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EVERYONE RELAX. Seriously. Relax.

This is just a precursor. The REAL events are still in the offing. So when the panic subsides, go out with you PURSE, and fill your BAG, and don't forget to be able to defend your household with a SWORD. (Lke 22:35-36)

And in about 13 months we should expect people to start taking the mark of the beast; and in about 18 months if we're not "enrolled" we won't be able to buy or sell; and in about 19 months we should expect to see global thermonuclear war.

So although time is short, it still may be possible to get out of major cities, get away from high priority nuclear targets (military, State Capitals, major industrial cities) and accumulate enough resources (BAG) to provide necessities for your loved ones, and maybe enough for those who didn't know to plan ahead.


Everyone who heeds GOD's Prophetic Word in the Book of Psalms, and has an understanding of the Feasts can arrive to GOD's timeline, so that none should perish.


And hope to see the wise servants in the Millennial Kingdom!
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"Creating theories that alarm people" is not the same as getting down to facts instead of believing propaganda. Had the mainstream media maintained professionalism at all times, instead of becoming Leftist hacks, we would not be wondering as to what is Fake News and what is not. Now the Western media have willingly (and perhaps for cash) become the mouthpiece of the Communist government of China (just as they had no problem with all the extreme Leftist ideas from the Democrats). They are objecting to *Wuhan virus* and *Chinese virus*, when that is A FACT.

Obviously you are not aware of the timeline of COVID-19. So please read this article since the State Department has put this together.
Here’s A Timeline Of The Coronavirus Outbreak And China’s Coverup
Here’s A Timeline Of The Coronavirus Outbreak And China’s Coverup

Notice "China's coverup".
I had heard about it. Why blame the "mainstream media" for it? I'm not sure about when Trump made some of his statements; but I remember there was a time when it was thought the virus couldn't be passed from person to person. I can understand his optimism if he believed that; but why trust what China said about it?

I think Trump played a role in undermining the situation with the media. Saying this was a media hoax didn't help Trump or the American people. At a time like this, the President (any President) needs to have a less confrontational relationship with the press. Pence didn't flip out when asked the same question that set Trump off on a tirade.

Russia is probably lying about their cases. I heard about that on the BBC which interviewed someone who worked in a Russian hospital. He said they had diagnosed lots of people as flu victims. Well, if you don't have the proper test kits and the health care options to deal with it, I can see why Putin would want to cover things up.

You are being absurd saying the media are the mouthpiece of the Chinese government. If you're worried about people in the US with financial ties in China, look at Ivanka Trump or Mitch McConnell's wife, Secretary of Transportation Elaine Chao. Her father has a considerable business empire in China. I found the following very interesting:

https://oversight.house.gov/sites/d...ocuments/2019-09-16.EEC RK to DOT re Chao.pdf
 

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"Creating theories that alarm people" is not the same as getting down to facts instead of believing propaganda. Had the mainstream media maintained professionalism at all times, instead of becoming Leftist hacks, we would not be wondering as to what is Fake News and what is not. Now the Western media have willingly (and perhaps for cash) become the mouthpiece of the Communist government of China (just as they had no problem with all the extreme Leftist ideas from the Democrats). They are objecting to *Wuhan virus* and *Chinese virus*, when that is A FACT.

Obviously you are not aware of the timeline of COVID-19. So please read this article since the State Department has put this together.
Here’s A Timeline Of The Coronavirus Outbreak And China’s Coverup
Here’s A Timeline Of The Coronavirus Outbreak And China’s Coverup

Notice "China's coverup".
Some day soon, you all will wake up and stop looking at the puppets on stage.

"From Hitler’s Rischstag Fire to 9/11 (1), history is littered with instances of governments using alleged terrorist attacks to justify invasions or “suspend” civil liberties indefinitely. The question is not, “is it happening?” but, “why is it happening?”

To fully understand the “why” of it, we must first do a harder thing, and understand the Latin phrase “ordo ab chao” or “order out of chaos.” This occult motto, of which the vast majority of the world have never heard before, is in fact the motto and creed of the Thirty-third Degree of freemasonry, a secret society of which almost all our political leaders both past and present are devout members."
Order Out Of Chaos – The Return Of Gnosis
 

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^ In my referenced site above, I do not follow any of it. It is only being referenced for reasons of support, describing the source of method of their study, whereby secret organizations operate to control the world.

In any case, for any secret organization to hold to a motto of "ordo ab chao", the questions remain:
1. How is such a concept being manifested today?
2. How many incidents, of such a motto, are in play?
3. What is the ultimate goal that is to be acheived?
 

