Did Jesus rise Good Friday to Easter Sunday Morning according the Bible?

[Ronald Nolette]

I disagree. According to the proper interpretation of all four Gospel accounts, Jesus was in the tomb for three whole days and three whole nights.

show proof.

No but everyday culture doesn't use precise language. Jesus' prediction uses precise language because the details of a prophecy are the elements of falsification. If Jesus was only in the tomb for two nights, when he said he would be in the tomb for three nights, that would be an error.

In other passages He said three days, and on the third day- which all mean the same as three days and nights- Friday-Sunday as itis clearly shown in Scriptures.

Once again all three ways it is written all mean the same three days- Friday -through Sunday. If you wish to do the work you can churn out the datres and see that 15th Nisan that year fell on saturday!

Apparently, it isn't as straightforward as you suggest since Christians and atheists both argue the issue.

The solution is simple once one accounts for both the High Sabbath and the Weekly Sabbath.

As you say, the Jews account for the days from sunset to sunset. The Weekly Sabbath runs from Sunset Friday to Sunset Saturday. Let me abbreviate this as Friday/Saturday.

Passion Week

Passover -- Tuesday/Wednesday (crucifixion)
High Sabbath -- Wednesday/Thursday (Day one)
Day of preparation -- Thursday/Friday (Day two)
Weekly Sabbath -- Friday/Saturday (Day three)
Resurrection day -- Sunday

Well you are wrong! For Passover immediately precedes unleavened bread. As the feast of unleavened bread always runs from Sabbath to Sabbath you have uncoupled Passover from Pesach (which is an eight day festival for Jews). YOu have now made it a 10 day feast.

And you have erred about the high sabbath!

John 19:31
The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

lets make sabbath=saturday (which it does.) It now reads ...."should not remain on the cross on saturday, for that Saturday was a high Saturday!

Now while a high sabbath can occur outside of a Saturday- it is clear that John made it clear that this particular year the high Sabbath fell on a regular Sabbath day

 

[CadyandZoe]

show proof.

In other passages He said three days, and on the third day- which all mean the same as three days and nights- Friday-Sunday as itis clearly shown in Scriptures.

Once again all three ways it is written all mean the same three days- Friday -through Sunday. If you wish to do the work you can churn out the datres and see that 15th Nisan that year fell on saturday!

Well you are wrong! For Passover immediately precedes unleavened bread. As the feast of unleavened bread always runs from Sabbath to Sabbath you have uncoupled Passover from Pesach (which is an eight day festival for Jews). YOu have now made it a 10 day feast.

And you have erred about the high sabbath!

John 19:31
The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

lets make sabbath=saturday (which it does.) It now reads ...."should not remain on the cross on saturday, for that Saturday was a high Saturday!

Now while a high sabbath can occur outside of a Saturday- it is clear that John made it clear that this particular year the high Sabbath fell on a regular Sabbath day

I don't think you are talking to me. Are you? Because your critiques don't apply to what I said.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I don't think you are talking to me. Are you? Because your critiques don't apply to what I said.

They do apply. I addressed your time line and what was written in the gospel about how long Jesus said He would spend in the grave.

 

[Jay Ross]

They do apply. I addressed your time line and what was written in the gospel about how long Jesus said He would spend in the grave.

So did Christ die at the ninth hour of the day and entombed before the sun went down on the day of preparation in the afternoon before the day of the Passover started.

 

[marks]

Now while a high sabbath can occur outside of a Saturday- it is clear that John made it clear that this particular year the high Sabbath fell on a regular Sabbath day

Are you saying that if it were the standard Sabbath, that they would have been OK with the men still dying on the cross?

Perhaps the reason that John identified that this Sabbath was a High Sabbath because it wasn't actually the standard Sabbath?

Much love!

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

So did Christ die at the ninth hour of the day and entombed before the sun went down on the day of preparation in the afternoon before the day of the Passover started.

So indeed Jesus was risen before the First Day of the week Sunday, the Book says Mary saw Jesus who, she thought, was the gardener (who had come to work), as He from somewhere within the garden, approached her where she "had had stood after" at the tomb, John 20:11-17. Mark 16:9 says it was "early on the First Day"--sunup when a gardener was supposed to begin his work--that Jesus "as the risen, appeared to Mary M. first". So Jesus "was risen" before sunup "early on the First Day of the week".

But indeed, Jesus was risen before sunup "early on the First Day of the week" -- at least 6 hours before! Because Luke 24:1-2 recorded how Mary M and the other women "deepest of morning after midnight", had come to the tomb with spices prepared for to anoint the body which they thought was still in the tomb, "but the body they found not"---because Jesus was risen before the First Day of the week Sunday, as the Book says!

So indeed, Jesus was risen before sunup "early on the First Day of the week", and at least 12 hours before! Because John 20:1,2 recorded how Mary Magdalene alone on her own and before anyone else, "comes, sees the stone cast away from the tomb, then runs back", present action "it being still early of dark dusk the First Day of the week" that began sundown Saturday vespers---because Jesus was risen before the First Day of the week Sunday, as the Book says!

