DECONSTRUCTION - How far is too far?

[St. SteVen]

The idea of 'biblical' is an open ended, pious appearing, bias which enables any view to be justified.
Slavery was justified 'biblically' justified.
Patriarchy to the oppression of women and children was and is 'biblically' justified.
War is 'biblically justified

Control of people in various settings is 'biblically' justified etc etc.

The 'bible says it' is in my view the excuse any 'overlord' uses to get the advantage in a biblical culture.....and in this context, taking matters out of context to get the ascendancy is taken for granted.

Good points.
Oftentimes the claim of "biblical" is to assign unquestionable authority to ones position.
An attempt to end any discussion and require compliance. Join or die. (be rejected)

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'Of these things put them in remembrance,
charging them before the Lord
that they strive not about words to no profit,
but to the subverting of the hearers.
Study to shew thyself approved unto God,
a workman that needeth not to be ashamed,
rightly dividing the word of truth.
But shun profane and vain babblings:
for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
And their word will eat as doth a canker:
of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus;
Who concerning the truth have erred,
saying that the resurrection is past already;
and overthrow the faith of some.
Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure,
having this seal,
The Lord knoweth them that are his.
And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ
depart from iniquity.'
(2Ti 2:15-19)

Hello @St. SteVen ,

I believe that deconstruction is a dangerous process, and should not be indulged in. The best way of evaluating what you believe, is by using the word of God as your plumb-line. By reading the Scriptures, prayerfully, and believing what it says: casting aside all that religion itself has imposed upon you in the light of what is written.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[St. SteVen]

Hello @St. SteVen ,

I believe that deconstruction is a dangerous process, and should not be indulged in. The best way of evaluating what you believe, is by using the word of God as your plumb-line. By reading the Scriptures, prayerfully, and believing what it says: casting aside all that religion itself has imposed upon you in the light of what is written.

Thanks for your post.
That's what I mean by DECONSTRUCTION. "casting aside all that religion itself has imposed upon you in the light of what is written."

Some have certainly taken it too far. IMO
They are now atheists.

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[St. SteVen]

Thanks for your post.
That's what I mean by DECONSTRUCTION. "casting aside all that religion itself has imposed upon you in the light of what is written."

Some have certainly taken it too far. IMO
They are now atheists.

Concerning this subject, I had actually emailed a forum friend who is a Pastor to ask him about it.
My concern was that at my current trajectory I was likely to be an atheist within five years.
He helped me to understand that those who became atheists due to their deconstruction process had simply over-reacted.
One doesn't have to go that far with it. That was very helpful council.

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[St. SteVen]

This is somewhat of a follow-up to my previous topic from June 23, 2023:

Is there a cure for my religious upbringing? - other than atheism, I mean.

Hello deconstruction. Atheism, is the obvious over-reaction to escaping a religious upbringing. Study on this issue shows people going in many different directions both toward and away from religion. This video outlines the frustration involved in deconstruction. Let's discuss.

www.christianityboard.com

Here's another video that talks specifically about the process of deconstruction that Sara Martin went through.

The question is: Deconstruction; how far is too far?
- Should we NEVER question our faith?
- Are reasonable questions with biblical answers okay?
- Is it okay to ask the really tough questions?
- Are there questions that would offend our brothers and sisters of the faith?
- Should we be concerned about easily offended folks when we need answers?
- What sort of questions are out-of-bounds for a Christian to ask?
- Should a Christian pull away from church to seek answers?
- Should a Christian leave church all together if they can no longer cope?

Let's discuss.

--- ADDENDUM ---

From post #123

DECONSTRUCTION is about re-evaluating our religious upbringing.
Long before this term emerged, Catholics were converting to Protestantism, and vice versa.
In fact, a person coming to Christ in this life deconstructs from their previous life.
DECONSTRUCTION is not the enemy, except to those who uphold tribalism loyalties.

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Another interesting video from Sara Martin's channel.

 

[amigo de christo]

Deconstruction , how far is TOO far .
May as well be written as
TWISTING and OMITTING scriptures , How much is TOO MUCH .
And i say NOT EVEN A WORD ought to have been t wisted , omitted , DECONSTRUC TED .
How far is too far
THIS is how far too far is
WHEN even the very thought to do so pops into the mind
ITS TOO FAR to even entertain it .
There is two problems with deconstruction .
And had they not done the first t hey w ould not have performed the second .
What was the first mistake with deconstruction , EVEN THINKING ABOUT IT .
Even thinking on such a thing . BIBLE TIME stevie , BIBLE TIME .