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So since my first post, things have escalated exponentially. In less than a week. Entire countries have now shut down. Cities under martial law... And if you disagree with that last statement go outside with some friends and throw some hoops. The economy has ground to a virtual standstill. Schools closed... Anywhere with more than half a dozen people closed. There is going to be more damage from the shutting down of the economy than from the virus. More people going into debt to survive. Increasing homelessness, crime, suicides. Just as there was during what I suspect was now the not so great depression of the late 1920s. But again i think this is a deliberate ploy to introduce a new electronic currency globally and void even more so national borders.
And I do really wonder at the impact this conditioning of reliance on government for bail out money or emergency funds to get through tough times is having on the world. Mark of the beast anyone? Oh, yes please will come the instant reply. But of course none will recognize it as the mark of the beast, not even Christians. They don't even know who the beast is... How will they recognize it's signature?
 
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UK deaths levelling off at 281 but Gov't considering ordering lock down as so many people went out into fresh air and sunshine yesterday.
McDonalds to close completely after just doing takeway service.
Some consideration being given to only letting people out for a short while to get essential supplies.
 

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^ In my referenced site above, I do not follow any of it. It is only being referenced for reasons of support, describing the source of method of their study, whereby secret organizations operate to control the world.

In any case, for any secret organization to hold to a motto of "ordo ab chao", the questions remain:
1. How is such a concept being manifested today?
2. How many incidents, of such a motto, are in play?
3. What is the ultimate goal that is to be acheived?
The secret organisation is Satan's Illuminati - FalseJews of Jerusalem. Read how Stephen exposed them in Acts 7?
The Illuminati are heads of all big organisations and run the governments even if they are not the kings and presidents.
Their ultimate goal is to win the entire Earth for Satan and make everyone pagan evolutionists and kill as many Christians as they can.
As they are blind to the truth of Jesus they do not realise that their days are numbered.
This is the message of Genesis 3:14-15
3:14 And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

You will never hear any preacher or pastor explain this as most have now written the OT off as myth and legend.
 

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I think only Christians believe those sorts of things are going to happen, which brings me back to my question of, why post this in a sub-forum for non-believers who are most likely to just see the OP as crazy? Are you trying to be persuasive? Are you trying to convert us?

its not Christians that believe that its good to have a one world system, they may see it as end of world stuff but that doesn't mean the godless and otherwise non-Christians don't hope for such things as a one world gov. or religion. many non believers preach one world or one religion (set of beliefs) agendas in the context of world peace.

funny thing though, human nature is a caldron of wrath, not peace, in which the essence is a kingdom of death, all of man's judgements result in death. man doesn't give life to the dead, man gives death to the living.
 

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its not Christians that believe that its good to have a one world system, they may see it as end of world stuff but that doesn't mean the godless and otherwise non-Christians don't hope for such things as a one world gov. or religion. many non believers preach one world or one religion (set of beliefs) agendas in the context of world peace.
I don't see how the nations of this world are anywhere near accepting a one-world government or religion.

funny thing though, human nature is a caldron of wrath, not peace, in which the essence is a kingdom of death, all of man's judgements result in death. man doesn't give life to the dead, man gives death to the living.
If that's about the COVID-19 outbreak, I'm kind of done talking about it here. The information is out there and easily accessible, so no one can plead ignorance. If people end up dying or losing people close to them because they didn't take things seriously, that's their own fault.
 
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The secret organisation is Satan's Illuminati - FalseJews of Jerusalem. Read how Stephen exposed them in Acts 7?
The Illuminati are heads of all big organisations and run the governments even if they are not the kings and presidents.
Their ultimate goal is to win the entire Earth for Satan and make everyone pagan evolutionists and kill as many Christians as they can.
As they are blind to the truth of Jesus they do not realise that their days are numbered.
This is the message of Genesis 3:14-15
3:14 And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

You will never hear any preacher or pastor explain this as most have now written the OT off as myth and legend.
This earth is satan's only home. He knows that Jesus IS going to return. Therefore his one and only goal is to "Save the earth", of which is the "programing" that all the world are hearing today, so that when Jesus and His mighty angels do suddenly appear from Heaven, the world will have already been conditioned to fight against the "Invaders".
 

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The secret organisation is Satan's Illuminati - FalseJews of Jerusalem. Read how Stephen exposed them in Acts 7?
The Illuminati are heads of all big organisations and run the governments even if they are not the kings and presidents.
Their ultimate goal is to win the entire Earth for Satan and make everyone pagan evolutionists and kill as many Christians as they can.
As they are blind to the truth of Jesus they do not realise that their days are numbered.
This is the message of Genesis 3:14-15
3:14 And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

You will never hear any preacher or pastor explain this as most have now written the OT off as myth and legend.
Allow me please to offer you some comfort regards teachers or preachers dealing with the subject of secret societies...I know you said most are not, and perhaps you are right... But you must admit it is a very controversial topic, and specialised. Very few have the knowledge or expertise to do justice to the subject. And even fewer know how to relate it to scripture... Nevertheless there are some who attempt it, and I offer you one here who I would suggest is the very best.

 

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I don't see how the nations of this world are anywhere near accepting a one-world government or religion.


