I wouldn't say "covered", though. Under the altar sacrifices, sins were covered. Jesus removed sins, so there need be no further sacrifice made.
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Did Jesus remove all the sin from the world?
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I'm saying you are mischaracterizing my posts. Maybe it's not because you aren't reading my posts carefully, maybe you are, and are doing it anyway.
Why are so many people so quick to deflect from the point at hand?
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Are you then asserting that you have personal knowledge that Fidel Castro was regenerated?
There was a modern day example of Charles Templeton. Many have claimed that because he was an arena evangelist alongside Billy Graham, and later recanted all Christian belief, that he was born again, and then lost.
But when you read his writings, you find him saying he had never actually believed all that. He was an excellent orator, and went on to be a speaker and writer.
Anecdotal accounts of "lost salvation" aren't going to mean anything alongside the clear teaching of Scripture.
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All I can say is, it says taking the sin away, not the rememberence of sin, so I'm going with what it says. And remember, this isn't the only place to make such a statement.
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Davy
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So... you are illiterate about Communism and Castro too, and not just illiterate of Paul's warnings against falling away from Christ?
Fidel Castro and his brother declared Cuba as an atheist state when he became its leader. What did Jesus say about judging one's fruit?
Most people don't think so, that Jesus and his blood he shed covered the whole world, believer or not.
There are so many people that believe that God is still angry at the world because of sin when it was Jesus and his blood that took care of it all.
Once again, you dance away from the point at hand, to deflect into more personal nonsense.
Not much of a conversation, so I'm bowing out.
Much love!
pandaflower
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It would seem for some,their good news is the pride of being in the flesh.
I agree with you. That is incredibly sad.
amigo de christo
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Time for a real simple question .
Is one following CHRIST when they omit and teach contrary and do contrary to what HE taught . TO HIS WORDS
and to the words of the SPIRIT filled apostels who left us lots to read in that bible .
There is a reason this simple question is asked .
think about this what makes a world? earth and buildings or trees ? same as a nation.. it takes human beings to make a world/nation.. if you use the phrase taketh away the sin of the world .. would that imply universal salvation ? or would it it mean those who call upon the name of the Lord . i am pretty sure the latter is correct
in reality it should be worderded he became a sin sacrifice for us.. he knew no sin he was the spotless lamb .but the key part is for us. naturally calvinist will panic on the word us. just like as in peter not willing any should perish but ALL come to repentance .. they redefine all
I think so also. Everyone knows already that God is real, and that He created everything. Then they don't want to know, because it makes them accountable to their Creator, and people don't want that. So they intentionally forget about God.
There is no such thing as a true atheist.
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3 apprentice demons being trained in wickedness and deception by the devil.
he asked the three apprentices ' how will you deceive human beings and seduce them into hell ? "
the 1st . demon said , " i will whisper to them there is no God.' i will conquer them by turning them into atheist. "
the devil said. Fool ! that approach almost never works ! Even the atheist i. in the the secret chambers of his own soul, knows there is a GOD."
the 2nd. demon said " i will whisper to them , THERE IS NO HELL. " I will conquer them by convincing them they need not fear the finial judgment"
the devil said FOOL ! THAT approach won't work. they may try to deceive themselves , but their consciences testifies that there is a right and there is a wrong, there is heaven and there is Hell. "
the 3rd. demon said . I will whisper to them. there is plenty of time to repent and believe . WHY HURRY ? "
THE OLD DEVIL SAID CORRECT that is how you will conquer them .
ya know this little parable story Holds lots of truth
he asked the three apprentices ' how will you deceive human beings and seduce them into hell ? "
the 1st . demon said , " i will whisper to them there is no God.' i will conquer them by turning them into atheist. "
the devil said. Fool ! that approach almost never works ! Even the atheist i. in the the secret chambers of his own soul, knows there is a GOD."
the 2nd. demon said " i will whisper to them , THERE IS NO HELL. " I will conquer them by convincing them they need not fear the finial judgment"
the devil said FOOL ! THAT approach won't work. they may try to deceive themselves , but their consciences testifies that there is a right and there is a wrong, there is heaven and there is Hell. "
the 3rd. demon said . I will whisper to them. there is plenty of time to repent and believe . WHY HURRY ? "
THE OLD DEVIL SAID CORRECT that is how you will conquer them .
ya know this little parable story Holds lots of truth
amigo de christo
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Osas has taught dangerous concepts .
However one thing reigns true
ANYONE that came out, was NEVER OF us .
