CORRECT END TIMES TIME LINE

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Cassandra

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I am one of those that Dan 12:3 says will shine brightly and lead many to righteousness because my understanding of almost all prophecy came the Holy Spirit. Unfortunately you and Ross are among the mass majority of the believers that are still asleep in the false teachings academia in Christianity has introduced into the churches. According to Jesus in the parable of the virgins you won't wake up until the lost or the Virgins without oil realize they need to get saved.
@Gottservant , here is the problem.
James says he is directed by the Holy Spirit. But we are also directed by the Holy Spirit, aren't we?
It is the puffed up part I have a problem with. The above bolded part(in his quoted post) is arrogant. He is condemning people to hell in posts he's made here, called a member a liar--
If the folk here don't follow along, he condemns them.
We all have things in prophecy we believe.I think his time line is way off, but that does not stop him from salvation. Thinking he is above his brethren will, though.
 

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Time will reveal that you were uttertly misled by academia in Christianity. The last people you want to listen to about Bible prophecy is academia in Christianity. They are full of academic blunders by their flesh.
And you are perfect how and not full of your own blunders of the flesh? did Jesus come down physically and teach you personally?

But time will tell if teh believers who also studied to show themselves approved are correct in all or part, and if you are wrong and by this answer very arrogant all or in part.
 

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James says he is directed by the Holy Spirit. But we are also directed by the Holy Spirit, aren't we?
It is the puffed up part I have a problem with. The above bolded part(in his quoted post) is arrogant. He is condemning people to hell in posts he's made here, called a member a liar--
If the folk here don't follow along, he condemns them.
We all have things in prophecy we believe.I think his time line is way off, but that does not stop him from salvation. Thinking he is above his brethren will, though.
The scriptures say those of who share the correct understanding of prophecy will shine brightly, which as we move closer to the end will determine whether or not you are able to stand against the Antichrist and the False Prophet. I didn't condemn anyone to hell and I called out a person that resorts to lying to support his false teaching. If you are a Christian you are suppose to listen to the scriptures.
 

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I didn't condemn anyone to hell and I called out a person that resorts to lying to support his false teaching. If you are a Christian you are suppose to listen to the scriptures.

Ah @jamesdalbright, you have claimed that others resort to lying to support their false teaching, however, you have not presented any reasoned proof that justifies your accusation. I on the other hand have provided justification for my rebuttal of your posts.

My sense is that people now have your measure and just ignore your posts for what they are, misguided ramblings of a pup, as far as I am concerned.
 
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The main problem I see is that the a/c doesn't 'capture" Jerusalem. That will be his starting base starting w/ his deception as the false messiah. Jerusalem will be the capitol of his 10 nation confederation. The AoD will only be set up after the 3rd woe which is satan getting cast out of heaven and, imo, possessing the man who is the a/c and that is found in Rev. 13:3, 14-15.
 

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The main problem I see is that the a/c doesn't 'capture" Jerusalem. That will be his starting base starting w/ his deception as the false messiah. Jerusalem will be the capitol of his 10 nation confederation. The AoD will only be set up after the 3rd woe which is satan getting cast out of heaven and, imo, possessing the man who is the a/c and that is found in Rev. 13:3, 14-15.
Zech. 14:1 Behold, a day is coming for the LORD when the spoil taken from you will be divided among you. 2 For I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem to battle, and the city will be captured, the houses plundered, the women ravished, and half of the city exiled, but the rest of the people will not be cut off from the city.
 

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Actually, according to Progressive Amilienialism, you have alot MORE to correct and update, beginning in Daniel.
The book of Daniel was for the people Israel, as the book of Revelation is for this Age of God's Grace, through Jesus.
Anyone that has actually read these scriptures knows the prophetic books in Daniel and the Book of the Revelation both pertain to the nation of Israel in the end times.
 

