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Holy Ghost or not, God won't prevent the consequences you will suffer as the result of your free will choice to countenance the wicked thing.

Bottom line: Virtually no one has sincerely submitted his desire to possess a cell phone firstly and foremostly to God and then patiently waited for his answer.

I did, and the Lord has no problem with it as long as it's not made in to an idol. Lots of things like this are fine to use but anything can be made in to an idol and idolatry is sinful behavior and is one of the things on God's list of "those that do these things shall not inherit the Kingdom"

I'm old school. I just talk on the thing and rarely text and half the time I have mine set on submarine mode or whatever they call it when the cell phone is taken off line so to speak where it cannot connect to cell towers.

Those with a weak conscience (still in diapers) who feel like having a cell phone would get in the way of their relationship with the Lord should definitely not have one since it apparently will cause them to backslide and fall away from the Lord.

They probably scared that they will start watching porn on the thing are bust out in to some other sinful behavior related to having / using a cell phone. These are the folks falsely taught that God put sin in them when He formed them in their mother's womb believing they were born sinners and as such they just have to sin in word and deed daily as they believe they can never ever stop sinning
 

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...I just talk on the thing and rarely text and half the time I have mine set on submarine mode...
Those with a weak conscience (still in diapers) who feel like having a cell phone would get in the way of their relationship with the Lord should definitely not have one...
They probably scared that they will start watching porn on the thing are bust out in to some other sinful behavior related to having / using a cell phone.
I've heard all the varied and colorful excuses before. The Lord plainly states that he will give you the answer you've already decided you want!

It may be wise to double-check. What you're hearing from God may not be what I'm hearing from God.
"Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices." (2 Cor. 2:11)
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I've heard all the varied and colorful excuses before. The Lord plainly states that he will give you the answer you've already decided you want!

Yes, those with a weak conscience (still in diapers) who feel like having a cell phone would get in the way of their relationship with the Lord should definitely not have one...


"Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices." (2 Cor. 2:11)

Sounds like you better not get a cell phone since you believe it's one of satan's "devices".

In your view, are those who use cell phones going to hell?

The New Testament lists numerous things that cause people to not inherit God's Kingdom, so where can we find cell phone use as being a sin that shall not be forgiven?
 

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Yes, those with a weak conscience (still in diapers) who feel like having a cell phone would get in the way of their relationship with the Lord should definitely not have one...
So those with a strong "conscience" are good to continue pursuing whatever they "feel like"?

Sounds like you better not get a cell phone since you believe it's one of satan's "devices".
It’s amazing at all the self-justification posts in forums such as this. People say “scripture is silent on higher education for our children,” as they continue to carry out their will and not God’s; people say “it’s okay to be in debt because I want to please myself and my children and give them a future;” people say “horror movies are ok to watch because it has a good ending;” and people use the unscriptural word ‘rapture,’ which term is an integral part of a false doctrine, because “it doesn’t mean that to me.”

The New Testament lists numerous things that cause people to not inherit God's Kingdom, so where can we find cell phone use as being a sin that shall not be forgiven?
Recently, a local "Christian" friend was telling me how cleverly his kids will be dressing up for Halloween. I told him this holiday was of Satanic origin, and should not be observed by believers. He just smiled and said it doesn't mean that to me.

Another time, a Christian acquaintance defended taking his entire family to see a Harry Potter film. Blithely brushing aside my concerns about Christians embracing the fictional occult phenomena, he repeated the now familiar refrain "but it's just fantasy and fun stories. Besides, it doesn't mean that to me."

Of course, the rationalizations that "believers" offer to justify their veiled rejection of most things taught in the Bible are intricately crafted and cleverly varied. All those Biblical passages about how we should live are "the law," they say, and "we're not under the law, we're under grace." I've been repeatedly told about the "freedom" we have in Christ -- another apparent justification for behaving in whatever fashion suits us.

When I tell all who will listen that the Sword of God is raised against "the children of disobedience" and that America is about to be harshly judged, I've learned to expect a series of defensive New Testament verses taken out of context -- usually followed by the now hollow catch phrase "it doesn't mean that to me."

Those that have added that slick sound bite to their theological vocabulary can expect to learn a new phrase they will hear on judgment day: Depart from me, ye that work iniquity, I never knew you. And when they cry out in terrified desperation, `but Lord,' "we have eaten and drunk [taken communion] in thy presence," the Scriptures bluntly inform us that he will say "I know you not whence ye are." (Luke 13:26, 25)

And as they are being sent into outer darkness prepared for the Devil and his angels, the lost will undoubtedly follow in Satan's illustrious footsteps, and resort to twisting Scripture before the Lord -- `But Lord, your Bible promised that I all I ever had to do was just say that prayer, and accept you.' Wouldn't it be “ironic,” if he would then say to those that refused to listen to his repeated warnings, It Doesn't Mean That To Me.

