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Discussion in 'Christian Spirituality Forum' started by Webers_Home, Jun 27, 2019.

  1. tzcho2

    tzcho2 Well-Known Member

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    Your complicity and ignorance is not my concern, Kindly mind your own words. I do not want people to follow her pitiful example and think they are saved.
     
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    JohnPaul Well-Known Member

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    I have done the same and have prayed to the Blessed Mother, am I condemned to an eternity of damnation?

    Now I only pray to God the father and our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
     
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    Enoch111 Well-Known Member

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    Making insulting remarks about me shows that I have touched a nerve. Neither you nor any Christian has been given the right or authority to sit in judgment over Mother Teresa's spiritual condition. So it really was none of your business.
     
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    tzcho2 Well-Known Member

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    No nerve, just calling a spade a spade. How very hypocritical & disingenous Enoch111 , first you accuse me of berating , then you tell me it's none of my business.....and you may kindly take your own advice.
    I find your comments shows your ignorance and complicity with the rcc.
     
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    illini1959 Active Member

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    Thanks for making my point. But she did stray from biblical teaching. There's a difference.

    How about using the word of God as your document? That's where the truth is.

    Pointing out false teaching is hardly putting myself above anyone else.

    The blindness exists in those who follow false teaching.
     
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    illini1959 Active Member

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    Spot on :)
     
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    Nancy Well-Known Member

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    Oh wow...someone agrees with me! Lol. Well, it does make sense and, have not heard anything else that would give a better reason. ¯\_:)_/¯
     
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  8. BreadOfLife

    BreadOfLife Well-Known Member

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    I already pointed to Scripture to support this doctrine - pay attention.

    When Jesus cured the blind man, the Pharisees condemned Him, as usual and stated that the blind man was a sinner and they weren't.
    Jesus rebuked them and said:
    John 9:41
    If you were blind you would have no sin; but since you say, 'We see', your sin remains.

    God does NOT judge the ignorant as harshly as He does they who claim to "know".
     
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    Enoch111 Well-Known Member

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    As anyone (who is not on the defensive) will testify, I have called the doctrines and practices of the RCC "False Christianity". But you have picked on a Catholic nun who never claimed to be other than Catholic but devoted her life to humanitarian service.

    Therefore you have no right or authority to stand in judgment over her spiritual condition (and neither does the OP). As the Bible says, each one will give account for themselves.

    Had she been a member of your local assembly and believed things which were not biblical, you might have had an excuse. But you are without excuse.

    Furthermore, I am far from ignorant, therefore your remark is out of line.
     
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    Nancy Well-Known Member

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    [​IMG]
     
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    illini1959 Active Member

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    There is no scripture that supports the false doctrine that any way other than Jesus is the way to God.
     
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    BreadOfLife Well-Known Member

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    And not only does the Catholic Church agree with this - we taught this to the world - LONG before there ever was a Protestant . . .
    Jesus is the ONLY way to the Father (John 14:6).
     
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    Circling back, that's not what MT said though, is it?

    Either she was wrong in what she said based on scripture and it can't be condoned or you condone what she said just because she's "Mother Teresa" and are in opposition to what scripture teaches.

    Can't have it both ways.
     
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    @Enoch111 is 100% right.
    WHY belittel a woman that did nothing but the best she could.

    Which fruit were BAD that MT produced?
    Jesus said that we will be known by our fruit.
    Have YOU produced as much fruit as MT?
    I doubt it.

    YOU give the gospel message.
    THIS WAS NOT MT's purpose in life.

    We are all of the Body,,,but we are not all the same part.
    1 Corinthians 12:12-27

    Also, try to remember what James said:
    James 2:15-17
     
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    What happens to those that never heard of Jesus?
    Is He not God?
    Is God not one?
     
  16. BreadOfLife

    BreadOfLife Well-Known Member

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    Mother Teresa never taught that there was any other way to God.
    As I explained before - she merely espoused the doctrine of Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus, as I presented in post #71:

    "Outside the Church there is no salvation"
    846 How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers?335 Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body:

    Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.336

    847 This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church:
    Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation.337

    848 "Although in ways known to himself God can lead those who, through no fault of their own, are ignorant of the Gospel, to that faith without which it is impossible to please him, the Church still has the obligation and also the sacred right to evangelize all men."338


    This is not a guarantee. We leave the ignorant to the mercy of God.
    God does NOT judge the ignorant in the same manner as He does those who claim to "know" (John 9:41).


    "Preach the Gospel daily - and when necessary, use words" - St. Francis of Assisi

    Mother Teresa LIVED this godly philosophy through her example.
     
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    GodsGrace Well-Known Member

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    Very nice post.
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    "Furthermore" yourself :rolleyes: .
    I am commenting on this thread that is called "diagnosing MT" and well within my rights to do so- whether you approve or not.
    The fact that; OP topic is the topic, therefore scrutinizing MT's condition. As well the facts that; MT is a Public figure; she is held up as a Christian ICON; representative as the works gospel , epitome of sainthood, by the RCC; she is held up as the example of Christian sanctity & Christian SAINTHOOD by the world gives us the right to scrutinize her life & words. Her celebrity & the hyper peddling of her life by the heretical Roman CC which arrogantly promotes itself as the sole divine authority of Christ on earth, so that the much of the world ignorantly considers the RCC to be the masthead of Christianity has put her in this position/public spotlight. My concern is for all those who are & will be lead astray because of her mythic religious celebrity and the Rc churches powerful media hype by all the RC journalists that are prominent in the media.
    I care about those that have been sold a bill of goods and are under the hypnotic sway of ROME and have no clue that they have been given "another gospel" , taught the false teachings of purgatory, to pray to Mary the co-redemptrix and taught that all the abominations of Rome are acceptable worship & glorify God.
     
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    You really show your heart there Nancy. I don't want to belong to your club.
     
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    Are you saying Buddha and Confucious, etc., are other ways to God? If so, that is in direct opposition to scripture....

    "“You shall have no other gods before me." Exodus 20:3

    "For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus" 1 Timothy 2:5

    "Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me." John 14:6

    “You are My witnesses,” declares the Lord,
    “And My servant whom I have chosen,
    So that you may know and believe Me
    And understand that I am He.
    Before Me there was no God formed,
    And there will be none after Me.
    “I, even I, am the Lord,
    And there is no savior besides Me.
    “It is I who have declared and saved and proclaimed,
    And there was no strange god among you;
    So you are My witnesses,” declares the Lord,
    “And I am God.
    “Even from eternity I am He,..." Isaiah 43:10-13

    "For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse." Rom 1:20

    "....you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.” Acts 1:8

    "And this is eternal life, that they know you the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent.: John 17:3

    "And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.” Acts 4:12
     
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