If that's about the COVID-19 outbreak, I'm kind of done talking about it here. The information is out there and easily accessible, so no one can plead ignorance. If people end up dying or losing people close to them because they didn't take things seriously, that's their own fault.
LOL! Its not about "religion" as you understand it!
Its about a religion that appeals to "the natural man" called- "Save the Planet".

You and all, who are Born Again Christians (Romans 8:8-9), should be far from giving up on talking about the "trip wire" of COVID-19, or any other event of "chaos" that the "Banking Elite" (Rothchilds etc.) will use to bring about their NWO.

You might want to seriously check out what the democrats are now doing at this moment.
New Coronavirus Stimulus Bill In Congress Creates U.S. Digital Dollar

Have you earnestly researched what "5G Technology" is really all about?
 

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LOL! Its not about "religion" as you understand it!
Its about a religion that appeals to "the natural man" called- "Save the Planet".

You and all, who are Born Again Christians (Romans 8:8-9), should be far from giving up on talking about the "trip wire" of COVID-19, or any other event of "chaos" that the "Banking Elite" (Rothchilds etc.) will use to bring about their NWO.

You might want to seriously check out what the democrats are now doing at this moment.
New Coronavirus Stimulus Bill In Congress Creates U.S. Digital Dollar

Have you earnestly researched what "5G Technology" is really all about?
I don't believe in end times conspiracy theories in any way at all. IMO, most of them are just plain nuts.
 

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34 tied to Arkansas church test positive for coronavirus, deacon says

Nearly three dozen people connected to a church in Cleburne County have tested positive for covid-19, according to a deacon of that church.

Donald Shipp of First Assemblies of God Church in Greers Ferry said Monday that 34 people who were in attendance during a recent children’s event at the church had tested positive for the virus, and that more were awaiting test results.

Of those who tested positive for the virus, 31 are on staff at or are members of First Assemblies, he said. The remaining three are two evangelists who led the children’s event March 5-8 and a child who was visiting for that event.​

From the Pastor's Facebook page:

This virus is highly contagious and it is no respecter of persons. It seemingly picks its victim at random, so it’s best to remain very vigilant in hygiene protocols to the very best of your abilities…

… I would love to have you take this medical threat more seriously. Maybe you assumed that it couldn’t happen to you, just like I did. Please adhere to the social instructions that you are receiving locally and nationally. We must keep the affected population to as low a number as possible. Our singular act of stubborn independence can have far reaching effects on someone else’s life.​
 

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I don't see how the nations of this world are anywhere near accepting a one-world government or religion.
LOL! What did you think, that the Banking Elite are going to ask the nations of the world to vote for or against their NWO?
NO!!
Their GOAL is to bring this present economic system to a collapse, so that they can manifest and mandate their new economic paradigm of digitized money, through 5G technology.
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Do we as Christians want that? No, but they do, and they will manipulate and maneuver the world into it willing, by a barage of orchestrated chaos, to the point that the nations will be begging for relief.
Its already beginning!
Coronavirus Stimulus Offered By House Financial Services Committee Creates New Digital Dollar
 

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^ Now, when that shall take place for a "digital dollar", its anybody's guess. But the fact that it is being discussed and planned for in our government, its just a matter of time of when it will be implemented.
Let's not forget about Democratic Candiate Andrew Yang. He is a big promoter of free digitized money for every US citizen.
And you think that this won't happen? There have been numerous test runs throughout the world.
CHina is almost there totally!
 

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I don't believe in end times conspiracy theories in any way at all. IMO, most of them are just plain nuts.
Do you have closed mind naturally, about the seriousness of the chaotic events that take place in this world, and therefore don't seek to know why?
Is denial your answer?
 

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Do you have closed mind naturally, about the seriousness of the chaotic events that take place in this world, and therefore don't seek to know why?
Is denial your answer?
People who think the earth is flat say the exact same things.

I gotta say, I underestimated just how crazy this forum is. I don't know if it's that the pandemic brought the loonies out or what, but I'm not even sure what to post here anymore. Some of y'all are nuts.
 

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... More people going into debt to survive. Increasing homelessness, crime, suicides. ...
This is only the precursor,the dry run, the practice session. In the REAL crisis, there will anarchy in the streets, and according to the scenario -- the government will be shooting citizens who are looting stores for food and necessities.

Mark of the beast anyone? Oh, yes please will come the instant reply. But of course none will recognize it as the mark of the beast, not even Christians. They don't even know who the beast is... How will they recognize it's signature?
-- Silliness --. People DON"T CARE to find out the methodology, the multiple aspects, and the name of the a/c. If they did, the would, but they don't. So they're no longer "ignorant" (which can be "cured"), they're deliberately "stupid" (which is "forever").

But then again, what would the Great Falling Away be without stupid people who call themselves "christians"?!?
Bobby Jo
 

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... Very few have the knowledge or expertise to do justice to the subject. ...

... starting with those who FALSELY ascribe Daniel's 9th Chapter "seven and sixty-two" as though it were one number. -- If they can't get the SIMPLE, how will they grasp the COMPLEX?!?


Silly people,
Bobby Jo