In your view, are those who use cell phones going to hell?
You're asking the wrong person.
 

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So those with a strong "conscience" are good to continue pursuing whatever they "feel like"?

No, but we can be around sinners doing evil in the world and not lose our minds and get sucked in to joining them in their sin like most who claim to be Christians would.

In order to witness to people out in the world sometime you gotta get out among 'em.


people use the unscriptural word ‘rapture,’ which term is an integral part of a false doctrine, because “it doesn’t mean that to me.”

Many times I use "catching away", which is biblical.

Rapture is simply the english word used for the greek that speaks of catching away

The same is done with trinity which is not in the Bible either. It just means 3 because God's Word speaks of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost.


You're asking the wrong person.

You have no view point whatsoever on whether using a cell phone is evil or not?
 

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In order to witness to people out in the world sometime you gotta get out among 'em.
Rather, in the world but not of it.

Rapture is simply the english word used for the greek that speaks of catching away
I declare here and now that the word “rapture” never appears in the Bible. Now a rapturist will respond ‘that’s not true! I know the word IS in the Bible!’ and in a twisted way of looking at things, he’s right. Let me illustrate.

In Thessalonians 4:17 we see that “...we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together...in the clouds.” In this verse, the Greek word that Paul originally used when he wrote I Thessalonians was “harpazo.” This word means to be caught up or snatched up violently. When Catholic scholars produced early translations of the New Testament, they wrote in Latin. In those translations, they used the Latin word rapere as their equivalent for harpazo. This word rapere is the root word and the origin of the English word rapture. The root has other words associated with it -- including our word raptor, which describes a destructive bird of prey.

The New Testament was written in Greek. It was translated from the Greek into English by a team of spiritually blessed men of God back in the time of King James. I don’t consider any other version (including all English versions) to be the Bible. In this regard, the New International Version is blasphemous garbage -- not the word of God. I don’t speak Latin, no scriptures were ever given to any of the Lord’s Hebrew prophets in Latin, and no prophet of the Lord wrote in Latin. The only Latin writers I have any knowledge of were Catholic, and I am persuaded that the Scriptures demonstrate that Catholicism provides a significant component to what Revelation calls Mystery Babylon. Thus, the argument that the word “rapture” is in the Bible is dependent on a Latin translation -- i.e. work that is derived from Scripture, but is not scripture. Therefore, the word Rapture IS NOT IN THE BIBLE.

There is another way to approach the word game that is played by those what are caught in the cult. When they tell you the word “rapture” is in the Bible, ask them if the word Chernobyl is in the Bible. If they’re honest at all, they’ll say ‘of course not.’ Then show them Revelation 9:11 where after the 3rd trumpet the fresh waters are made bitter during the tribulation. The text says “And the name of the star is called Wormwood, and the third part of the waters became wormwood.”

Many of us know that the Ukrainian word for “wormwood” (which is actually an herbal purging substance) is Chernobyl. Now, how many of you speak or read Ukrainian? It’s likely that this wormwood episode is describing a nuclear contamination of fresh water at some point in the tribulation, but you could hardly say the actual word Chernobyl is in the Bible. It’s a Ukrainian word -- not Hebrew, Greek, or English. Indeed, 50 years ago if you said ‘You know, the word Chernobyl is in the Bible!’ people would have sent for the boys in the white coats to give you some Prozac.

The analogy is the same. Why pull out some strange word from a dead or foreign language that has no original connection with the scriptures? The only reason is to defend a doctrine that is not expressly taught anywhere in scripture.

You have no view point whatsoever on whether using a cell phone is evil or not?
Things are not evil; of themselves, things are neutral. However, I know to whose service that thing (i.e. cell phone) has been consecrated. I know what the purposes of cell phones are and thus why they are made to be addictive as possible via dopamine-driven apps and 24/7 subliminal programming.

My "view point" counts for nada. Rather, a simple inspection of the fruits of wireless addiction will reveal a mega can of worms...

I hope you have an understanding, on whatever level, that you are under electromagnetic attack. Interesting, too, that Satan is "the prince of the power of the air" - IOW, he has authority over the airwaves (for a season). Most importantly, I hope that you have sanctified yourself worthy of God's service in that area of RF avoidance so that he can best use you to further his kingdom (IOW, you asked him and he told you and you obeyed him). That's why we're all still here yet, because each of us has not yet fulfilled God's will for our lives. *Most ppl don't even know what their calling is! (because they don't ask)

Come out from among them and be separate; touch not the unclean thing.
 
