Charismatic Bible Studies - 2 Peter 1:5-11

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rebuilder 454

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This is simply not true. Knowing we are forever reborn leads us to live pure lives. This is exactly opposite to your assertion. Which is real? The Bible.

1 John 3:1-3 KJV
1) Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
2) Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
3) And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.

Clear and plainly stated Scripture. If you think anything in the Bible contradicts this, I counsel to re-examine the Scriptures.

Much love!
Jesus said " if you deny me before men, I will deny you before my Father"

In osas you could recant your testimony and deny Jesus, because no sin can separate you from God.

IOW, All martyrs for 2000 years died for nothing, not knowing that their salvation was secure anyway. THEY COULD HAVE DENIED JESUS WITH A CLEAR CONSCIOUS.
 
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Luke 15
11 And he said, A certain man had two sons:

12 And the younger of them said to his father, Father, give me the portion of goods that falleth to me. And he divided unto them his living.

13 And not many days after the younger son gathered all together, and took his journey into a far country, and there wasted his substance with riotous living.

14 And when he had spent all, there arose a mighty famine in that land; and he began to be in want.

15 And he went and joined himself to a citizen of that country; and he sent him into his fields to feed swine.

16 And he would fain have filled his belly with the husks that the swine did eat: and no man gave unto him.

17 And when he came to himself, he said, How many hired servants of my father's have bread enough and to spare, and I perish with hunger!

18 I will arise and go to my father, and will say unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and before thee,

19 And am no more worthy to be called thy son: make me as one of thy hired servants.

20 And he arose, and came to his father. But when he was yet a great way off, his father saw him, and had compassion, and ran, and fell on his neck, and kissed him.

21 And the son said unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and in thy sight, and am no more worthy to be called thy son.
22 But the father said to his servants, Bring forth the best robe, and put it on him; and put a ring on his hand, and shoes on his feet:

23 And bring hither the fatted calf, and kill it; and let us eat, and be merry:

24 For this my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found. And they began to be merry.

25 Now his elder son was in the field: and as he came and drew nigh to the house, he heard musick and dancing.

26 And he called one of the servants, and asked what these things meant.

27 And he said unto him, Thy brother is come; and thy father hath killed the fatted calf, because he hath received him safe and sound.

28 And he was angry, and would not go in: therefore came his father out, and intreated him
29 And he answering said to his father, Lo, these many years do I serve thee, neither transgressed I at any time thy commandment: and yet thou never gavest me a kid, that I might make merry with my friends:

30 But as soon as this thy son was come, which hath devoured thy living with harlots, thou hast killed for him the fatted calf.

31 And he said unto him, Son, thou art ever with me, and all that I have is thine.

32 It was meet that we should make merry, and be glad: for this thy brother was dead, and is alive again; and was lost, and is found.


The story of a son ( born again, family, and with the father)
DECIDES TO DEPART.
Result as Paul put it, is shipwrecked.
FATHER does not go after him, or contact him.
Father says his son is dead.
Son that departed FROM THE FATHER, returns.
REPENTS, AND IS RESTORED BACK TO his Father.

In direct blatant conflict with osas.
We need osas spin on the prodigal.
Anyone?
 

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Are you concerned that you may do that? Deny Christ? Why or why not?

Much love!
Only a fool would deny Christ.
Unless you thought it was no big deal like osas teaches.
( you can deny Christ under osas and still be 100% secure ) rolleyes.
 

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Only a fool would deny Christ.
Unless you thought it was no big deal like osas teaches.
( you can deny Christ under osas and still be 100% secure ) rolleyes.
So . . . do you consider yourself someone who would absolutely never deny Christ? Please, I'm asking for a serious reason.

I consider myself to be someone who would never deny Christ, I pray God gives grace should that day come that it may be so! But I cannot imagine otherwise.

Yes, only the fool would deny Christ, which is what makes someone a fool. Someone who denies God to his own hurt.

Is it the strength of your will that would be your basis to not deny Christ? If not, what else would it be?

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IOW, All martyrs for 2000 years died for nothing, not knowing that their salvation was secure anyway. THEY COULD HAVE DENIED JESUS WITH A CLEAR CONSCIOUS.
It's not about mandates, it's about love. We don't "not deny" Jesus on threat of "spiritual death", but because we love Him.

Who loves more? The one forgiven more. Who loves less? The one who is forgiven less. Who sees themself forgiven more, and so loves more?

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Are you concerned that you may do that? Deny Christ? Why or why not?

Much love!
SO then WHY are so many who cliam to BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST
being a co helper to that which is of anti christ . INTERFAITH INTERRELIGIOUS dialgoue .
Seems as though many are not truly of us . And to those who might be being influenced
to be a co helper , WELL ITS WHY I WARN and REMIND ALL to have no part IN that anti christ mess
of what IT cliams can usher in world peace and peace in the middle east .
THIS generation IS BEING SET UP big time .
 
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In osas you could recant your testimony and deny Jesus, because no sin can separate you from God.
THIS generation IS BEING SET UP big time .
Always good to hear from you, Brother

Love, Walter And Debbie
3 Remember therefore how you have received and heard; hold fast and repent. Therefore if you will not watch, I will come upon you as a thief, and you will not know what hour I will come upon you.
Eternal Life, is to be born again, and Eternal life is not Temporary.
Matthew 6:33 But seek you first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

what are “these things shall be added unto you”? Could it be those things listed in 2 Peter 1:5-7? Then it is God who adds them unto you..
Salutation HIH….You out did yourself.
1. What thoughts do you remember having as you were reading through this study? Do you recall anything in particular standing out in your thinking.

I think you did a great job on several topics.

Greetings all!

Just a reminder that there are other studies in the series if anyone wants to participate. Just posted a new one today.

 
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SO then WHY are so many who cliam to BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST
being a co helper to that which is of anti christ . INTERFAITH INTERRELIGIOUS dialgoue .
Seems as though many are not truly of us . And to those who might be being influenced
to be a co helper , WELL ITS WHY I WARN and REMIND ALL to have no part IN that anti christ mess
of what IT cliams can usher in world peace and peace in the middle east .
THIS generation IS BEING SET UP big time .
@amigo de christo
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