Circumcision Without Hands

[Ritajanice]

Having the wrong mind, wrong faith, bad theology, grieves the Holy Spirit.

Hi Behold ,me again, lol....what do you mean when you say, they have the wrong faith?

 

[1stCenturyLady]

1.) Grieving the Holy Spirit, is not the unpardonable sin, nor will it cause you to lose your salvation.

The verse says the Spirit can be grieved. It does not teach that the Spirit can be lost or cast out or throw away, etc.

Also, "walking in the spirit" is not to walk around, mind turned off, speaking in a prayer language.

Walking in the Spirit, is to STAY THERE..

Where is it?

Its in your Faith...as when you have correct faith, you have the right MIND, and this is "as many as be perfect".

Having the wrong mind, wrong faith, bad theology, grieves the Holy Spirit.

I didn't say that.

I can speak in tongues, but don't because I'm always Listening for His voice. He speaks to me everyday as I write my books.

 

[Johann]

Then don't call yourself a "reformed" Baptist. That's Calvinism.

I said I "lean" towards Reformed Baptist since you can find solid truth there, especially on the major doctrines-and everyone with discernment can discern error from truth--eat the chicken, spit out the bones.
And to be blunt-I don't know you from a bar of soap-so when you say you can "hear" God's voice "clearly"-all alarm bells are going off.

Chaverim, do not believe every ruach. [YIRMEYAH 29:8] But test the ruchot (spirits), if they be of Hashem, because many nevi'ei sheker have gone out into the Olam Hazeh.

But I do agree re the Luke warmness, especially in the West.

1Co_3:10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.

1Co_3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

1Co_3:12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;

Eph_1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

Eph_2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

1Ti_6:19 Laying up in store for themselves a good foundation against the time to come, that they may lay hold on eternal life.

2Ti_2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

You have a blessed day.
Johann.

 

[1stCenturyLady]

Hi Behold ,me again, lol....what do you mean when you say, they have the wrong faith?

My 2 cents inserted here, it is doctrines of demons that much of the Church believes in. Behold is against those too. But you have to know the real gospel of POWER to know the difference. Those doctrines of demons produce Defeatism, or even a license to sin.

 

[Ritajanice]

I can speak in tongues, but don't because I'm always Listening for His voice. He speaks to me everyday as I write my books.

I speak in tongues as well, ...I understand when you say he speaks to you everyday....how do you hear his voice?

 

[Behold]

Hi Behold ,me again, lol....what do you mean when you say, they have the wrong faith?

1.) "Fallen from Grace"

Paul teaches.>>..

"O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
""" Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the FLESH < (self effort)(self saving)= Broken Faith.

Paul is saying.. "you started out by faith, and now you are trying to stay saved by works".

This.. :
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Lets say a person is born again.... Not just water baptized and religious.

This person then, heard that Jesus died for their sin, and they are a sinner needing to be saved.
They heard this "Gospel"... as "faith comes by hearing"...... and they BELIEVED.... and God accepted their faith, and gave them Salvation, which is forgiveness of sin and eternal life. = Born again. 'Made righteous".. "one with God"..."in Christ".

How then is it, that a sinner, who knows nothing about the bible.......no theology......came to God, in Faith, and 2 yrs later, is teaching...>"you have to do works to stay saved"... "you have to not willfully sin to stay saved".... 'you must now keep the Law"... "you must now keep the commandments to go to heaven"...

You have to ....."do.....do......do......do.......do.......do.......do.......do, to stay saved.

Yet, the day they went to the Cross and met Jesus, they were happy, and knew they were going to heaven....and they were RIGHT.
So, how did they FALL from that knowing......into......>>SELF SAVING Deception, that they are now TEACHING?
How do they go from....."thank you Jesus for saving me".........to now be found on a Forum teaching..>"now here is what you have to do to be saved and stay saved" and they never mention THE CROSS in 1000 posts and 100 Threads.

How did that happen to them?

= THE DEVIL.

That's how..... = He came to them using a person, a commentary, John Calvin... a church, a Pope,... a CULT..... and stripped them of Fatih in Jesus, and now has them up on the Cross of their own Self Righteousness, trying to stay saved., and that is what they TEACH you to do.