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Rather, in the world but not of it.

None the less, Christians are to get out among the sinners to witness.


I declare here and now that the word “rapture” never appears in the Bible.

Er, we all know that already

It's better described as the catching away of the church


I hope you have an understanding, on whatever level, that you are under electromagnetic attack

Yeah, it's too bad you don't know the Lord is fully capable and willing to protect those from this world's garbage according to their faith. Those living in fear are not protected.


My "view point" counts for nada.

That would make you of no use to the Kingdom of God.

You should have accepted His Word, His viewpoint as your own by now and share with others

You gotta up your understanding of what it means to be born again and be IN Christ.
 

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Yeah, it's too bad you don't know the Lord is fully capable and willing to protect those from this world's garbage according to their faith. Those living in fear are not protected.
Yep, the Lord certainly is - "according to their faith." Touch not the unclean thing.

[My "view point" counts for nada.] That would make you of no use to the Kingdom of God.
By definition, integral to my "view point" is my flesh. You've never heard Jesus say, 'It is my view point...' Rather, he declared the truth - not as a politically correct wimp but in boldness.

You should have accepted His Word, His viewpoint as your own by now and share with others
Rather, go to him and not to men.

You gotta up your understanding of what it means to be born again and be IN Christ.
"Pray harder?"
 

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You've never heard Jesus say, 'It is my view point...' Rather, he declared the truth - not as a politically correct wimp but in boldness.

Yes, and that's what we are supposed to be doing.

Jesus is the model we are called to follow.


Rather, go to him and not to men.

He's not the one living in sin and is in need of salvation, men are.

You gotta get out amongst the sinners to witness to them.


"Pray harder?"

Take God's promises back to Him in prayer as in praying His Word:

Ephesians 1:16-23
Cease not to give thanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers;
That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:
The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,
And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power,
Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,
Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:
And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,
Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.
 

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No quotes from the Lord to share???
This 8-page thread, with 6,000+ hits, has plenty.

No applicable to me because I got thew Holy Ghost :dusted:
The phone is an accursed object (read the many doc's in this thread) that reminds me of Joshua 7. Achan was an Israelite of the tribe of Judah whose disobedience caused Israel's defeat (at the city of Ai - just coincidence). Because of the "accursed thing" hidden in Achan's tent during the conquest of Jericho, Israel couldn't stand before its enemies. So Achan, his family, and all his stuff were stoned and burned.

Folks don't understand the dynamics of spiritual warfare and don't discern the requirement for sanctification.

Americans check their phones 186 times a day. Meanwhile, among regular churchgoers, studies show that only about 30% read the Holy Bible daily, while another 30% read it a few times a week. Fewer than half of Americans (44%) say they pray each day.
 
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One can find something bad about everything in this world. This morning I had eggs for breakfast even though my daughter told me I am supporting animal cruelty. And I have a friend who won't drink coffee because it is a drug. And don't get me started on people who think a credit card is the mark of the beast! :clmSmlx
 

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among regular churchgoers, studies show that only about 30% read the Holy Bible daily, while another 30% read it a few times a week. Fewer than half of Americans (44%) say they pray each day.

And sadly the ones that do read the Bible read it like it's some sort of novel or story book and they get next to nothing out of it.

People need to learn to study topically rather then reading it like a story book.


This 8-page thread, with 6,000+ hits, has plenty.

So where is the Book of "Robert A. Heinlein"???

You using one of those new bible translations that adds stuff to the Bible?

Old Robert isn't an anointed New Testament writer so anything he says is meaningless





Yeah, we wait till you hear what they have planned for our toilets!

They learned that a large segment of the popular does not use ear buds but everyone sits on the pot so they working on that now!

If people don't like it, they can just hold it in. coffee-smiley.gif
 

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Ignorance is curable, stupid is forever. - Robert A. Heinlein
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So where is the Book of "Robert A. Heinlein"???
Just another sinner like us, in need of redemption.

You using one of those new bible translations that adds stuff to the Bible?
lol I "use" the Holy Bible from antiquity; it's not copyrighted.

Old Robert isn't an anointed New Testament writer so anything he says is meaningless
That's a non sequitur. Rather, God didn't inspire men; he inspired his word.
 

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They still sell cigarettes that they KNOW are killers, so? What would they do about cell phones? ZERO maybe? Small children have their own phones now. Kids are online and in contact with sex traffickers. This world is doomed. Only Jesus can help!
 
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