Coronavirus spreading

[reformed1689]

I'm just referring to the old guy in a US hospital letting people know that he received a $100,000 bill for his hospital treatment after getting the coronavirus.

And you also put a lie at the end that Trump was delayed in acting.

 

[reformed1689]

Did you not hear the news some day last week ?

The v was already known about by or before 2019/10th month.

Maybe the plan what to do was already in place a decade ago or longer.

Just because there is a virus doesn't mean action is needed in other places. They were still learningg about the virus at that stage. It had not spread rapidly at that point. There was nothing to do back in October. When it became evident that measures must be taken Trump started taking measures. It was not delayed. In fact, Democrats mocked him, jeered at him, hated on him, for taking the measures that he did take.

 

[Paul Christensen]

And you also put a lie at the end that Trump was delayed in acting.

Well, that's what many people in the US are saying, so it is not just me. But the slowness of really appreciating the seriousness of the virus is not limited to the US. Italy and Spain are suffering the consequences of not taking immediate action as well. Due to the prompt action that our NZ govt has done we are not having the same outbreak as those three countries.

What I was actually saying was that because it costs an arm and a leg to get treatment in a US hospital, the shareholders in US hospitals will profit greatly out of the pandemic and I think this is shameful. I believe that people with the virus should be treated free of charge and not saddled with hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical bills.

 

[Joseph77]

I'm just referring to the old guy in a US hospital letting people know that he received a $100,000 bill for his hospital treatment after getting the coronavirus.

In 2018/01 someone went to a hospital in an eastern state (on the coast of the Atlantic Ocean)
for a minor heart problem, at about 3a.m. or 4a.m.
by ambulance.

They were in pain, so finding out why would have been helpful, but they did more than that....

They did expensive stuff, un-needed stuff, with about $186,000.00 bill/cost. (instead of what was needed that would have cost perhaps $3,000.00..... This was found out by discovery, later, not before or while it was being done.

Likewise, the drug company representatives when asked if they would tell people (like today) about the $300.00 remedy vs whatever the drug companies say instead .... they said no - (with a straight face! (no twinge of remorse nor compassion at all noted in their conversation nor in their attitudes) ) ... (this was, and still is both heart-breaking and vexing daily ) .... (like in sodom and gomorrah) ....

Follow the money is the credo of the world/ corporations/ governments/ religions/ medicals/ education/ banks/ s

 

[Joseph77]

Well, that's what many people in the US are saying, so it is not just me. But the slowness of really appreciating the seriousness of the virus is not limited to the US. Italy and Spain are suffering the consequences of not taking immediate action as well. Due to the prompt action that our NZ govt has done we are not having the same outbreak as those three countries.

What I was actually saying was that because it costs an arm and a leg to get treatment in a US hospital, the shareholders in US hospitals will profit greatly out of the pandemic and I think this is shameful. I believe that people with the virus should be treated free of charge and not saddled with hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical bills.

Was any virus really serious ? I don't agree, and neither do the doctors who know better, personally.

What the governments of the world are doing - that is more serious, and wrong. It is wicked, as God permits,
and it is
fulfilling Scripture / Prophecy, as written. The whole world is deceived.

What is serious is the multitudes who refuse to trust the Creator. They will perish, unless they each repent (as Jesus told the people concerning their questions about those who died when the tower of siloam fell on them.

 

[Yehren]

Stop peddling the lie that there was a delay in action. He was taking action in January.

Well, let's take a look...

President Trump made his first public comments about the coronavirus on Jan. 22, in a television interview from Davos with CNBC’s Joe Kernen. The first American case had been announced the day before, and Kernen asked Trump, “Are there worries about a pandemic at this point?”

The president responded: “No. Not at all. And we have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.”
...
In the weeks that followed, Trump faced a series of choices. He could have taken aggressive measures to slow the spread of the virus. He could have insisted that the United States ramp up efforts to produce test kits. He could have emphasized the risks that the virus presented and urged Americans to take precautions if they had reason to believe they were sick. He could have used the powers of the presidency to reduce the number of people who would ultimately get sick.

He did none of those things.

