pssst those who are truly saved is THE CHURCH..we have to live it salt and light...
"Christians don't know what they believe." - until they are brainwashed
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Truly saved? As opposed to what?
Yes, salt and light. Preserving and illuminating. But...
It seems we are more interested in rubbing salt into wounds and blinding people with glaring interrogation.
Not really very attractive.
How can the church become the ekklesia that it should be?
From you, probably not.
You have clearly proven that isn't true.
Don't blame me. YOU said it.
Simple.
Jude 1:22-23
22 And on some have compassion, making a distinction;
23 but others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire,
My, my...
You're a real piece of work.
You badger me to tell you who my "god" is.
But agree that no answer I provide would be acceptable to you.
And then claim you are trying to save me from hell.
The only hell in this equation is your behavior.
Just a Bible believer.
Asking who your god is is 'badgering' you? Wow!
No answer? You haven't given an answer. lol
Defending the Bible is Hell now? Honestly, you sound like you're trying to go to Hell.
So tell us, who is your god? Do you have a god? Why are you in a Christian Forum attacking the Bible? Don't you have anything else to do?
No clear answers expected!
who is your god mine is God the God of abrham Issac and Jacob the God that sent his only son to the cross
Ziggy
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First you have to remove the tares before you can put the wheat in the barn.
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Do you believe that the Church of today is the Body of Christ as taught by only Paul ?
And that the Gospel today is My Gospel as taught by Christ initially (Gal 1v11-12) to only Paul who then later revealed it to Peter etc Gal 2v2
I think Jesus said the tares would be in the church until the judgement day.
It seems that we need to live with that. (sigh)
if the true CHURCH IS NOT THE BODY OF Christ AS TAUGHT BY PAUL .. THEN WE ARE NOT A MEMBER OF THE body OF Christ WHICH MEANS WE ARE lost
Ziggy
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Who are the reapers with the sickles?
Mat 13:30
Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
Mat 13:39
The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
Mat 13:49
So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,
Severed:
Exo 8:22
And I will sever in that day the land of Goshen, in which my people dwell, that no swarms of flies shall be there; to the end thou mayest know that I am the LORD in the midst of the earth.
Exo 9:4
And the LORD shall sever between the cattle of Israel and the cattle of Egypt: and there shall nothing die of all that is the children's of Israel.
swarms of flies..
Psa 78:45
He sent divers sorts of flies among them, which devoured them; and frogs, which destroyed them.
Ecc 10:1
Dead flies cause the ointment of the apothecary to send forth a stinking savour: so doth a little folly him that is in reputation for wisdom and honour.
Folly
2Ti 3:8
Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
2Ti 3:9
But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.
Flies and Folly.
The great divide.
Just thinking
Hugs
This verse below says the devil placed them there.
I wonder if we can identify them as well?
(pretty sure I have met a few)
They seem to be stalking me. - LOL
Mat 13:39
The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
You conveniently let this part out STV:
Matthew 13:41-42
41 The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and those who practice lawlessness, 42 and will cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Ziggy
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Rom 9:17
For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.
1Jo 3:8
He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
Rom 9:21
Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
2Ti 2:20
But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.
Mat 5:43
Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
Mat 5:44
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
Mat 5:45
That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
Ecc 3:1
To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
Sometimes it's hard to see the long game.
Hugs
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