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You chose to believe the leftist worldly ideology of endless genders over the awesome infallible sacred word of God. To put faith in modern mens ideas over the wisdom of God is why you will never have wisdom or knowledge of the truth. Christians are Bible believers. Anyone who denies the Bible as you do is not a christian.The Bible teaches that Noah built an ark and managed to squeeze pairs and more of every living animal in it.
The Bible teaches that Jesus managed to feed 500 people with 2 fish and 5 loaves.
The moral of the story is that the Bible is not literal and most so-called Christians are woefully duped by a system of behavioural control that is so obviously based on false teaching. Hence the Bible is not the place to use for definitions of anything. You are caught up in that same system
America was overwhelmingly founded by believers in God. The God of the Bible.
Prove with scripture Genesis 5:2 is not literal. If you do not use the Bible your source is just opinion.Genesis is not literal. It's relating the processes of alchemy in many places. Male and female are key aspects of alchemy, referring to the male/female principles also allegorically referred to as sun and moon and Mercury and Sulphur. The story of Adam and Eve is not literal for the same reason. In time you will come to see but you need the "eyes to see" and "ears to hear" that Jesus spoke of in order to see the "mysteries of the kingdom"'
Sigh . . . . .You chose to believe the leftist worldly ideology of endless genders over the awesome infallible sacred word of God. To put faith in modern mens ideas over the wisdom of God is why you will never have wisdom or knowledge of the truth. Christians are Bible believers. Anyone who denies the Bible as you do is not a christian.
John 5:24,
- Most assuredly I say to you he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life and shall not come into judgement but has passed from death to life.
You are a person of the world. You will always be confused and lost. You get your information from unbelievers/skeptics. God cannot be all powerful if He cannot preserve His word till Jesus returns.Sigh . . . . .
The Bible is not infallible (at least not the versions in society today). It's full of 100s if not 1000s of contradictions and inaccuracies
Silly questionProve with scripture Genesis 5:2 is not literal. If you do not use the Bible your source is just opinion.
I was confused and lost whilst I was engaged in Christianity and being lied to and blindsided. I am no longer lost.You are a person of the world. You will always be confused and lost.
Nope I get my information (in part) from the Bible. I have the "eyes to see" and "ears to hear" that Jesus specifically told us were needed to see the secrets hidden there. It is you that get your information from other humans. They spoonfeed you standard dogma and do not teach you the truth. Hence the "mysteries of the kingdom" are hidden from you currently.You get your information from unbelievers/skeptics.
God cannot be all powerful if He cannot preserve His word till Jesus returns.
That you equate belief in your God with accumulation of wealth exposes much of the American psyche and level of conditioning its people have been subjected to.America was overwhelmingly founded by believers in God. The God of the Bible.
We became the wealthiest most free nation on earth.
You made a truth claim that my use of Genesis 5:2 is inaccurate. Now you claim it cannot be understood. You are silly for suggesting my use of Genesis 5:2 is wrong now that you claim it can be interpreted differently.Silly question
I am an independent free thinker.Christian dogma and have the courage to start searching in new directions. Christianity doesn't want you
You are unlearned. You are not capable of teaching Bible. You have not studied the scriptures.I can't make you learn a new language
Bible never promises physical wealth to Gods people. The bible does promise that God blesses nations that seek after Him. China is wealthy. You wrongly accuse me of wealth equates God is with us. It can by a by product of having the nuclear family set up the way God intended it. As America has traditionally followed. Now that we no longer follow that example. More and more Americans are poor, and they blame all their ills on Christian beliefs rather than the left's new ideas for the family.That you equate belief in your God with accumulation of wealth exposes much of the American psyche and level of conditioning its people have been subjected to
I fear you're not listening. I haven't claimed it "cannot be understood". I said, as Jesus has said, that the meaning is hidden to those who don't have the "eyes to see" and "ears to hear". Those people do not know or recognise the terminology being used in the Bible and thus don't understand the secrets therein. Do you think Jesus was lying??You made a truth claim that my use of Genesis 5:2 is inaccurate. Now you claim it cannot be understood. You are silly for suggesting my use of Genesis 5:2 is wrong now that you claim it can be interpreted differently.
If it can be interpreted differently then your condemning my use of Genesis 5:2 goes against your own claim that it can be interpreted differently. Typical leftest. It can only be interpreted differently if that fits your interpretation, lol.
There you go. Making excuses for inaccuracies in the Bible just as I said. I mean we could run an entire thread on this. I can list literally 100s of examples of errors and contradictions throughout the Bible. You'd make excuses for all of them because that's what you have been conditioned to do. If you're conditioned, you are NOT free to think for yourself.If you knew just a little Bible, you would know what death means in this context.
I'm not going to tell you.
You can do your do diligence and study for yourself.
No, Not Jesus.I fear you're not listening. I haven't claimed it "cannot be understood". I said, as Jesus has said, that the meaning is hidden to those who don't have the "eyes to see" and "ears to hear". Those people do not know or recognise the terminology being used in the Bible and thus don't understand the secrets therein. Do you think Jesus was lying?
Clearly if you thought Genesis was literal and didn't recognise the allegorical terminology it uses then it is you that are "without" as Jesus stated. I have learned that "language". I recognise the terminology and know what it refers to. I know because I've researched for many years in many directions having freed myself from religious indoctrination. I've done the time, put in the hours, read 100s of works.No, Not Jesus.