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I think your timeline would be less confusing if you added the pretribulation rapture where it goes. And the USA is Babylon? How could you possibly dream that up?
The time line I posted is based on the scriptures.
Paul addressed the Pretribulation Rapture teachers in 2Th 2:1-5. When someone told the Thessalonians the rapture was at hand or could happen at any moment, the Thessalonians became confused about what Paul taught them. The fellow who said this was a Pretribulation Rapture teacher because when he said the rapture could happen at any moment the Antichrist had not yet emerged on the scene. In other words, he was teaching the rapture occurs before the Antichrist rises to power. In order for the Thessalonians to become confused about what Paul taught them they must have esteemed the Pretribulation Rapture teacher as Pastors are esteemed by believers today; otherwise the believers would not have taken him seriously. When Paul heard about this he wrote the letter recorded in 2Th. 2:1-5 and told the Thessalonians not to listen to the Pretribulation Rapture teacher because the rapture or our gathering to the Lord does not occur until after the the falling away and after the Antichrist seats himself in Jerusalem displaying himself as God. The scriptures tell us the Antichrist doesn’t seat himself in Jerusalem until 3 1/2 years after he emerges on the scene.
2Th. 2:1 Now we request you, brethren, with regard to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and our gathering together to Him, 2 that you may not be quickly shaken from your composure or be disturbed either by a spirit or a message or a letter as if from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come. 3 Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God. 5 Do you not remember that while I was still with you, I was telling you these things?

THE FULFILLMENT OF BABYLON THE GREAT
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I would like to share with you that while I was reading Rev 16, 17 & 18 Jesus revealed to me that the USA is Babylon the Great. You can see this through the judgments described in these chapters.

Rev 16:18-19 tells us that Babylon the Great is that place that when the earthquake splits her into three, this will cause all the cities of the nations to fall.
Rev. 16:18-19 And there were flashes of lightning and sounds and peals of thunder; and there was a great earthquake, such as there had not been since man came to be upon the earth, so great an earthquake was it, and so mighty. 19 The great city was split into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell. Babylon the great was remembered before God, to give her the cup of the wine of His fierce wrath.

When Rev 18:11 and 17-19 explain that the merchants of the earth who became rich from Babylon the Great will be weeping because no one buys there cargos anymore and every shipping company who became rich from her will be crying out because there is no place to ship these goods, they are telling us that the cities of the nations fall because the merchants of these cities are manufacturing the goods, that they sell in Babylon the Great in these cities, and when the earth quake destroys Babylon the Great the manufacturing in these cities will cease and this will cause the economies and the cities to fall. The USA is the only place in the world that every merchant and shipping company is becoming wealthy from; that if it was destroyed would cause all of the cities of the nations to fall.
Rev 18:11 and 17-19 - 11 “And the merchants of the earth weep and mourn over her, because no one buys their cargoes any more 17 for in one hour such great wealth has been laid waste!’ And every shipmaster and every passenger and sailor, and as many as make their living by the sea, stood at a distance, 18 and were crying out as they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, ‘ What city is like the great city?’ 19 “And they threw dust on their heads and were crying out, weeping and mourning, saying, ‘ Woe, woe, the great city, in which all who had ships at sea became rich by her wealth, for in one hour she has been laid waste!’


The mystery found in Rev 17:5 ‘and upon her forehead a name was written, a mystery, "BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH." coincides with this. The first part of the mystery which says: “Babylon the Great” tells us that Babylon the Great is like Babylon of Old was, but greater. Babylon was known for two things, they were the center of trade and they ruled the earth. This tells us that Babylon the Great is that place which is the center of trade and rules the earth, but is greater in magnitude than Babylon of Old. The only place in the world that fits this description is the USA.

The next part of the mystery tells us that Babylon the Great is the Mother of Harlots, or she is that place that makes baby harlots, or she is that place that the other nations are becoming baby harlots, by becoming like her. The modern term for this is westernization. The USA is the only nation in the world that all of the other nations are becoming like, or westernized.

We can see the fulfillment of the last part of the mystery more clearly today, which tells us that Babylon the Great is the mother of the abominations of the earth. Recently, the Socialists in the Democratic Party have included such abominations as abortion, homosexuality, and same sex marriage in US foreign policy and they are using the economic grip that the US has on other nations and US military supremacy to force the nations of the world to legalize these abominations and it is through this that they are causing the USA to fulfill, “the mother of the abominations of the earth”. There is no other country in the world that is fulfilling the mother of the abominations of the earth.

