Conversation with An Atheist

[Mancunian]

Slavery has many nuances and it's not limited to the slavery of the 1700's in America.

Sometime biblical slavery is "indentured slavery'.....which has another context to it. There are those whop thunk every aspect of biblical slavery is the way it was in early America when the slaves were captured, delivered by boat, the people auctioned off then put to work.

However it's dressed up slavery is slavery and a useful commandment from God himself would have been useful to God himself.
In other words God's moral compass would be questioned less.
I'm not daft enough to think that slavery wouldn't exist, after all people break all of the commandments every day and always will.

 

[Mancunian]

It definitely would be a red flag.

Have you ever heard a preacher say that God lies?

No, I've never heard a preacher saying that, but I wouldn't expect to.

 

[Matthias]

No, I've never heard a preacher saying that, but I wouldn't expect to.

If you ever do hear one say it, know that you aren’t listening to a Christian preacher.

 

[Wrangler]

However it's dressed up slavery is slavery and a useful commandment from God himself would have been useful to God himself.
In other words God's moral compass would be questioned less.

Slavery is not inherently immoral. That is just your morality that you’re trying to impose on your maker.

Historically, slavery was considered a mercy rather than slaughter those on the losing side of a battle. FYI, it wasn’t morality after 1,000’s of years but economics after the Industrial Revolution, the Capitalist learned that a free man with a profit motive outproduced a slave.

 

[Mancunian]

Well, well, well....there you go, you're thinking out of the box now...chickens...the rodent population would have been increasing. Kinda yucky but for the carrion eaters re-exhumed carrion.
Of course the grasses would have began to grow...many animals like to munch out on grass.

See that!!! Think out of the box and your ark problems go away.

Oh, besides that, it appears the ark has been identified in the Mountains of Ararat.

I notice that this article is from Breaking Christian News haha.
Funnily enough I haven't seen this on the BBC news, or on any other reputable news outlets.

 

[Matthias]

I notice that this article is from Breaking Christian News haha.
Funnily enough I haven't seen this on the BBC news, or on any other reputable news outlets.

What news outlets do you (or other atheists) consider to be reputable?

 

[Mancunian]

What news outlets do you (or other atheists) consider to be reputable?

Plenty.
Breaking Christian News wouldn't be on that list though.
Obviously Nothing has been confirmed about the tunnels, the results are expected sometime in 2027.
Geologists are still skeptical.

 

[Matthias]

Plenty.

Please identify some of them by name. I’d like to look at the same outlets you consider reputable.

Breaking Christian News wouldn't be on that list though.
Obviously Nothing has been confirmed about the tunnels, the results are expected sometime in 2027.
Geologists are still skeptical.

I’ve seen reports about the current drilling on many news outlets, in the US and overseas press.

 

[TitusTwoWife]

If God is perfectly moral and the commandments are perfectly moral, how can God break those commandments himself?

For the same reason it's better if I ruin a sand castle I made rather than someone else ruining it. If I'm the author, if you will, I reserve the right to also destroy what I created. God destroyed almost all of humanity in Genesis. He is the originator of life, He has the authority to also take it away.

I don't think that Jesus compares in any way to the God of the OT.

Revelation Jesus will come back and have a day of wrath on all His enemies that is very violent. The Father got Jonah to preach to Ninevah and they repented so they were spared judgement. Both God and Jesus have wrath and mercy.

God and Jesus in Scripture have multiple dimensions. He is both love and justice, mercy and wrath, authoritative and gentle.

 

[Wrangler]

Plenty.
Breaking Christian News wouldn't be on that list though.
Obviously Nothing has been confirmed about the tunnels, the results are expected sometime in 2027.
Geologists are still skeptical.

I don’t have enough faith to be an Atheist.

 

[CrowCross]

However it's dressed up slavery is slavery

If you say so.
Indentured slavery isn't the type of slavery you seem to indicate the bible doesn't include.

and a useful commandment from God himself would have been useful to God himself.
In other words God's moral compass would be questioned less.
I'm not daft enough to think that slavery wouldn't exist, after all people break all of the commandments every day and always will.

Yes, people break the commandments...there are evil people in the world.

 

[CrowCross]

I notice that this article is from Breaking Christian News haha.
Funnily enough I haven't seen this on the BBC news, or on any other reputable news outlets.

I watched a report on Fox news yesterday. Here and here.......Funny how you didn't look there.