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Discussion in 'Current Events & Politics Forum' started by aspen, Feb 13, 2019.

  1. aspen

    aspen “"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few

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    18 million trees died in California in 2018 — CNN

    18 million trees died in California last year. The Bible remembers the cedars of Lebanon. California is going to look like Israel in the next decade and it is our fault - whether or not you believe in the science behind global warming we have failed as stewards of this planet.
     
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    Acolyte Well-Known Member

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    You are right about us failing.. but, the ice caps have been melting since the last ice age. Right now ecology wise, we should be doing something about Fukushema. It's sitting there dumping nuclear waste into the ocean, land and air and no one is doing anything. When Chernobyl(?) had it's accident the whole world seemed ready willing and able to step in trying to help.
    The polluted water from this runs right up to Alaska, the air heads towards the US and gets into the jet stream. Sometimes I jokingly say that's what is wrong with the people in California.. not really funny though.
    I searched for awhile to see if this could possibly be Wormwood.. no conclusion.. and Father help us, no solution.
     
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    farouk Well-Known Member

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    The politicians want the people to endorse higher taxes and more bureaucracy; and the religious world system wants people's focus to be away from the Biblical Gospel.
     
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    APAK Well-Known Member

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    Well to be fair @aspen , those millions of trees that have died in CA last years and years before that for many decades, are not caused by natural climate changes. Poor human decisions and intrusions mostly made this happen. It has been many decades of neglect by the leadership in CA. They have deliberately paid little attention and provided resources in preventing forest and field fires. Like trimming the lower limbs and parts of trees and cutting down the ‘dead’ wood for starters.

    Also implicated in this plot is the increase in homes and man-made structures within these green areas. Lack of good roads to fire fires etc.

    The Santa Ana winds have been blowing over the CA mountains well before Christ was born, with the same patterns and intensity.

    Also, there is no legitimate science behind global warming DUE to the carbon footprint of men. Changes to the earth have always been cause by physical changes and effects of the earth, its spin, from the Sun, its solar winds, the moon and other space effects. For the last 30 years when ‘political correctness’ was officially born, politicians and globalists suddenly become the scientists and astrophysics of natural phenomena – which would be a joke if not seriously true. These folks will keep pounding this nonsense home until all pay carbon taxes and fees, and the green parties of the world join forces with extreme and radical socialists. This is the way things are going anyway, even in North America.

    Bless you,

    APAK
     
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    Lol
     
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    APAK Well-Known Member

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    So I presume you have some legitimate true science available concerning the effects of an individual citizen, breathing in O2 and exhaling CO2 and other gases, and even the science behind how human organizations that produce pollution causes, quote unquote, 'climate change' then? If so, then share the data or link. Don't keep it to yourself, share it.

    APAK
     
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    Well obviously if we burned every hydrocarbon on the planet at once we would all choke to death on the fumes APAK, wadr I'm not too interested in belaboring the obvious. We can measure the diff in carbon molecules now also, but really our CO2 rise is not going vertical in a vacuum ok, we know that burning hydros adds stress. Prolly pales next to all the methane from beef production anyway, dunno. What I do know is that ppl who wanna put gas in their cars are going to justify it any kind of way possible,right
     
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    APAK Well-Known Member

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    I believe what you are speaking about here is the unnecessary pollution that has causes cancers and other harm to humans. Unfortunately, your type of conversation here, has been deliberately elevated to say by those is power, and without substance or good reason, that this is the cause of global climate change. Now that is a giant leap and dead wrong. The goal of these shifty characters again is purely a political one and for power. Any excuse that can anecdotally show that pollution, any source, including CO2 emission outputs = 'global climate change' is sufficient for these crooks to convince the ignorant masses, we need to pay carbon taxes etc. Like those in favor of gun control....they say less guns in the hands of any citizen = less lawlessness and safer communities for the globe..... and of course this is a lie, although appealing to many ignorance thoughtless people.

    APAK
     
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    wadr imo "any excuse" is better realized at "to fill up my car" for the established profit-makers over any nebulous supposed winner in "carbon-tax," which shouldn't that be the nation anyway? Who collects these carbon taxes? exactly, see. Let's not forget that what we actually have is the opposite, right, "carbon subsidies." Gone wild, no less
     
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    Yes, agree man has failed in the stewardship of the planet...but there again...fallen man can only produce fallen stuff..."seed begats seed".

    No wonder you are 'left' and hate Trump if you trust CNN :D
    I just couldn't resist that one Ron ...:p

    As for "Global warming"...you know me...the whole thing is a hoax and a controlling money making thing...rules, regulations, adding taxes etc etc...
     
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    Plus @aspen If California hadn't been so stupid and banned people for cutting and thinning the trees , they would have been healthier and also not such a fire hazard.

    Very close friends of ours lost their beautiful house in Paradise Cal. in five mins...they managed to get out in time...their son called them and said " Get out now"...our friend said " Okay, we'll grab a shower and leave." (Over the last five years they had been threatened by fire a number of times...)

    Paul said " NO dad...get out NOW"
    They were bumper to bumper trying to escape it.

    Their house was GONE...beautiful garden GONE..their bank gone, doctors offices gone, gas station gone, restaurants gone, their Insurance company GONE!!! They only had what they stood up in.

    All because they were not allowed to thin the trees...and over the years the forrest was up to everyones houses...

    So sad...so avoidable ...laws, control, and stupidity of man.
     
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  13. aspen

    aspen “"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few

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    The only reason huh?
     
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    More LEFT LIBERAL BALONEY. The Leftists all try to be very virtuous about their concern for the planet until it is time for them to hop into their private jets (polluting the atmosphere) and fly around the world to attend globalist meetings, which are all about making money off climate change.

    Barack Obama, Al Gore and their ilk have been promoting the ABSURD idea that climate change is the greatest threat to national security.
    All the while weakening America and encouraging its enemies to get stronger and bolder. Who could have imagined that this traitor could get away with his nonsense, but he did. He even got a phony Nobel Prize for being black and spouting nonsense!

    As a Christian you should be the first one to recognize this globalist agenda as PURELY SATANIC. There is absolutely no concern for the salvation of souls, but there is a phony concern for the salvation of the planet, which you should know is doomed to a total destruction by supernatural fire in the relatively near future.
     
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    I would change "man" to California, they are a special kind of stupid.
     
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    aspen “"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few

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    Beloney isn’t good for your health or the planet..
     
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    Enoch111 Well-Known Member

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    Right. That's why we need and end to Left-Liberal Baloney. Which is actually INSANITY.
     
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  18. aspen

    aspen “"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few

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    Oh the drama....
     
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    But it sure is tasty.
     
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    The late Chancellor Helmut Schmidt - who since 1982 was not looking to get re-elected, but instead spoke his mind eloquently on a whole range of issues as a newspaper publisher - was not convinced about the climate change / global warming discourse (which only seemed to come to the fore after the fall of the Berlin Wall).
     
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