Co- Redemptrix

[Rollo Tamasi]

ha, and you call yourself a Christian, right

I at least express myself so that people can understand me.
You've never made any sense since I've been here.
Now does that make me a bad Christian because I just told you the truth?

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

That's funny, because I've met PLENTY if ignorant anti-Catholics like YOU who can never seem to respond intelligently.
You make my job so much easier . . .

Oh, do I hear something?
Oh, it's just a fly on the wall......

 

[BreadOfLife]

Oh, do I hear something?
Oh, it's just a fly on the wall......

No - it's an educated Catholic that you can't refute.

Do your homework . . .

 

[amadeus]

You spoke of my being disdainful with people who "disagree" with me - and that is a big, fat lie.

I have stated repeatedly that I don't care if somebody simply disagrees with me.
What I have absolutely ZERO tolerance for are lies about what the Church believes and teaches.

I have ALSO stated that I won't go after anybody who doesn't lie - so get your story straight, my sanctimonious friend.

Your spirit rather than the Holy Spirit is in most of your posted words. That much is evident to others even if you are either unable to see it or unwilling to consider it. You say you don't care if someone disagrees, but it is obvious [again to most people who read your posts on this forum] by many of your responses that you do care. Where is the truth on your part?

You are defending yourself as much or more than you are defending your church. That is my opinion. I already know your opinion.

Have a happy New Year!

 

[BreadOfLife]

Your spirit rather than the Holy Spirit is in most of your posted words. That much is evident to others even if you are either unable to see it or unwilling to consider it. You say you don't care if someone disagrees, but it is obvious [again to most people who read your posts on this forum] by many of your responses that you do care. Where is the truth on your part?

You are defending yourself as much or more than you are defending your church. That is my opinion. I already know your opinion.

Have a happy New Year!

Wrong.

I really don't care if somebody disagrees with me. I don't argue with people who simply "disagree".
I only expose people who misrepresent Catholic teaching - and there are PLENTY of you here that do this.

BIG difference.

 

[bbyrd009]

I at least express myself so that people can understand me.

and i have no desire to modify your behavior, that was not the point, see

You've never made any sense since I've been here.
Now does that make me a bad Christian because I just told you the truth?

ha why do you assume that that is truth, it is a lie the way you phrased it, see, to some ppl at least.

good Christian, bad Christian, imo these are also prevarications, even if unintended
if there was ever a single "bad" Christian, then i am not interested in being one iow.

 

[amadeus]

Wrong.

I really don't care if somebody disagrees with me. I don't argue with people who simply "disagree".
I only expose people who misrepresent Catholic teaching - and there are PLENTY of you here that do this.

BIG difference.

Well anyway, Happy New Year!

 

[BreadOfLife]

Well anyway, Happy New Year!

Happy New Year to you, too.

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

I

Wrong.

I really don't care if somebody disagrees with me. I don't argue with people who simply "disagree".
I only expose people who misrepresent Catholic teaching - and there are PLENTY of you here that do this.

BIG difference.

I simply disagree because you don't know what you are talking about.

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

and i have no desire to modify your behavior, that was not the point, see
ha why do you assume that that is truth, it is a lie the way you phrased it, see, to some ppl at least.

good Christian, bad Christian, imo these are also prevarications, even if unintended
if there was ever a single "bad" Christian, then i am not interested in being one iow.

You're pretty good at hiding behind your words.
I'm just waiting for some Christian edification to come out of you and I'll be satisfied.

 

[BreadOfLife]

I simply disagree because you don't know what you are talking about.

Wrong.

You don't simply "disagree".
You gave us an entire LIST of lies and misrepresentations - which I destroyed in post #254.

You have YET to respond because you can't . . .

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

Wrong.

You don't simply "disagree".
You gave us an entire LIST of lies and misrepresentations - which I destroyed in post #254.

You have YET to respond because you can't . . .

That's what really bothers you, doesn't it?
When someone figures out that ignoring you is the best weapon against you.
Don't jump in the fish bowl tonight.
They may not be catholics.

 

[BreadOfLife]

That's what really bothers you, doesn't it?
When someone figures out that ignoring you is the best weapon against you.
Don't jump in the fish bowl tonight.
They may not be catholics.

Doesn't "bother" me at all.
You may as well be holding a big sign that says: "I stuck my foot in my mouth and can't get it out."

My job is made that much easier when ignorant anti-Catholics like you don't respond.
Thanks!

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

I think this thread is really about Mary, and how most Christians don't worship her like catholics do.
I think Mary would cry if she knew that people chose to worship her instead of her son.
People call her co-redemtrix, and Jesus is left out, and the Holy Spirit, which so called Christians have reduced down to an "it", is also left out of the picture.
And this whole problem is based on catholics and their quest to control the world.

 

[GodsGrace]

First of all - you just lied again. I have never called you a "liar".

Secondly - you DO lie about what the Church teaches and I have exposed you many times on this forum for it. You make a claim and I prove you wrong straight from the Catechism. That's when you usually tell me that you have an "inside track" because you live in Italy, which is preposterous.

Like I said - exposing lies is NOT what is disgraceful. It's people like YOU who continue to lie with impunity.
Now, that's disgraceful . . .

Could you, like, reread the above, like, and then, like, tell me again how you don't call me, like, a liar, like.

Thanks.

Oh. And you have so many NEW surprises coming your way.
Just like the one from two yeas ago where we find now that remarrieds could receive communion. Where is THAT written in the CCC?