 

[St. SteVen]

This is a follow-up to my previous topic from June 23, 2023:

Is there a cure for my religious upbringing? - other than atheism, I mean.

Hello deconstruction. Atheism, is the obvious over-reaction to escaping a religious upbringing. Study on this issue shows people going in many different directions both toward and away from religion. This video outlines the frustration involved in deconstruction. Let's discuss.

www.christianityboard.com

Here's another video that talks specifically about the process of deconstruction that Sara Martin went through.

The question is: Deconstruction; how far is too far?
- Should we NEVER question our faith?
- Are reasonable questions with biblical answers okay?
- Is it okay to ask the really tough questions?
- Are there questions that would offend our brothers and sisters of the faith?
- Should we be concerned about easily offended folks when we need answers?
- What sort of questions are out-of-bounds for a Christian to ask?
- Should a Christian pull away from church to seek answers?
- Should a Christian leave church all together if they can no longer cope?

Let's discuss.

--- ADDENDUM ---

From post #123

DECONSTRUCTION is about re-evaluating our religious upbringing.
Long before this term emerged, Catholics were converting to Protestantism, and vice versa.
In fact, a person coming to Christ in this life deconstructs from their previous life.
DECONSTRUCTION is not the enemy, except to those who uphold tribalism loyalties.

 

[amigo de christo]

Deconstruction was a snare , meant TO SOUND like it was about re evaluating our religious upbringing .
But was really about planting doubt on the scriptures themselves .

 

[St. SteVen]

Deconstruction was a snare , meant TO SOUND like it was about re evaluating our religious upbringing .
But was really about planting doubt on the scriptures themselves .

What the church teaches about the scriptures is part of the problem.
The church teaches that the English translation of the Bible in your hands
is the infallible and inerrant Word of God and every word is inspired.
(English translations - none of which agree)

Those who understand where the Bible came from may back off from there
to say that only applies to the original autographs, which we do not have.

 

[amigo de christo]

What the church teaches about the scriptures is part of the problem.
The church teaches that the English translation of the Bible in your hands
is the infallible and inerrant Word of God and every word is inspired.
(English translations - none of which agree)

Those who understand where the Bible came from may back off from there
to say that only applies to the original autographs, which we do not have.

reread your first line . Are you sitting in a chair . I do not want you to faint and hit your head .
I KNOW THIS . Your second line is the snare . They then act like the bible was the problem . NO SIR . NO and SIR .
MEN were the problem . WHY you think we got all them different denominations and beliefs .
You see that IS THE SNARE . I AGREE WITH the what the churches teach is part of the problem .
BUT YOU DONT see me then turn around and act like there is a problem with the bible . THEY DOING
the same t hing TO YOU that the churches did to th eir own . YOU really BELEIVE we have to know greek dont ya .
YOU GIVE and gave THEM THE POWER TO DECIEVE YOU , just like all those who sat under
the denominations did . ONLY THIS TIME a lie has come to merge them as one . BUT NOT THE CORRECT WAY my friend .
But rather it simply merges the denominations and now even the false reli goins , and NOT U NDER GOD AT ALL .
But men buy a lie because they love a lie . SO YOU ARE NOT WITHOUT FAULT bud . YOU LOVED
what they sold you , just like a baptists , a jw and etc loved what their men taught them on ce upon a time .
AND NOW THE BIG LIE has come to merge them all to the day OF THEIR AND YOUR DESTRUCTION .
Unless YOU DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT . GET IN THE BIBLE and stop trusting in men . that is the one
thing that all the decieved have always had in common . THEY TRUST ED IN MEN , WHEN THEY SHOULD HAVE TRUSTED
only IN GOD . BIBLE TIME st steven . BIBLE TIME .

 

[St. SteVen]

St. SteVen said:
What the church teaches about the scriptures is part of the problem.
The church teaches that the English translation of the Bible in your hands
is the infallible and inerrant Word of God and every word is inspired.
(English translations - none of which agree)

Those who understand where the Bible came from may back off from there
to say that only applies to the original autographs, which we do not have.

BUT YOU DONT see me then turn around and act like there is a problem with the bible .

I didn't say there is a problem with the Bible. "What the church teaches about the scriptures is part of the problem."
I expect an English translation NOT to be infallible, inerrant, or completely inspired. (every word)