John saw in Rev 17:9-11 that Babylon the Great is that place that is capable of sitting on or ruling over the fourth beast and Antichrist when he first arises, when they tell us that the beast, which symbolizes the Antichrist, comes out of one of the seven heads, which are kingdoms and their kings, and becomes an eighth king that the woman sits on or rules over.
Rev 17: 9-11 "Here is the mind which has wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits, 10 and they are seven kings; five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; and when he comes, he must remain a little while. 11 “The beast which was and is not, is himself also an eighth and is one of the seven, and he goes to destruction.

The USA is the only country that is capable of ruling over the Antichrist when he first arises.

Rev 16:12-19 tells us that the judgment of the USA takes place during the great tribulation period when the Antichrist and the False Prophet are gathering the nations to Har-magedon to reestablish his rule.
Rev. 16:12-19 The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river, the Euphrates; and its water was dried up, so that the way would be prepared for the kings from the east. 13 And I saw coming out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet, three unclean spirits like frogs; 14 for they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the whole world, to gather them together for the war of the great day of God, the Almighty. 15 “Behold, I am coming like a thief. Blessed is the one who stays awake and keeps his clothes, so that he will not walk about naked and men will not see his shame.” 16 And they gathered them together to the place which in Hebrew is called Har-magedon. 17 Then the seventh angel poured out his bowl upon the air, and a loud voice came out of the temple from the throne, saying, “ It is done.” 18 And there were flashes of lightning and sounds and peals of thunder; and there was a great earthquake, such as there had not been since man came to be upon the earth, so great an earthquake was it, and so mighty. 19 And the great city was split into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell. And Babylon the great was remembered before God, to give her the cup of the wine of His fierce wrath.
 

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And you are perfect how and not full of your own blunders of the flesh? did Jesus come down physically and teach you personally?

But time will tell if teh believers who also studied to show themselves approved are correct in all or part, and if you are wrong and by this answer very arrogant all or in part.
You should not be concerned with what you posted about what I posted. You should be concerned with how Jesus said He is going to deal with you if you are teaching false teachings and correct yourself in order to keep from suffering the same fate as those who refuse to correct their false teachings.
Rev. 22:18 I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God shall add to him the plagues which are written in this book; 19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book.
Dan 12:9 And he said, “Go your way, Daniel, for these words are concealed and sealed up until the end time. 10 “ Many will be purged, purified and refined; but the wicked will act wickedly, and none of the wicked will understand, but those who have insight will understand.
Those that refine will enjoy Dan 12:3.
Dan 12:3 “And those who have insight will shine brightly like the brightness of the expanse of heaven, and those who lead the many to righteousness, like the stars forever and ever.
 

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Zech. 14:1 Behold, a day is coming for the LORD when the spoil taken from you will be divided among you. 2 For I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem to battle, and the city will be captured, the houses plundered, the women ravished, and half of the city exiled, but the rest of the people will not be cut off from the city.
Post-mill, not premill, imo.
 

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I think your timeline would be less confusing if you added the pretribulation rapture where it goes. And the USA is Babylon? How could you possibly dream that up?
There's is no doubt in my mind that, as we speak, America is the only nation that comes close to the descriptions given in Rev. 17 & 18! And if you mean putting the concept of pretrib in the circular file, I heartily agree.
 

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Anyone that has actually read these scriptures knows the prophetic books in Daniel and the Book of the Revelation both pertain to the nation of Israel in the end times.
The ONLY hope Israel is going to get, is to believe in Jesus. By God's Grace through Jesus, there is no difference between Jew or Gentile.
If they don't come to God the Father through Jesus, before they die, they are as equally lost as any Gentile, who spurns the only Gift of God's salvation for ALL. There are NO second chances, no matter how many millenniums on earth "church-ianity" (the wisdom of men- 1 Cor. 2:5) wants to fabricate. All of such are "scoffers", and will be part of the prophetic period of the "falling away" from faith.

Please read up on all of Gal. 4.
The Jerusalem which now is, has been "cast out". It IS NOT blessed by God, ever since the Jews themselves committed the "seventh abomination", which is actually #3 in Prov. 6:16-19. The end result?..... 70AD.

Get a grip before it's too late.
 
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Zech. 14:1 Behold, a day is coming for the LORD when the spoil taken from you will be divided among you. 2 For I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem to battle, and the city will be captured, the houses plundered, the women ravished, and half of the city exiled, but the rest of the people will not be cut off from the city.
Post-mill, not premill, imo.
Post-mill, not premill, imo.