So as far as even karl marx who once beleived
and later came out . HIMS WAS NEVER TRULY OF US . that is a solid fact .
pandaflower
Member
I think dangerous people have taught eternal security in Christ is dangerous. For them .
God knows whom he calls. And of every one of them,he will lose not one.
God tells us this too.
Dangerous people insist that isn't true. Just as they insist the word,God,was not made flesh so to dwell among us and bring his good news. Besides God,there is no savior.
I've learned there are a great many dangerous people who follow their own dangerous ideas.
We are not of them. So,they do not affect our bond with our father.
Though they shall regret their lives for far longer than they lived them.
amigo de christo
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yes there is truth in that parable .
But how about the fourth demon .
HE is by far the most deceptive of them all .
And so the fourth one said
I WILL silence the gospel by recreating another one
and i will EVEN use the name of JESUS and yet preach another jesus .
THAT ONE has most now decieved .
as it hollers GOD IS LOVE and has made the path very , VERY BROAD TO HIM
and the jesus it preaches to christendom and the love it preaches to
COMETH OF THE LIAR of ALL LIARS , from its father the devil and its mother the HARLOT .
YOU wanna silence the gospel . You come into the camp of those who preach it
And slowly but surely start preaching about LOVE only start twisting it
into a love that wont correct sin , wont correct error
into a love that tries to find common ground
with darkness and makes it seem so necessary to do so .
HOW to silence the gospel that does save . COME WITHIN and change it
AND that is what he did . TO silence the gospel you have to
convince the church so called into another gospel , another love
AND that is exactly what this co exist , this seeker friendly was a huge co helper too ,
DID . till now when one even in the church
tries to rebuke sin , he is called a judgmental hater
AND till NOW even when one cometh in
to remind THE CHURCH ITSELF
of the dire fact one must beleive ON JESUS to be saved
ITS THE SAME party lines wicked response , OH DONT JUDGE , you dont know their hearts
there are good peoples in all religoins .
THAT IS HOW THE DEVIL DOES HIS WORK .
that is in any doctrine from the osas to the osnas to the baptism of the spiriting speaking in tongues .. a gen baptist who holds to osnas can live outside the will of God . you ask are you saved? reply they will say yes.. do you hold to osas ? NO.. go figure
amigo de christo
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Well it is dangerous for them . MINE SALVATION is SECURE IN CHRIST and IN HE ALONE .
And i trust HIS WORDS , including HIS warnings and reminders
as well as the reminders of the apostels , WHICH also DID REMIND the church YE MUST CONTINUE IN HIM .
Speaking of those dangerous people
HOW COME so many within christendom now
believe even other religoins are gonna be okay and serve the same GOD WE DO .
WHY oh WHY IS THAT LIE getting bought .
And you people come after me
A man WHO HAS NON STOP fought against the lie of interfaith
WHICH DOES DENY the FACT ONE MUST BELIEVE TO BE SAVED .
But because i warn against some things OSAS taught that are dangerous
You and others act like I am the one in danger .
NO sir or mam , ITS THOSE WHO FOLLOW THIS ALL INCLUSVIVE sin accepting
UNBELIEF accepting fake love that DENY JESUS THE CHRIST and are actually co helpers to that which is of
ANTI CHRIST .
so what do you have to say about so called finding common ground interfaith interreligious
sin accepting lie . MANY now follow it . Beleiving its the LOVE OF GOD
when IT DARN SURE AINT , ITS of satan who desires THE DEATH OF THEM ALL . but again what says you about it .
amigo de christo
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because you ask the wrong second question .
Ask them if they are saved . IF they say
ASK THEM what JESUS do they follow . replace the word OSAS , WITH DO YOU HOLD TO CHRIST JESUS .
HIS WORDS . Truth is a number so high in both camps
Osas and osnas , DONT EVEN KNOW HIM let alone TRUST IN HIM or follow HIM .
Hey ezra , anyone wanna help this mean judgmental monster and hater of humanity so called
ACTUALLY DEFEND THE ONE TRUE gospel
agaisnt them harlot Churches who have sold out to intefaith and beleive SUCH a lie .
NO one seems to help me defend the gospel against these wicked men of belial
and sadly most , WHEN THEY SEE me defending the gospel
say OH DONT JUDGE , YOU DONT Know their hearts . SPLAIN that please .
I OFfer up NO other hope BUT CHRIST ,
seems to me many offer up a false love which has rather made the road VERY VERY broad .
