Can You Defeat the Spirit Within Me

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That is not a place with God. The Spirit of Christ takes on the fault of others in sacrifice. Only the devil looks to live while others die.

So you have revealed from "whence you come"...and where you are going.
I guess since you lost you mine as well lose it all.

As they say from whence I come

" better you than me ".
 

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How can any one be a new creature
when they are still in the same old dying body
that is still under the law of sin and death?

Please explain it to me.

A Converted person, VOLUNTARILY chooses to be spiritually CRUCIFIED with Christ.

They have Accomplished their (appointed unto man (BODILY) to once DIE) their OLD Body, has become DEAD.

They have not YET received their NEW BODY, (but they have received their Restored soul, New Heart, New spirit)...

The ONLY BODY that has been RISEN IN GLORY is the Lord Jesus' body, and it is HIS RISEN GLORIFIED BODY, which a Converted man LIVES IN.....hello...Alive "IN" Christ.

Glory to God,
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A Converted person, VOLUNTARILY chooses to be spiritually CRUCIFIED with Christ.

They have Accomplished their (appointed unto man (BODILY) to once DIE) their OLD Body, has become DEAD.

They have not YET received their NEW BODY, (but they have received their Restored soul, New Heart, New spirit)...

The ONLY BODY that has been RISEN IN GLORY is the Lord Jesus' body, and it is HIS RISEN GLORIFIED BODY, which a Converted man LIVES IN.....hello...Alive "IN" Christ.

Glory to God,
Taken
I have overcome the temptation to laugh and mock you for what you say to me.
 

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Please explain this contradiction between you and Jesus.
Matthew 5:48
Be ye therefore perfect,
even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

Now notice
He did not say

Be ye therefore perfect in me,
even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

He said:
Be ye therefore perfect,
even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

I am waiting for your explanation.
You distort and conflict the context of this scripture....let's add the whole teaching.
From the Sermon on the Mount...The Beatitudes and what Jesus explained after.
Matthew 5 New Living Translation (NLT)
The Sermon on the Mount
5 One day as he saw the crowds gathering, Jesus went up on the mountainside and sat down. His disciples gathered around him, 2 and he began to teach them.

The Beatitudes
3 “God blesses those who are poor and realize their need for him,
for the Kingdom of Heaven is theirs.
4 God blesses those who mourn,
for they will be comforted.
5 God blesses those who are humble,
for they will inherit the whole earth.
6 God blesses those who hunger and thirst for justice,
for they will be satisfied.
7 God blesses those who are merciful,
for they will be shown mercy.
8 God blesses those whose hearts are pure,
for they will see God.
9 God blesses those who work for peace,
for they will be called the children of God.
10 God blesses those who are persecuted for doing right,
for the Kingdom of Heaven is theirs.

11 “God blesses you when people mock you and persecute you and lie about you and say all sorts of evil things against you because you are my followers. 12 Be happy about it! Be very glad! For a great reward awaits you in heaven. And remember, the ancient prophets were persecuted in the same way.

Teaching about Salt and Light
13 “You are the salt of the earth. But what good is salt if it has lost its flavor? Can you make it salty again? It will be thrown out and trampled underfoot as worthless.

14 “You are the light of the world—like a city on a hilltop that cannot be hidden. 15 No one lights a lamp and then puts it under a basket. Instead, a lamp is placed on a stand, where it gives light to everyone in the house. 16 In the same way, let your good deeds shine out for all to see, so that everyone will praise your heavenly Father.

Teaching about the Law
17 “Don’t misunderstand why I have come. I did not come to abolish the law of Moses or the writings of the prophets. No, I came to accomplish their purpose. 18 I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not even the smallest detail of God’s law will disappear until its purpose is achieved. 19 So if you ignore the least commandment and teach others to do the same, you will be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven. But anyone who obeys God’s laws and teaches them will be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven.

20 “But I warn you—unless your righteousness is better than the righteousness of the teachers of religious law and the Pharisees, you will never enter the Kingdom of Heaven!

Teaching about Anger
21 “You have heard that our ancestors were told, ‘You must not murder. If you commit murder, you are subject to judgment.’ 22 But I say, if you are even angry with someone, you are subject to judgment! If you call someone an idiot, you are in danger of being brought before the court. And if you curse someone, you are in danger of the fires of hell.

23 “So if you are presenting a sacrifice at the altar in the Temple and you suddenly remember that someone has something against you, 24 leave your sacrifice there at the altar. Go and be reconciled to that person. Then come and offer your sacrifice to God.

25 “When you are on the way to court with your adversary, settle your differences quickly. Otherwise, your accuser may hand you over to the judge, who will hand you over to an officer, and you will be thrown into prison. 26 And if that happens, you surely won’t be free again until you have paid the last penny.

