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Featured Denominations will never be saved !!

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  1. Seasoned by Grace

    Seasoned by Grace Active Member

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    They were created by man not created by GOD.
    A "FEW" in congregations of Gods choosing will be saved because they belong to God the right way, not because the belong to the right denomination or church with the right name on it. They will belong because their heart belongs to GOD FOREVEVER.

    No matter how you RAGE against me and my words, no one can change God's words or plans or intentions.

    God only created one church, and man divided it up into so many pieces, no one knows what is the right church today, that's why everyone is so confused.

    Most church goers will go to HELL because Christ said so, no matter how many lies are told or false teachers tell their falsehoods so that SATAN can claim his victims just like in the day of JONAH, most, even here, will be lost to satan.

    Matthew 7:14, "FEW who call themselves believers will enter the kingdom of GOD!!"
    LUKE 13: 23-24. "Few who call themselves believers will enter the kingdom of GOD!!"
    Matthew 7:21, "FEW who call themselves believers will enter the kingdom of GOD!!

    Only individuals who have accepted God's the truth will be saved.
    The pre-destined
    The appointed
    The elect
    The chosen
    The remnant
    The foreknew

    God already knows who will choose HIM and be REAL, and has sinse before the beginning of time.
    That's why He has pre-destined who He has because He knows the "FEW" who will be real. followers and who are the fakes.

    I wonder if God's judgement is beginning with the coronavirus??
    I don't see many here anymore that used to expound all there lies.
     
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    Jane_Doe22 Well-Known Member

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    I’m sorry, but Aren’t you doing the exact action you are criticizing?
     
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    I don't support any religious organisation that have their leaders wear fancy hats and robes to give the common "herd" that they are closer to God and have more authority than any ordinary believer. The corruption of paganism discredits them as genuine Christian churches.
     
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    I'm not criticizing anything, just stating facts.

    None in name of a church will be saved.

    In fact the same is true for all churches - none will be saved because people belong to a CERTAIN CHURCH.

    All that are saved, will be saved because they follow the word of God from their hearts, not by following what comes from a others.

    God only created ONE CHURCH and you won't find the name of the many churches today in the bible because God did not create them and the HERESY they ALL teach, and God and Paul warns us about.
     
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    Jane_Doe22 Well-Known Member

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    And Calvin?

    Can a person reject the church of Calvin and still be saved?
     
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    Never heard of the church of Calvin.

    The only true church I know is the one created by God through Jesus Christ blood, and is the one and only true faith from God, not from man's idea's.

    I see none of the names of today churches in any of my bibles because God didn't create them - MAN DID, along with all the false teachings that go with them.
    That's why so many people who are searching for the truth, can't find it.

    The only place to find the truth is in God's word, and it can only be found there if you search hard enough, and long enough.

    I searched for over 40 years, knowing all the while there was something wrong in all the churches I attended, but I never gave up, and anyone here who does the same while praying diligently and seeking God's truth will find it through the Holy Spirit revealing it to you like he did for me.

    I promote no doctrine or particular faith, I just encourage everyone to search for God's truth through bible study and prayer, and following the leading of the Holy Spirit, and have no agenda but to know God's truth.
     
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    Jane_Doe22 Well-Known Member

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    But you're promoting the doctrine of Calvin here on this very thread.

    What if somebody studies the Bible earnestly & extensively in prayer and disagrees with Calvin's teaching? Will you then say that they are not saved?
     
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    I have never read anything about Calvin, but what I've heard about him your very wrong.
    I preach JESUS CHRIST and SALVATION THROUGH him AND NOTHING MORE.

    If anyone reads the bible and find's true salvation, all you have to agree with is the words of God. Why should Calvin or anyone else have to be included in the conversation???

    Jesus Christ my Savior is the ONLY ONE who shed His blood for me
     
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    These doctrines you are advocating are specifically taught in the denomination of Calvinism (quoting your OP):

    "Only individuals who GOD has allowed to know the truth will be saved.
    The pre-destined
    The appointed
    The elect
    The chosen
    The remnant
    The foreknew"

    Whether or not you are aware of it, you are preaching a specific denomination's teaching.