This is a DARK LIGHT........ LUKE 11:35

Now.....See this verse?

Hebrews 13:9...

This verse explains how that happened, and how to prevent it., And its shows you what will happen to you, if you dont do what it says to do with your HEART OF FAITH.

 

[Behold]

. Behold is against those too.

You have to stop lying.

RitaJanice is going to find out about you, 1stCenturyLady.

So, its best that you stop lying now, about me....

You really do need to get your head together.

 

[Ritajanice]

My 2 cents inserted here, it is doctrines of demons that much of the Church believes in. Behold is against those too. But you have to know the real gospel of POWER to know the difference. Those doctrines of demons produce Defeatism, or even a license to sin.

A doctrine of demons...wow!...thankfully I have been birthed in the Spirit.so, that wouldn’t apply to me...

Absolutely you have to know the real Gospel of POWER..which can only come from the living word of God.

 

[1stCenturyLady]

I said I "lean" towards Reformed Baptist since you can find solid truth there, especially on the major doctrines-and everyone with discernment can discern error from truth--eat the chicken, spit out the bones.
And to be blunt-I don't know you from a bar of soap-so when you say you can "hear" God's voice "clearly"-all alarm bells are going off.

Chaverim, do not believe every ruach. [YIRMEYAH 29:8] But test the ruchot (spirits), if they be of Hashem, because many nevi'ei sheker have gone out into the Olam Hazeh.

But I do agree re the Luke warmness, especially in the West.

1Co_3:10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.

1Co_3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

1Co_3:12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;

Eph_1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

Eph_2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

1Ti_6:19 Laying up in store for themselves a good foundation against the time to come, that they may lay hold on eternal life.

2Ti_2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

You have a blessed day.
Johann.

I was raised a Cessationist, so I know why your alarm bells went off. But one day while reading 1 Corinthians 13 it became clear. And 46 years later, clearer still. Most of the Church does not believe in the New Covenant of the ministry of the Spirit, only Jesus. They are not even born again, a MUST for salvation. See why I'm afraid for the Church? Doctrines of demons preach the opposite of the New Covenant and what Jesus accomplished on the cross.

 

[Ritajanice]

1.) "Fallen from Grace"

Paul teaches.>>..

"O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
""" Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the FLESH < (self effort)(self saving)= Broken Faith.

Paul is saying.. "you started out by faith, and now you are trying to stay saved by works".

This.. :
-
-
Lets say a person is born again.... Not just water baptized and religious.

This person then, heard that Jesus died for their sin, and they are a sinner needing to be saved.
They heard this "Gospel"... as "faith comes by hearing"...... and they BELIEVED.... and God accepted their faith, and gave them Salvation, which is forgiveness of sin and eternal life. = Born again. 'Made righteous".. "one with God"..."in Christ".

How then is it, that a sinner, who knows nothing about the bible.......no theology......came to God, in Faith, and 2 yrs later, is teaching...>"you have to do works to stay saved"... "you have to not willfully sin to stay saved".... 'you must now keep the Law"... "you must now keep the commandments to go to heaven"...

You have to ....."do.....do......do......do.......do.......do.......do.......do, to stay saved.

Yet, the day they went to the Cross and met Jesus, they were happy, and knew they were going to heaven....and they were RIGHT.
So, how did they FALL from that knowing......into......>>SELF SAVING Deception, that they are now TEACHING?
How do they go from....."thank you Jesus for saving me".........to now be found on a Forum teaching..>"now here is what you have to do to be saved and stay saved" and they never mention THE CROSS in 1000 posts and 100 Threads.

How did that happen to them?

= THE DEVIL.

That's how..... = He came to them using a person, a commentary, John Calvin... a church, a Pope,... a CULT..... and stripped them of Fatih in Jesus, and now has them up on the Cross of their own Self Righteousness, trying to stay saved., and that is what they TEACH you to do.

This is a DARK LIGHT........ LUKE 11:35

Now.....See this verse?

Hebrews 13:9...

This verse explains how that happened, and how to prevent it., And its shows you what will happen to you, if you dont do what it says to do with your HEART OF FAITH.