Teaching about Adultery
27 “You have heard the commandment that says, ‘You must not commit adultery.’ 28 But I say, anyone who even looks at a woman with lust has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 So if your eye—even your good eye—causes you to lust, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. 30 And if your hand—even your stronger hand—causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.

Teaching about Divorce
31 “You have heard the law that says, ‘A man can divorce his wife by merely giving her a written notice of divorce.’32 But I say that a man who divorces his wife, unless she has been unfaithful, causes her to commit adultery. And anyone who marries a divorced woman also commits adultery.

Teaching about Vows
33 “You have also heard that our ancestors were told, ‘You must not break your vows; you must carry out the vows you make to the Lord.’ 34 But I say, do not make any vows! Do not say, ‘By heaven!’ because heaven is God’s throne. 35 And do not say, ‘By the earth!’ because the earth is his footstool. And do not say, ‘By Jerusalem!’ for Jerusalem is the city of the great King. 36 Do not even say, ‘By my head!’ for you can’t turn one hair white or black. 37 Just say a simple, ‘Yes, I will,’ or ‘No, I won’t.’ Anything beyond this is from the evil one.

Teaching about Revenge
38 “You have heard the law that says the punishment must match the injury: ‘An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.’ 39 But I say, do not resist an evil person! If someone slaps you on the right cheek, offer the other cheek also. 40 If you are sued in court and your shirt is taken from you, give your coat, too. 41 If a soldier demands that you carry his gear for a mile, carry it two miles. 42 Give to those who ask, and don’t turn away from those who want to borrow.

Teaching about Love for Enemies
43 “You have heard the law that says, ‘Love your neighbor’and hate your enemy. 44 But I say, love your enemies! Pray for those who persecute you! 45 In that way, you will be acting as true children of your Father in heaven. For he gives his sunlight to both the evil and the good, and he sends rain on the just and the unjust alike. 46 If you love only those who love you, what reward is there for that? Even corrupt tax collectors do that much. 47 If you are kind only to your friends, how are you different from anyone else? Even pagans do that. 48 But you are to be perfect, even as your Father in heaven is perfect.

You keep throwing out these one-verse challenges and totally don't even understand the meaning of it yourself. You are a fool in every aspect of rightly dividing the truth of God's Word and trying to come here with your puffed up pride thinking you know more than others.
 

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Then no one who commits sin is a new creature.

I win again.

You will always lose because you reason with the carnal mind. And the carnal mind always seeks to justify itself. It is always the hero in the story. Not so the ones who are following Christ.

And i know from whence you come and where you are going.

For others who are reading this....there is a difference between Christ in you...and you entering into Christ. A Christian can sin...because he has not yet learned to abide in Christ. So then we are forgiven in order to go back to THAT walk. The walk that is by grace through faith. No one is just forgiven for a continued walk according to the flesh. We are to learn to walk by the Spirit. To enter into the Spirit.

By the Spirit we don't sin. We put to death the sins of the flesh.

But when we walk as ordinary men in our own power...we WILL sin. Because we are too weak of ourselves to walk as Jesus walked. We need His grace. Without Him, we can do nothing. :)
 

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This has been yet again
a most prosperous day in the Lord on this forum.
 

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To the OP...the Lord rebuke you.

This is not a sport like a spitting contest. Your time will come to understand what you have done.
 
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This has been yet again
a most prosperous day in the Lord on this forum.
Do you dare mock God? Will you continue to imply that He is a part of your ridicule and deception? Can I defeat the spirit within you? I wouldn't even try, but Jesus can.
 

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I have overcome the temptation to laugh and mock you for what you say to me.

Since you have made up some phrase not in scripture, and can not define what your made up phrase means to you....

It is a WOT to bother with your OP, that is based on your undefined phrase.

Glory to God,
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Do you dare mock God? Will you continue to imply that He is a part of your ridicule and deception? Can I defeat the spirit within you? I wouldn't even try, but Jesus can.
Do you actually believe all this nonsense you have said to me?
Seriously we want to know?

Why would Jesus try to defeat Himself in me?

lol

lol

lol
 

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Since you have made up some phrase not in scripture, and can not define what your made up phrase means to you....

It is a WOT to bother with your OP, that is based on your undefined phrase.

Glory to God,
Taken
I sure hope you have some awesome blessings.
 

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You put the sin back into sincerity.
If you have to make any accusations at all about me
at least make sure they are not false accusations
or you will yet lose again to me.

How much more can you afford to lose?
 

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Do you actually believe all this nonsense you have said to me?
Seriously we want to know?

Why would Jesus try to defeat Himself in me?

lol

lol

lol
He is not in you....you can't even apply His teaching in proper context.
 
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You put the sin back into sincerity.

I am glad that the Lord God turned you over to me
for you have been hunting on the christian forums for a very long time now.

This is long overdue in my opinion.