I’ve reviewed all of his public statements and actions on coronavirus over the last two months, and they show a president who put almost no priority on public health. Trump’s priorities were different: Making the virus sound like a minor nuisance. Exaggerating his administration’s response. Blaming foreigners and, anachronistically, the Obama administration. Claiming incorrectly that the situation was improving. Trying to cheer up stock market investors.

It was one of many such warnings from prominent experts in late January. Many focused on the need to expand the capacity to test for the virus. In a Wall Street Journal article titled, “Act Now to Prevent an American Epidemic,” Luciana Borio and Scott Gottlieb — both former Trump administration officials — wrote:

If public-health authorities don’t interrupt the spread soon, the virus could infect many thousands more around the globe, disrupt air travel, overwhelm health care systems, and, worst of all, claim more lives. The good news: There’s still an opening to prevent a grim outcome. … But authorities can’t act quickly without a test that can diagnose the condition rapidly.

Trump, however, repeatedly told Americans that there was no reason to worry. On Jan. 24, he tweeted, “It will all work out well.”
Opinion | A Complete List of Trump’s Attempts to Play Down Coronavirus

So he was treating it as a P.R. problem that just needed his spin to make everything O.K.

 

[Taken]

No one is surprised that he can't do his job.

LOL...more like, you are unaware what the Presidents Job is.

It was his job...

LOL...
the President's JOB is NOT TO SAVE YOU!

The President's JOB is:
...TO "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States"!

You are free to whine and complain...but the Fact is you are Free to take care of yourself.

Just remember, when Trump suggests, measures to Stop People from breaking into the US....or put a moratorium on Travel TO and from particular countries... the Liberals COMPLAINED...

It's NOT news, countries with masses of economically depressed people and people whose culture is open air markets, SELL and EAT diseased and spoiled food and Start an outbreak of diseases, carried from people traveling country to country.
Sometimes the disease is spread Unintentionally, other times Intentionally.

Numerous flus and deadly virus' have begun in China, SOME in India... If you are so Disappointed in Trump "NOT Saving you"...why not move across the Pond? ...they are not majority Leaning on Christ's Salvation either.

 

[Joseph77]

Numerous flus and deadly virus' have begun in China, SOME in India... If you are so Disappointed in Trump "NOT Saving you"...why not move across the Pond? ...they are not majority Leaning on Christ's Salvation either.

Numerous 'plagues', if that's the right word, perhaps 'epidemics' is better?, have been started on purpose in the USA and in other countries ....
For decades, the fastest growing cause of death, according to AMA and FDA and CDC websites ,
has been medicine.
If people see what happened/ what is happening / the last century, they realize the fastest growing cause of disease has been diet and medicine (and inactivity/ oh well) .....

 

[reformed1689]

Well, that's what many people in the US are saying, so it is not just me.

Doesn't make it true. It is demonstrably false. He was taking action in January.

So he was treating it as a P.R. problem that just needed his spin to make everything O.K.

There was the PR front but there was also the action front, like travel restrictions. You conveniently leave those parts out. Let me ask you, what should he have done differently in January? Hmm? What was he being told to do that he was ignorning?

 

[Taken]

And you also put a lie at the end that Trump was delayed in acting.

You know how patient people are...(ha)
They want the solution, before a problem is identified.
If Trump (who's is neither a physician or chemist), Is advised one thing, and he speaks what he was advised and Tomorrow the advice is Different and he speakers Again, they call Him a Liar.
If He waits for ALL the Facts, they Complain, he didn't tell them soon enough.

It's like some thinking that having the title President means "being" the All knowing God and Savior.

Ridiculous!

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[reformed1689]

You know how patient people are...(ha)
They want the solution, before a problem is identified.
If Trump (who's is neither a physician or chemist), Is advised one thing, and he speaks what he was advised and Tomorrow the advice is Different and he speakers Again, they call Him a Liar.
If He waits for ALL the Facts, they Complain, he didn't tell them soon enough.

It's like some thinking that having the title President means "being" the All knowing God and Savior.

Ridiculous!

Glory to God,
Taken

Yeah straight liberal trash is what it is right?

 

[Yehren]

There was the PR front but there was also the action front, like travel restrictions.

