Typical. This is why those of us who are not Catholic walk away shaking our heads.
I have posted scritpure, links to CATHOLIC sites that agree with what I say and have repeatedly asked Selene to please respond without attacking.
I guess that is just asking too much.
No one is bleeding all over the threads. That's just you being snarky because, well, that's what you do I guess.
Neither of you seem able to be civil for very long. I had a little hope with your last post, but hey, it's just the same boring nasty response again
No worries though. Now you can be on my ignore list along with her.
Go ahead..snark away. It's boring already.
No I never ignored any such thing.
I know the Bible probably better than you do. I certainly seem to understand it better.
Let's have a closer look at your words in the quote above.
1. You say I ignored what Paul said. Where? If I mentioned it...then how could I possibly ignore it? And, if I did not mention it, then how could I possibly ignore it?
I would had to have mentioned it and said let's ignore it for your words to be true. This is just typical of the way you and your friend respond to things. You attack
and twist.
2. I know full well what Paul wrote...the problem is, Catholics or at least those in leadership, have ADDED to the Bible...like they usually do because you know, God's
words just are not binding enough, and they have said that it is better not to marry and so you are NOT ALLOWED to marry, if you want to serve God. HOWEVER
the marriage bed is undefiled. It is people like yourself and others who ADD to the words of God and those who were inspired in their writing to the churches,
by defiling scripture and forbidding to marry when neither Paul and certainly not God who created both sexes to begin with, EVER said any such thing.
3. The Bible speaks of elders as leaders in the church...NOT PRIESTS my friend...priests were OT and Jesus is our HIGH PRIEST...NOT your pope or any one of you.
Jesus also said to call no one but God Father...yet you lay that title on anyone that would like to wear it through ordination. NOT in the Bible. You all just like
the pomp and circumstance of you religious grab and great big swelling words of hypocrisy.
Elders are to have one one wife and Paul says it is better to marry then to burn. Have any priests transgressed Gods commandments? Perhaps they should have
been married so as to avoid burning,.
I have no idea why you would even mention Jesus did not marry. Really! No kidding! He was God in the flesh. I guess not then, eh?
As far as the Apostles being married, here is a quote from yet another CATHOLIC site...so eat your words
The only other thing in the New Testament that is said directly about the apostles and their families is in Paul’s first letter to the Corinthians (9:5), where he asks, “Do we not have the right to take along a Christian wife, as do the rest of the apostles ...?”
From that passage, and from the early writings of the church fathers, it seems probable that all of the apostles were married when they were called by Jesus (with the possible exception of John, who seems to have been very young when chosen).
Read it for yourself and apologize. Never mind...that is not something you perfect people need to do most likely.
It seems probable that ALL of the apostles were married.
You people are the blind leading the blind.
and seriously? Catholics should stick to their own forums instead of coming to Christian forums and trying to belittle everyone and being rude and aggressive when we
show you from scripture how wrong you and the pope really are.
You have plenty of forums in which to discuss your anti-biblical beliefs, so why don't you take it there?
Say what you want...report it...cry..hire a lawyer...tell your priest. I don't care. Really.
oh yeah...one more thing....baptism does not save anyone. Only Jesus saves.
Your religion is manmade.
Clement of Alexandria, for example, wrote, “Peter and Philip fathered children, and Philip gave his daughters in marriage.” This would be consistent, too, with the custom of that period in history, when it would have been quite unusual for a man to be unmarried.
But the common belief of the fathers seems to have been that, following their call by Christ, the apostles lived lives of celibacy from then on, their focus squarely on following Jesus during the two-and-a-half years of his public ministry and spreading his message thereafter.
(Some early Christian writers make reference to the fact that, even though celibate after their call, the apostles continued to provide for the temporal needs of their families through their occupations, such as fishing.)
In the earliest centuries of the church’s history, it was commonplace for clergy to be married. See, for example, Paul’s directive in his first letter to Timothy (3:2) that “a bishop should be irreproachable, married only once.” But by the fourth century, when the Council of Elvira was held in Spain, it seems clear that celibacy was already commonplace among Christian clergy, though it never became an absolute mandate for the Latin-rite church until the 11th century.
To just examine the above a little closer....and to further demonstrate how your faith cannot make up its mind, nowhere in scritpure do we read the apostles became celibate and left their families.
I wish you understood how little regard I have for the lies of the teaching of the RCC.
Fear no one but God. God alone is Holy. I pray that those who really do belong to Christ come out from the lies and cling to Jesus instead of your pope.