Yep..understand this Brother...look what I did when I was a very new babe...I thought I had to be perfect like Jesus..so, what did I do...worked at trying to be like Jesus, it nearly killed me Brother.....

 

[1stCenturyLady]

A doctrine of demons...wow!...thankfully I have been birthed in the Spirit.so, that wouldn’t apply to me...

Absolutely you have to know the real Gospel of POWER..which can only come from the living word of God.

16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek. 17 For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, “The just shall live by faith.”

2 Grace and peace be multiplied to you in the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord, 3 as His divine power has given to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of Him who called us by glory and virtue, 4 by which have been given to us exceedingly great and precious promises, that through these you may be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

 

[Ritajanice]

. They are not even born again, a MUST for salvation

Amen!...we must be born again.

 

[1stCenturyLady]

Yep..understand this Brother...look what I did when I was a very new babe...I thought I had to be perfect like Jesus..so, what did I do...worked at trying to be like Jesus, it nearly killed me Brother.....

Jesus is the Author and Finisher of our faith. Read this part again: 17 For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, “The just shall live by faith.”

The Spirit of Christ is the one who writes the laws of God on our conscience, and more as we grow. All we have to do is never do anything against our conscience. Jesus said, "My yoke is easy and my burden is light." Easy, peasy!

 

[1stCenturyLady]

Amen!...we must be born again.

I go to bed with a clear conscience every night and all my prayers are answered.

21 Beloved, if our heart does not condemn us, we have confidence toward God. 22 And whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do those things that are pleasing in His sight.

 

[Behold]

I go to bed with a clear conscience every night and all my prayers are answered.

If that is true....if "all" your prayers are answered, 1stCenturyLady...

Then pray right now that God will send Jesus back today.

Let see your prayers answered, as you just said, ":::they are all answered.""

 

[Ritajanice]

I go to bed with a clear conscience every night and all my prayers are answered.

Amen!!...me too.....Praise God.

 

[Behold]

Yep..understand this Brother...look what I did when I was a very new babe...I thought I had to be perfect like Jesus..so, what did I do...worked at trying to be like Jesus, it nearly killed me Brother.....

Yes,

We all have had that struggle, who are real, and many that are not born again, are doing that right now.
We all try to Do Christianity and can't and can't understand the problem.
Some are still in that mind, and live on forums trying to keep you in that struggle.

1stCenturyLady will eventually try to prove to you that you're salvation can be lost.
This usually takes about 5 mins after she meets a "new one'.
It could be that she wont try to make you believe that for another 5 or 10 minutes.
(cross your fingers).

 

[Ritajanice]

@1stCenturyLady ..I meant I go to bed with a clear conscience.

As for prayers, I have been waiting over 30 yrs for a very important prayer to be answered.....God showed me his will ,it’s in my heart and there it has remained...it’s a long story...he brought me back to it just over 3 yrs ago...I may be able to share it one day, when it comes to fruition..

I also waited 20yrs for a prayer to be answered... God brought my eldest son back to me and I will be meeting him and my grandchildren for the first time...Praise God!

 

[Ritajanice]

Yes,

We all have had that struggle, who are real, and many that are not born again, are doing that right now.
We all try to Do Christianity and can't and can't understand the problem.
Some are still in that mind, and live on forums trying to keep you in it.

1stCenturyLady will eventually try to prove to you that you're salvation can be lost.
This usually takes about 5 mins after she meets a "new one'.
It could be that she wont try to make you believe that for another 5 or 10 minutes.

Brother, you know I only follow your teaching...I know you have been anointed by God ...he speaks to my spirit through you...in Jesus Name....Amen.....Praise God for you.

 

[Behold]

@1stCenturyLady ..I meant I go to bed with a clear conscience.

As for prayers, I have been waiting over 30 yrs for a very important prayer to be answered.

I also waited 20yrs for a prayer to be answered... God brought my eldest son back to me and I will be meeting him and my grandchildren for the first time...Praise God!

Wonderful News.

God is really good at RESTORATION....

Depending on how confused the situation is.... it can take Him a while to organize the circumstances....but, im sure you know all about that.....