Christianity is NOT Derived From Judaism

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Rhetro

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My my how faulty of a premise you chose to speak.

Check your heart today, it just took a wrong turn.
That’s not an argument.

Did the Bible fall out of the sky? Who decided the list of books of the Bible?
 

amigo de christo

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Alternately, he could double down and re-quote the same text with the same deceptive modification.

Also, not enjoying his weird quasi-sexual insults. I think I might be out on this one.
When folks cling to either politics and religion , friend it never bodes well .
As for me i shall cling to CHRIST and remain diligent n the scriptures .
 

amigo de christo

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How is it that you do not know?
Many there are my friend . Men gonna do and men gonna beleive as they beleive and love as they love
and hope as they h ope .
Sheep Gonna Follow Christ believing all things in the scriptures and testing all men against the scriptures .
When men cling to institutions , or politicians , or etc
Their trust is in men . Any institution is capable of starting out good and ending up worse and worse .
This people trusts in what they call the church , far more than the one true GOD , HIS CHRIST and his words .
Tis why when their leaders change things , they often just go with the flow .
YES , even the greek orthodox , IT AINT so orthodox my friend .
They are an off shoot of the same RCC they divided out from in the great schism .
The RCC was heavy on the crusades and that was the last straw that made the eastern greek orthodox to remain .
Friend the error of the RCC was long before that date .
I seen it as far back as when constantine was about and probably before even that .
The kicker is , they split
but if we aint a part and we split from error , its the same accusation that we are not in the true church .
JW , RCC , greek orthodox and others literally have no idea .
THEY TRUST IN AN INSTIUTION they BELIEVE is the CHURCH
but upon simple examination had , the errors are there for all to see .
Even a normal church can start out good and in time can go down hill .
The problem with man , has always been man . THERE is no man that is infallible
and there is no instituion of men that is
infallible either . EVEN paul warned men would come in and make desciples of men .
These people trust in THEIR SYSTEM . ME i TRUST IN GOD , IN CHRIST , and in that BIBLE I WILL remain
and be testing all men against what is written . I suggest all do the same .
 
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amigo de christo

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How is it that you do not know?
He done bought the bait .
So allow me some words .
WHO faithfully recorded torah and would later
copy and recopy torah and the prophets . WHY THE JEWISH scribes did .
But tell me WAS GOD well pleased with them religious leaders .
NO sir .
This man acts like just cause somone gave us a bible
it means automatically the instituion and its leaders are THE TRUE leaders .
NO sir . Not by a long shot is that mindset true .
God allowed men to put together the scrips . IT dont mean TRUST THOU in such men
and etc . Even joel osteen can say THIS is the bible and etc
BUT DO HE HEED IT . NO SIR .
NOR D OES THE RCC . NOR does teh GREEK orthodox and scores of others .
I see much they twisted and even brought in blasphemous things .
But they want me to call that THE CHURCH . nope .
THIS is the church . Every sheep , whether jew or gentile WHO beleives on JESUS .
Institutions often fall into deep leaven . Its not the instituion we trust .
ITS GOD , HIS CHRIST and oh yeah we staying GLUED to the scriptures .
 
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Davy

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More anti-semitism. Jesus was born a Jew under the law and is the Jewish Messiah. There is no evidence he ever stopped being Jewish.

John 4:22 salvation is from the Jews.

You obviously don't understand your Old Testament history about the tribe of Judah and the Jews.

When Lord Jesus said that in John 4:22, He was referring to TRUE JEWS OF THE SEED OF ISRAEL. The word Jew originally came from the name of the tribe of Judah. Those are who it first pointed to in God's Word.

BUT LATER... foreigners began to creep in among the Jews (tribe of Judah), like the CANAANITES and IDUMEANS OF ESAU, and KENITES OF CANAAN. And they also... took the name Jew, even though they were NOT of the seed of the tribe of Judah.

The scribes who were with the Pharisees that followed Jesus around seeking to accuse Him, were FOREIGNERS of the Kenite peoples of the land of Canaan (1 Chronicles 2:55; Genesis 15:19). They claimed... to be Jews, but were not. And they were in charge of keeping the letters of God's written Word from generation to generation.

Same thing with the Canaanite bondservants which Israel was not able to destroy per God's commandment when they entered into the land. Those bondservants worked their way into the temple and into the priesthood. They also claimed to be JEWS and would become the main religious leaders of Israel.

Thus the title of JEW eventually began to be used simply for those who followed the Jew's religion, which began to creep in when those false Jews began creeping into the priesthood and scribe position, and sitting in Moses' seat of the law.

Matt 23:2
2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
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This means...

1. there are TRUE JEWS OF THE SEED
2. and there are FALSE JEWS NOT OF THE SEED OF ISRAEL

In Revelation 2:9 and Revelation 3:9, Lord Jesus remarked about those Jews of the "synagogue of Satan" who CLAIM TO BE JEWS, but are NOT.

Lord Jesus Christ was born a Jew of the SEED OF THE TRIBE OF JUDAH. That means a TRUE JEW OF THE SEED.

Jesus said He has told us all things. This matter is written of throughout His Word, but your most likely not going to hear about it in today's Churches. Preachers coming out of seminary are taught to stay away from any Biblical topic that may seem controversial. This matter isn't controversial, it is God's Word as written. And that's why I teach it, and I am not a pastor, not at least in the eyes of this world.
 

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None of that matters. If you're worshipping the Jewish God and following a Jewish Messiah and reading the Hebrew scriptures and practicing sacraments derived from Jewish rituals, your religion is derived from Judaism. That is a historical fact, and nothing changes it.

Do you think you're too good to associate with those sinners and tax collectors like the Jews? You're doing just what they did. Jesus showed you a better way. Now stop it. Repent of your pride and your prejudices!

I have friends that are TRUE JEWS OF THE SEED OF ISRAEL. So you just don't know what the heck you are talking about.

But I will NOT hang out with the FALSE JEWS who lie, and CLAIM TO BE JEWS, WHO CLAIM JUDAISM IS NOT FULL OF CORRUPT TRADITIONS OF MEN LIKE JESUS SHOWED.