Can You Defeat the Spirit Within Me

[Episkopos]

How can any one be a new creature
when they are still in the same old dying body
that is still under the law of sin and death?

Please explain it to me.

We have this treasure in earthen vessels. To enter into Christ is to enter into His life, His holiness. In Him is no sin. Jesus has perfected in Himself the holy walk in His humanity. So then His humanity is a gift to us that we should walk as He walked.

 

[st3712]

It is not about us verses them, it is about us for them. Look at the cross and what happened there.

Please explain further your theology to me.

 

[st3712]

We have this treasure in earthen vessels. To enter into Christ is to enter into His life, His holiness. In Him is no sin. Jesus has perfected in Himself the holy walk in His humanity. So then His humanity is a gift to us that we should walk as He walked.

Well now the first question that comes to mind
when I read what you said to me is:
Do you walk as Jesus walked?
After all unless you do
then what you have said to me
is not true for you.

So

Do you walk as Jesus walked?

 

[st3712]

For 3 nights I have prayed for you, even before you came in this form, this time. So you see, you will be the winner, and I will be the loser, and that will be for your sake.

How would that make you a loser when it is written
and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

Did you pray evil upon me?

 

[Episkopos]

Well now the first question that comes to mind
when I read what you said to me is:
Do you walk as Jesus walked?
After all unless you do
then what you have said to me
is not true for you.

So

Do you walk as Jesus walked?

If you knew the spiritual walk then you would know that none of us can walk in that grace unless we enter into Him. In Him is no sin. He is our perfection.

But then you would have to know the difference between HIS purity in us...and the responsibility of becoming mature IN that purity.

You would also have to learn that God doesn't let you walk in that kind of power unless you are prepared to love and sacrifice as Jesus did. We don't become mature for ourselves...but for others. To be a light in the world.

What is it you are showing here?

 

[st3712]

A word to the wise(if there are any that are wise on this forum)
unless what you say to me has no error or contradictions within it
it is best not to say it to me.

 

[st3712]

If you knew the spiritual walk then you would know that none of us can walk in that grace unless we enter into Him. In Him is no sin. He is our perfection.

But then you would have to know the difference between HIS purity in us...and the responsibility of becoming mature IN that purity.

You would also have to learn that God doesn't let you walk in that kind of power unless you are prepared to love and sacrifice as Jesus did. We don't become mature for ourselves...but for others. To be a light in the world.

What is it you are showing here?

It does not matter what I know or do not know
Your words are your words
not mine. And they speak for themselves.
I do not speak for them.

Maybe you should include not only as Jesus walked
but as Jesus talked.

For there was no error or contradictions
in anything that He ever said to anyone or anything.

 

[st3712]

If you knew the spiritual walk then you would know that none of us can walk in that grace unless we enter into Him. In Him is no sin. He is our perfection.

Please explain this contradiction between you and Jesus.
Matthew 5:48
Be ye therefore perfect,
even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

Now notice
He did not say

Be ye therefore perfect in me,
even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

He said:
Be ye therefore perfect,
even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

I am waiting for your explanation.

 

[Episkopos]

Please explain this contradiction between you and Jesus.
Matthew 5:48
Be ye therefore perfect,
even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

There is no contradiction. We become partakers of His life and holiness by entering into Him.

So then IN Him I am as He is. That is the WAY of eternal life.

"As He is so are we in this world"...IF...we are IN Him.

This is about Jesus Christ....not us. But we become as He is when we are abiding in Him.

 

[ScottA]

That to which is in me is greater
than anything that is within you.
And I am here to prove it
on your Christian debate forum.

I will debate all that will try to defeat
that to which is in me.

I shall post that to which the Spirit within me
instructs me and then debate any that
try to defeat me.

Or you can post whatever the spirit or spirits in you instruct you
and I will defeat you by the Spirit within me.

"I", "I", "I", "me", "me."

Fail.

 

[Taken]

How come you do not believe Revelation 5:6 word for word as it is written by the author
and why have you replaced it with your own interpretation?

You are the one who quoted Rev 5:6, I didn't quote it... you did, and I left it there AS YOU QUOTED it.

Nowhere did I deny what Rev 5:6 says.

I didn't replace it with my interpretation, I made a rewark ABOUT Rev 5:6.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[st3712]

"I", "I", "I", "me", "me."

Fail.

The problem you have with this accusation is that
it will not be validated before the Lord.

If you are going to accuse me and make it stick
make sure it is an accusation that will validate itself before the Lord
otherwise it will just return to you with that to which you deserve.

 

[st3712]

You are the one who quoted Rev 5:6, I didn't quote it... you did, and I left it there AS YOU QUOTED it.

Nowhere did I deny what Rev 5:6 says.

I didn't replace it with my interpretation, I made a rewark ABOUT Rev 5:6.

Glory to God,
Taken

Do you believe the Spirit of the Lord can read?

 

[st3712]

There is no contradiction. We become partakers of His life and holiness by entering into Him.

So then IN Him I am as He is. That is the WAY of eternal life.

"As He is so are we in this world"...IF...we are IN Him.

This is about Jesus Christ....not us. But we become as He is when we are abiding in Him.

When you commit sin are you abiding in Him?
It is pretty easy to defeat your words.

The truth cannot be defeated.

 

[Enoch111]

A word to the wise(if there are any that are wise on this forum)
unless what you say to me has no error or contradictions within it
it is best not to say it to me.

Yes. The best course of action would be to simply ignore you, but some can't help feeding the trolls.

 

[st3712]

Yes. The best course of action would be to simply ignore you, but some can't help feeding the trolls.

You are just a glutton for punishment.
But as they say from whence I come
" Better you than me ".

 

[Episkopos]

When you commit sin are you abiding in Him?
It is pretty easy to defeat your words.

No one can sin while abiding in Him. In Him is no sin. One must come out into the open to sin. One must take one's own freedom and will outside of God's to sin.

if you don't know this then how are you remotely qualified to judge what being a faithful Christian is?

A humble person...and wise...would consider it a possibility that they are deceived.

Do you believe in a sinful holiness as is taught today?

 

[st3712]

No one can sin while abiding in Him.

Then no one who commits sin is a new creature.

I win again.

 

[Episkopos]

from whence I come
" Better you than me ".

That is not a place with God. The Spirit of Christ takes on the fault of others in sacrifice. Only the devil looks to live while others die.

So you have revealed from "whence you come"...and where you are going.

 

[st3712]

No one can sin while abiding in Him. In Him is no sin. One must come out into the open to sin. One must take one's own freedom and will outside of God's to sin.

if you don't know this then how are you remotely qualified to judge what being a faithful Christian is?

A humble person...and wise...would consider it a possibility that they are deceived.

Do you believe in a sinful holiness as is taught today?

Now that is funny.
There is no sin in holiness.