His own people were telling him that it was too late for the restrictions to do any good at all. It was just more P.R. He continued to refuse to do anything about the pandemic until last week, when it became clear to him that he messed up.

You conveniently leave those parts out. Let me ask you, what should he have done differently in January? Hmm?

Widespread testing. Social distancing in affected areas. Impose the emergency powers given him to make sure we had enough equipment and beds. None of that happened. For weeks he tried cheer leading the epidemic away. And because of that we're still struggling while South Korea, which took immediate action, is now winding down its cases. It's going to get a lot worse soon, because Trump bungled the crisis.

 

[Yehren]

There will be a commission, later to sort out who messed up and how it happened. Right now, we're going to have to be holed up longer and more of us will die because our leaders failed to do the right things.

 

[Yehren]

LOL...more like, you are unaware what the Presidents Job is.

He's the chief of the executive branch. It's his job to take action in national emergencies. He completely bungled this one. He knows it too,because now, he's denying everything and trying to convince people he always knew it was going to be really bad. But Americans know the real story; he can't hide it:

Tracking Public Opinion on the Coronavirus

 

[Paul Christensen]

Doesn't make it true. It is demonstrably false. He was taking action in January.

There was the PR front but there was also the action front, like travel restrictions. You conveniently leave those parts out. Let me ask you, what should he have done differently in January? Hmm? What was he being told to do that he was ignorning?

Yehren, in his post, explained it much better than I could. Way down here in NZ I see things upside down!!

 

[reformed1689]

Yehren, in his post, explained it much better than I could. Way down here in NZ I see things upside down!!

@Yehren is the worst at spin and misinformation on this situation.

 

[reformed1689]

His own people were telling him that it was too late for the restrictions to do any good at all. It was just more P.R. He continued to refuse to do anything about the pandemic until last week, when it became clear to him that he messed up.

Are you insane? You clearly live in an alternate universe. Didn't do anything until last week? I got a card over a week ago about what every American should be doing. This is more lies. You sir, are a liar.

Widespread testing. Social distancing in affected areas. Impose the emergency powers given him to make sure we had enough equipment and beds. None of that happened.

There was not a need for that in January.

For weeks he tried cheer leading the epidemic away.

Not true.

And because of that we're still struggling while South Korea, which took immediate action, is now winding down its cases. It's going to get a lot worse soon, because Trump bungled the crisis.

Except he hasn't and didn't. You just hate Trump plain and simple.

 

[Heart2Soul]

His own people were telling him that it was too late for the restrictions to do any good at all. It was just more P.R. He continued to refuse to do anything about the pandemic until last week, when it became clear to him that he messed up.



Widespread testing. Social distancing in affected areas. Impose the emergency powers given him to make sure we had enough equipment and beds. None of that happened. For weeks he tried cheer leading the epidemic away. And because of that we're still struggling while South Korea, which took immediate action, is now winding down its cases. It's going to get a lot worse soon, because Trump bungled the crisis.

This is a lie from Satan....it's already in the down cycle of the curve. If anyone bungled the crisis it's the House of Representatives who were trying to stop Trump from closing all borders and were more focused on impeachment than a deadly virus...
Read this if you want to be fair and balanced on your opinions....
After attacking Trump's coronavirus-related China travel ban as xenophobic, Dems and media have changed tune

 

[reformed1689]

This is a lie from Satan....it's already in the down cycle of the curve. If anyone bungled the crisis it's the House of Representatives who were trying to stop Trump from closing all borders and were more focused on impeachment than a deadly virus...
Read this if you want to be fair and balanced on your opinions....
After attacking Trump's coronavirus-related China travel ban as xenophobic, Dems and media have changed tune

Don't forget Pelosi throwing a wrench in the stimulus package.

 

[Yehren]

This is a lie from Satan....it's already in the down cycle of the curve.

Well, let's take a look...





No, that doesn't look very much like the "down cycle of the curve", does it?

If anyone bungled the crisis it's the House of Representatives who were trying to stop Trump from closing all borders and were more focused on impeachment than a deadly virus...

Sorry, that excuse won't fly. The Senate refused to convict him long before this outbreak happened. And it's not as though he didn't know or even have all the information he needed to do the right thing:

He blew it. Everyone knows it, even the people who are trying to deny it.