The scriptures reveal the 1000 years occurs after Jerusalem is captured.
Zech. 14:1 Behold, a day is coming for the LORD when the spoil taken from you will be divided among you. 2 For I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem to battle, and the city will be captured, the houses plundered, the women ravished, and half of the city exiled, but the rest of the people will not be cut off from the city……….Then the LORD, my God, will come, and all the holy ones with Him!………9 And the LORD will be king over all the earth; in that day the LORD will be the only one, and His name the only one.
 

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Earburner said:
Actually, according to Progressive Amilienialism, you have alot MORE to correct and update, beginning in Daniel.
The book of Daniel was for the people Israel, as the book of Revelation is for this Age of God's Grace, through Jesus.
Anyone that has actually read these scriptures knows the prophetic books in Daniel and the Book of the Revelation both pertain to the nation of Israel in the end times.
The ONLY hope Israel is going to get, is to believe in Jesus. By God's Grace through Jesus, there is no difference between Jew or Gentile.
If they don't come to God the Father through Jesus, before they die, they are as equally lost as any Gentile, who spurns the only Gift of God's salvation for ALL. There are NO second chances, no matter how many millenniums on earth "church-ianity" (the wisdom of men- 1 Cor. 2:5) wants to fabricate. All of such are "scoffers", and will be part of the prophetic period of the "falling away" from faith.

Please read up on all of Gal. 4.
The Jerusalem which now is, has been "cast out". It IS NOT blessed by God, ever since the Jews themselves committed the "seventh abomination", which is actually #3 in Prov. 6:16-19. The end result?..... 70AD

Get a grip before it's too late.
I reposted the false statements you posted about me and about the books of Daniel and the book of the Revelation, and my correction to it. Luke 19:44 tells us why Jerusalem was leveled.
Luke 19:44 and will level you to the ground and your children within you, and they will not leave in you one stone upon another, because you did not recognize the time of your visitation.”
 

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The time line I posted is based on the scriptures.

The timeline you posted is based on your understanding of the scriptures
Paul addressed the Pretribulation Rapture teachers in 2Th 2:1-5. When someone told the Thessalonians the rapture was at hand or could happen at any moment, the Thessalonians became confused about what Paul taught them. The fellow who said this was a Pretribulation Rapture teacher because when he said the rapture could happen at any moment the Antichrist had not yet emerged on the scene. In other words, he was teaching the rapture occurs before the Antichrist rises to power. In order for the Thessalonians to become confused about what Paul taught them they must have esteemed the Pretribulation Rapture teacher as Pastors are esteemed by believers today; otherwise the believers would not have taken him seriously. When Paul heard about this he wrote the letter recorded in 2Th. 2:1-5 and told the Thessalonians not to listen to the Pretribulation Rapture teacher because the rapture or our gathering to the Lord does not occur until after the the falling away and after the Antichrist seats himself in Jerusalem displaying himself as God. The scriptures tell us the Antichrist doesn’t seat himself in Jerusalem until 3 1/2 years after he emerges on the scene.
The discussion in the verses Paul posted has nothing to do with the pretribulation rapture. Paul is saying.......You are not in the Day of the Lord. The gathering from heaven and earth has not occurred. Before the Day of the Lord happens the man of sin will be revealed

So the people thought they were in the day of the Lord and had missed the gathering from heaven and earth.

THE FULFILLMENT OF BABYLON THE GREAT
Part 1 of 2

I would like to share with you that while I was reading Rev 16, 17 & 18 Jesus revealed to me that the USA is Babylon the Great. You can see this through the judgments described in these chapters.

Rev 16:18-19 tells us that Babylon the Great is that place that when the earthquake splits her into three, this will cause all the cities of the nations to fall.
Rev. 16:18-19 And there were flashes of lightning and sounds and peals of thunder; and there was a great earthquake, such as there had not been since man came to be upon the earth, so great an earthquake was it, and so mighty. 19 The great city was split into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell. Babylon the great was remembered before God, to give her the cup of the wine of His fierce wrath.