    Again, what if a person earnestly studies the Bible and disagree with that denomination's teaching? Can I
     
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    lforrest Well-Known Member Staff Member Admin

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    I must agree with seasoned by grace. There can be no substitute for the teaching of the Holy Spirit.

    All should be encouraged to enter his tutelage. Bring no suppositions with you but that his word is Truth. Come hungry for his word, with prayer and fasting.

    All past teachings are fair game for correction. All human judgements are open to appeal.
     
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    1)"Only individuals who God has allowed to know the truth will be saved" was a statement improperly worded BY ME.

    God wants all to know the truth and be set free from sin, and be saved.

    I went back and rewrote my statement to read, "Only individuals who have accepted God's biblical truth will be saved.
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    2) If you earnestly study for God's truth you will find it and you will find yourself disagreeing with all church doctrines in some important area's the longer you study as I did, and have many others. It's just an outcome of finding the truth and wanting that more than anything.
    I'm not advising anyone to leave their church at all, but what happens is you find yourself in a place that is so uncomfortable, like I did, I had to leave, and remembering what all the other churches taught, I had no where to go.

    BUT...I did put all this in God's hands because He has provided for me always for every need, and he has again provided by providing others in my life who feel the same way after coming to the same conclusions.

    I prayed because I had no one who felt like me and God TRUELY provided others who have the same opinions that agree with the bible. SO once again for HE IS FAITHFUL!!

    It's just a result of doing what is right because we put God FIRST.
    Myself and many others who have found the same truth's of God's word have eventually given up going to church because of the false doctrine s being taught and acted out on.

    God bless you and remember that God id faithful to PROVIDE FOR ALL YOUR NEEDS...ALL OF THEM!!!

    MY name is OLIGOS
     
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    I'm guessing there was a typo here?
     
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    True born again Christians within any of the denominations will be saved. Denominations of themselves will save nobody.
     
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    well all of us want to miss the second DEATH, so, Revelation 20:6 "Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years".

    being blessed are spelled out in Matthews chapter 5, and being holy is required and spelled out in 1 Peter 1:12 - 25

    but all can be summed up in just one verse Micah 6:8.

    PICJAG.
     
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    FABULOUS!!![​IMG]
    GOD BLESS YOU MIGHTILY.

    My name is OLIGOS
     
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    There was a "TYPO" - Thank you.

    I caught it after another poster help me see it and I changed it.

    Thank you for being kind about it and not tearing into me - MUCH APPRECIATED.

    My name is OLIGOS
     
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    ABSOLUTELY - THE CHURCH SAVES NO ONE.

    BELIEVING GOD"S TRUTH SAVES EVERYONE, IF WE ENDURE TO THE END.
    (No I'm not screaming - Whoever decided that capitals are screaming??)

    God bless you "PEARL" for your "PEARLS" of wisdom :).

    My name is OLIGOS
     
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    @Seasoned by Grace , denominations are at their core a group of people whom understand the Bible similarly.

    You say that you do not like denominations- that's fine. But do you also acknowledge the salvation of somebody whom understand the Bible differently than you do? Even when you've both earnestly, prayerfully, and intensively studied it?
     
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    These are all words spoken of in the Bible

    they are not calvin in origion
     
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    Jane Doe:)
    1) I never said I didn't like "DENOMINATIONS".
    Disagreeing with them and their purpose and teachings has nothing to do with liking or disliking them.
    2)Over my 42 years as a believer and seeker of the truth, my faith has changed several times, as I have grown in God's word and truth and in HIS KNOWLEDGE.

    God has always known my heart, and always will, and he always provides for me accordingly through the leading of the Holy Spirit.

    No one has to agree with me about anything about their salvation.
    If your heart is in the right place with God, and your trying your best to find the truth, as I have, and others have too, that is what matters most.

    Romans 14:22 says, "The faith which you have, have as your own conviction before God.
    Happy is he who doesn't condemn himself in what he (Or she) approvers.

    We all stand alone at the end with our God and Savior, and that is the day we all look forward to if we have truly honored God and sought out His truth and His plan for our lives, and lived out that plan and that truth with fear and trembling (God scares me like my dad did. I knew my dad loved me a lot, but if I did something I knew I shouldn't, I knew I was in trouble) to the best of our abilities with HIS HELP.

    God bless you
    My name is OLIGOS
     
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