I know traditionalists such as yourself HATE new and modern ideas,
too bad.

 

[GodsGrace]

No, the Mormonism is NOT part of the Body of Christ, but a man made cult.

Now, which part of my post (#228) was a "lie"??
CAN you explain?

Excuse me kind sir...

How do YOU know if anyone that calls themselves a mormon is part of the Church? (capital C)

Are you saying with your comment above that ENTIRE denominations are or are not, part of the Church? (capital C)

My oh my. But you do need to go back and study up.

 

[GodsGrace]

Your comments in RED are flat-out lies.

First of all - I don't "hate" Protestants. Most of my siblings are Protestants and I love them dearly. What I don't have tolerance for are LIES.

Secondly - the Catholic Church has NEVER changed a doctrine and never will.
Your remark about the Church "changing" its position on Original Sin is another ridiculous lie.

And you can sit there and claim that you don't lie??
And you have the nerve to refer to ME as "disgraceful"??

What utter hypocrisy . . .

More disgraceful behavior.....
I'll pray for you, really.

 

[GodsGrace]

Why do you continue to lie?
100% of your list is true?? Let's go one by one . . .

The problem is, this church you speak of with all these verses is not the roman catholic church.
What is the "Roman" Catholic Church. there is no such thing.
Roman or "Latin" refers to one of 20 RITES that make up the Catholic Church.

The church is not a building.
Where do you get this idiotic notion??
The Catholic Church has NEVER claimed to be a "building" - but the Body of Christ.

The church is not a country
Again - where do you get this idiotic notion??
The Catholic Church has NEVER claimed to be a "country" - but the Body of Christ.

The church does not have it's own army
And it doesn't.
The Swiss guard are security guards for the Vatican

The church does not have it's own currency
The Vatican uses Euros. This is a European currency.

The church does not carry out crusades
Sure, it did. READ your history.

MOST of the lies about the Crusades that ignorant people like you have been spoonfed were created in the late 19th century by the Ottoman Empire as it was dying out.

The church does not carry our inquisitions
Sure, it did. READ your history.
The Inquisitions are where we get our process of fair and balanced jurisprudence. The accused wanted to get their cases brought before the courts of Inquisition because the alternative was instant judgement. With the Inquisitions, MANY people were exonerated instead of being punished by the State without having their case heard.

The church does not sign concordats with nazis.
Complete ignorance of history on this one . . .
First of all - Pius XI signed a concordat with Nazi Germany right after Hitler took power - to PROTECT German Catholics and NOT to further the Nazi cause.

Not only did the Church speak out against Nazi atrocities - Pius XII was personally responsible for saving MORE Jews than Oskar Schindler. After the war, the chief Rabbi of Rome (Israel Zolli) converted to the Catholic Church and took Pius's given name (Eugenio) as His Baptismal name.

And the church does not put Mary above Jesus.
And the Church NEVER has put anybody above Jesus.
Your ignorance of Catholic teaching is matched ONLY by your complete historical bankruptcy . . .


Do your HOMEWORK . . .

Here are two words you use a lot:

LIE
CHURCH

How about using this word every now and then:
JESUS.

 

[GodsGrace]

Why do you continue to lie?
100% of your list is true?? Let's go one by one . . .

The problem is, this church you speak of with all these verses is not the roman catholic church.
What is the "Roman" Catholic Church. there is no such thing.
Roman or "Latin" refers to one of 20 RITES that make up the Catholic Church.

The church is not a building.
Where do you get this idiotic notion??
The Catholic Church has NEVER claimed to be a "building" - but the Body of Christ.

The church is not a country
Again - where do you get this idiotic notion??
The Catholic Church has NEVER claimed to be a "country" - but the Body of Christ.

The church does not have it's own army
And it doesn't.
The Swiss guard are security guards for the Vatican

The church does not have it's own currency
The Vatican uses Euros. This is a European currency.

The church does not carry out crusades
Sure, it did. READ your history.

MOST of the lies about the Crusades that ignorant people like you have been spoonfed were created in the late 19th century by the Ottoman Empire as it was dying out.

The church does not carry our inquisitions
Sure, it did. READ your history.
The Inquisitions are where we get our process of fair and balanced jurisprudence. The accused wanted to get their cases brought before the courts of Inquisition because the alternative was instant judgement. With the Inquisitions, MANY people were exonerated instead of being punished by the State without having their case heard.

The church does not sign concordats with nazis.
Complete ignorance of history on this one . . .
First of all - Pius XI signed a concordat with Nazi Germany right after Hitler took power - to PROTECT German Catholics and NOT to further the Nazi cause.

Not only did the Church speak out against Nazi atrocities - Pius XII was personally responsible for saving MORE Jews than Oskar Schindler. After the war, the chief Rabbi of Rome (Israel Zolli) converted to the Catholic Church and took Pius's given name (Eugenio) as His Baptismal name.

And the church does not put Mary above Jesus.
And the Church NEVER has put anybody above Jesus.
Your ignorance of Catholic teaching is matched ONLY by your complete historical bankruptcy . . .


Do your HOMEWORK . . .

I cannot answer to all of the above,. but:

1. The Catholic Church DOES have its own currency.
2. The Catholic Church also has its very own stamps.
3. The Catholic Church is stationed in The Vatican.
The Vatican is its very own country.

Boy, but you're way behind the times...

 

[tabletalk]

Happy New Year to you, too.

Happy New Year BOL.