When Rev 18:11 and 17-19 explain that the merchants of the earth who became rich from Babylon the Great will be weeping because no one buys there cargos anymore and every shipping company who became rich from her will be crying out because there is no place to ship these goods, they are telling us that the cities of the nations fall because the merchants of these cities are manufacturing the goods, that they sell in Babylon the Great in these cities, and when the earth quake destroys Babylon the Great the manufacturing in these cities will cease and this will cause the economies and the cities to fall. The USA is the only place in the world that every merchant and shipping company is becoming wealthy from; that if it was destroyed would cause all of the cities of the nations to fall.
Why did you not point the verses that show the cargo that they were lamenting over?

Revelation 18
12 The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble,

13 And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men.

Revelation 18
16 And saying, Alas, alas that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!



The city being discussed in the verses is Vatican City, not the USA.

The mystery found in Rev 17:5 ‘and upon her forehead a name was written, a mystery, "BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH." coincides with this. The first part of the mystery which says: “Babylon the Great” tells us that Babylon the Great is like Babylon of Old was, but greater. Babylon was known for two things, they were the center of trade and they ruled the earth. This tells us that Babylon the Great is that place which is the center of trade and rules the earth, but is greater in magnitude than Babylon of Old. The only place in the world that fits this description is the USA.
The Babylonian religion was brought into the Church by Constantine who was the high priest of Sol Invictus.
The next part of the mystery tells us that Babylon the Great is the Mother of Harlots, or she is that place that makes baby harlots, or she is that place that the other nations are becoming baby harlots, by becoming like her. The modern term for this is westernization. The USA is the only nation in the world that all of the other nations are becoming like, or westernized.
The Catholic Church has spread all over the world

We can see the fulfillment of the last part of the mystery more clearly today, which tells us that Babylon the Great is the mother of the abominations of the earth. Recently, the Socialists in the Democratic Party have included such abominations as abortion, homosexuality, and same sex marriage in US foreign policy and they are using the economic grip that the US has on other nations and US military supremacy to force the nations of the world to legalize these abominations and it is through this that they are causing the USA to fulfill, “the mother of the abominations of the earth”. There is no other country in the world that is fulfilling the mother of the abominations of the earth.

Babylon the great is the land of the Chaldeans
John saw in Rev 17:9-11 that Babylon the Great is that place that is capable of sitting on or ruling over the fourth beast and Antichrist when he first arises, when they tell us that the beast, which symbolizes the Antichrist, comes out of one of the seven heads, which are kingdoms and their kings, and becomes an eighth king that the woman sits on or rules over.
Rev 17: 9-11 "Here is the mind which has wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits, 10 and they are seven kings; five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; and when he comes, he must remain a little while. 11 “The beast which was and is not, is himself also an eighth and is one of the seven, and he goes to destruction.
The eighth king who is of the seven is Nimrod. Do you really think went to war in Iraq the second time because we thought they had weapons of mass destruction? Why did we really go? What happened in 2003 that got us to Iraq in one week?

The USA is the only country that is capable of ruling over the Antichrist when he first arises.

Rev 16:12-19 tells us that the judgment of the USA takes place during the great tribulation period when the Antichrist and the False Prophet are gathering the nations to Har-magedon to reestablish his rule.
Rev. 16:12-19 The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river, the Euphrates; and its water was dried up, so that the way would be prepared for the kings from the east. 13 And I saw coming out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet, three unclean spirits like frogs; 14 for they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the whole world, to gather them together for the war of the great day of God, the Almighty. 15 “Behold, I am coming like a thief. Blessed is the one who stays awake and keeps his clothes, so that he will not walk about naked and men will not see his shame.” 16 And they gathered them together to the place which in Hebrew is called Har-magedon. 17 Then the seventh angel poured out his bowl upon the air, and a loud voice came out of the temple from the throne, saying, “ It is done.” 18 And there were flashes of lightning and sounds and peals of thunder; and there was a great earthquake, such as there had not been since man came to be upon the earth, so great an earthquake was it, and so mighty. 19 And the great city was split into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell. And Babylon the great was remembered before God, to give her the cup of the wine of His fierce wrath.
There is a beast from the earth and a beast from the sea. Neither is the USA. Nor is the USA Babylon.
 

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You should not be concerned with what you posted about what I posted. You should be concerned with how Jesus said He is going to deal with you if you are teaching false teachings and correct yourself in order to keep from suffering the same fate as those who refuse to correct their false teachings.
And how do I know your novel teachings are the correct oners and not other men of god who have proven their faith by their deeds is false?

by what authority should I listen to you over others?