEAR SISTER you should see the names i been called . I MEAN called outright by so called christains .
NOW I wont say the four letter ones or words relating to them .
BUT how about SATAN , ANTI CHRIST , DEVIL , HATER ,
hows that . but i dont sit and whine and let my feelings get hurt . SISTER they called JESUS the devil
AND HE SAID HOW MUCH worse will they call us . WE gots to get away from this stuff sister .
ITS BIBLE TIME IN the building , TIME we learn what these tares who lead most all of christendom
wont , THE RIGHTLY DIVIDED TRUTH for ourselves . I LOVE THIS PEOPLE
and so no matter what folks call me or do to me , SO BE IT , MAY THE LORD FORGIVE THEM
for what they say and do against me . BUT SISTER , SOMEONE GOTTA DO SOMETHING
and this sheep has been called and WILL DO SOMETHING no matter the cost to me . I LOVE YOU and all
BUT WE HAVE REALLY GOT TO GET back into the bible for our selves .
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