I think you are ignorant of the Scriptures.
I know that you are.
lol, says you. I only believe what I believe because I chose to believe it. No one has ever forced me to believe what they believe. One of my best friends who was a great student of the Bible told me to never accept anything anyone told me without studying the scriptures myself to verify it was the teachings of God, 1Peter 4:11.There you go. Making excuses for inaccuracies in the Bible just as I said. I mean we could run an entire thread on this. I can list literally 100s of examples of errors and contradictions throughout the Bible. You'd make excuses for all of them because that's what you have been conditioned to do. If you're conditioned, you are NOT free to think for yourself
Hard to believe.Clearly if you thought Genesis was literal and didn't recognise the allegorical terminology it uses then it is you that are "without" as Jesus stated. I have learned that "language". I recognise the terminology and know what it refers to. I know because I've researched for many years in many directions having freed myself from religious indoctrination. I've done the time, put in the hours, read 100s of works
Homophobia ? Dislike of what ? in fact ! regarding such people ? as it's a very wide subject that spans from something of a nothing issue to total depravity.Your assessment of the definition of homophobia is very uneducated and coming from ignorance. You are also showing tyrannical tendencies. Your kind really can’t keep its nose out of others’ sex lives.
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Fundamentalist Christianity is a hateful, bigoted religion that has nothing to do with what Jesus taught and is manufactured to subdue and control people by keeping them in line via fear. It’s time for extremist forms of Christianity to be put on trial for spreading hate and calling for violence against LGBT.
The main goal of religion as we know it is conformity and obedience. It blames everything else around it as satanic and demonic while it itself, is such.
I only believe what I believe because I chose to believe it. No one has ever forced me to believe what they believe.
One of my best friends who was a great student of the Bible told me to never accept anything anyone told me without studying the scriptures myself to verify it was the teachings of God
You can't use the Bible to prove that the Bible is correct. That's ridiculous. That's like saying Harry Potter exists because the Harry Potter books say he does., 1Peter 4:11.
Acts 17:11,
-These were more fair minded than those in Thessalonica in that they received the word with all readiness and searched the Scriptures daily to find out whether these things were so.
The doctrine ARE others beliefs. They are a belief system written by humans. You've adopted someone else's belief system. You use the term God because other humans taught you that term. You read the Bible because other humans introduced it to you and got you to read it. You've been hand-held and led into the belief system whether you can bring yourself to admit it or not. Understand that I'm not trying to break you out of faith and belief. I'm trying to show you that the concepts of the Christian belief system and most mainstream belief systems are impossible, patently false and that if there is a god of some kind we have been badly mislead as to what he, she or it is.I never followed after my parents beliefs. I was rebellious my whole youth. I studied most all the doctrines in Christendom. My beliefs are from my own study. Not because of others beliefs.
You've misunderstood. Again ! I read the Bible. I believe the messages within it. I'm just not duped any more by mainstream religion who would have me take it all literally. I have gained more wisdom than that by grace of others.You already ruined your credibility by exposing your unbelief in the Bible.
It would be foolish, arrogant and pious to shut out all criticism and exposure of such errors and inconsistencies. A critical thinking mind would examine the evidence, would look at the passages with errors and inconsistencies and make an honest appraisal rather than try and make up lame excuses for them. Thousands of people thought Hitler was right. They revered him, loved him, treated him as a role model even when he murdered thousands of innocent people. They were brainwashed, unable to think critically, locked in a system of belief which made them shut out Hitler's atrocities and compartmentalise them. He could do no wrong.It would be foolish to have someone tell you what scripture means when that same person believes they are full of copy errors, inconsistencies, contradictions.
Hard to believe.
Give the reasons why you believe they are credible.
Give specific scripture that must be taken literal and scripture that must be taken as allegorical?
You are a product of other mens explanations. You did not come up with this on your own.It's utterly pointless doing this given your current state of closed mind but ok here's some examples:
Isaiah 45:8
"Drop down, ye heavens, from above, and let the skies pour down righteousness: let the earth open, and let them bring forth salvation, and let righteousness spring up together; I the Lord have created it."
This refers to the alchemical process which is the 2nd part of the Great Work (Magnum Opus). In this process there is a substance in a sealed glass flask that is a salt and a liquid combined (referred to as Earth) and is subjected to gentle heat. It causes a vapour (referred to as mist) to rise up to the top of the flask (the heavens) where it condenses like dew and falls back down like rain in a repeating cycle.
Same is described in Genesis here:
Genesis 2:4-7:
"This is the history of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, before any plant of the field was in the earth and before any herb of the field had grown. For the LORD God had not caused it to rain on the earth, and there was no man to till the ground; but a mist went up from the earth and watered the whole face of the ground. And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being."
The exact terminology is found in the Quran and elsewhere.
Surah Ar-Rum (Rome)
24. "He sends down water (rain) from the sky, and therewith revives the earth
after its death. Verily, in that are indeed signs for a people who understand"
This verse is even more confirming alchemy because it involves a "death" stage or putrefaction in which the salt/liquid substance rots and turns black.
Jesus himself tells us about this putrefaction stage in his parables:
John 12:23-24: Jesus replied, “Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.
Jesus is outlining the vital principle that to make something new you must first reduce a matter back to its "prima material" it's universal components so that it can be rebuilt. The Great Work in alchemy requires this process. The end result can not be achieved without it. Jesus was an alchemist and taught his disciples these secrets. They will make no sense to you a this point.