So ultimately Jesus was risen at least 15 hours before sunup "early on the First Day of the week" because Matthew 28:1-4 recorded how "Mary Magdalene and the other Mary, just as they had "set out to go have a look at the grave late on the Sabbath mid-afternoon THERE WAS A GREAT EARTHQUAKE and the angel cast the stone off from the grave. . ." and Jesus ROSE FROM THE DEAD, "as He had said while He lived, THE THIRD DAY, I RISE! ... WHICH DAY WAS THE DAY AFTER THE PREPARATION", of course "the Sabbath Day of the week being in the daylight inclining towards the First Day of the week."

Because of this Divine Scripture truth the whole Christian Church for more than a century now HAS BEEN UNITED as never in history before in its endeavor to DESTROY IT, AND COVER UP THE GREATEST LIE THE WORLD HAS EVER SEEN, THE SATANIC UNTRUTH THAT Christ rose from the dead on SUNDAY.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

...if it were the standard Sabbath, that they would have been OK with the men still dying on the cross?

Perhaps the reason that John identified that this Sabbath was a High Sabbath because it wasn't actually the standard Sabbath?

<if it were> so why ask?
John does NOT <identify that this Sabbath> (which Marks supposes was the weekly Sabbath), <was a High Sabbath>. He identifies it thus:

31 Ἦν γὰρ μεγάλη ἡ ἡμέρα ἐκείνου
because That Day was a great (day)

τοῦ σαββάτου ἐπεὶ οὖν Παρασκευὴ ἦν,
of the (passover) sabbath, and since Preparation then began,

ἵνα μὴ μείνῃ ἐπὶ τοῦ σταυροῦ τὰ σώματα ἐν τῷ σαββάτῳ,
that not (would) stay on the cross the bodies on the (prospective passover) sabbath,

οἱ Ἰουδαῖοι ἠρώτησαν τὸν Πειλᾶτον ἵνα κατεαγῶσιν αὐτῶν τὰ σκέλη καὶ ἀρθῶσιν.
the Jews asked Pilate that their legs must be broken and the bodies removed.

 

[CadyandZoe]

They do apply. I addressed your time line and what was written in the gospel about how long Jesus said He would spend in the grave.

Okay, if you say so. But I think you should argue for your objection rather than simply stating your objection. If you actually watched my video, you would not conclude, for instance, that I have 10 days in the Week of Unleavened Bread.

 

[CadyandZoe]

show proof.

In other passages He said three days, and on the third day- which all mean the same as three days and nights- Friday-Sunday as itis clearly shown in Scriptures.

Once again all three ways it is written all mean the same three days- Friday -through Sunday. If you wish to do the work you can churn out the datres and see that 15th Nisan that year fell on saturday!

Well you are wrong! For Passover immediately precedes unleavened bread. As the feast of unleavened bread always runs from Sabbath to Sabbath you have uncoupled Passover from Pesach (which is an eight day festival for Jews). YOu have now made it a 10 day feast.

And you have erred about the high sabbath!

John 19:31
The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

lets make sabbath=saturday (which it does.) It now reads ...."should not remain on the cross on saturday, for that Saturday was a high Saturday!

Now while a high sabbath can occur outside of a Saturday- it is clear that John made it clear that this particular year the high Sabbath fell on a regular Sabbath day

You are incorrect. John isn't saying that Saturday was a high Sabbath.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

 

[CadyandZoe]

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John is not saying that Saturday was a high Sabbath. Saturday was a weekly Sabbath.

 

[CadyandZoe]

Are you saying that if it were the standard Sabbath, that they would have been OK with the men still dying on the cross?

Perhaps the reason that John identified that this Sabbath was a High Sabbath because it wasn't actually the standard Sabbath?

Much love!

Yes, that's right. If it was a regular weekly Sabbath, John wouldn't need to say anything.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

So did Christ die at the ninth hour of the day and entombed before the sun went down on the day of preparation in the afternoon before the day of the Passover started.

Jesus was Crucified and died three hours before the sunset that would begin the Sixth Day of the week on which He would be buried and put in the grave three hours before the sunset that would begin the Seventh Day of the week Sabbath on which He would rise from the dead three hours before the sunset that would begin the First Day of the week.

The "three days" of "the heart" of Christ's Last Passover Suffering and Death, and Burial and Interment, and Resurrection and "LORDLY" Triumph, are CLEAR and CONSPICUOUS and UNMISTAKABLE: indicated with the standard Bible-demarcation of and for every new day: its beginning SUNDOWN DUSK OF EVENING EARLY OF DARK.

<So>, that means and demands
<Christ died at the ninth hour of the day> Mark 15:33-35 Matthew 27:45-47 Luke 23:44,45; and

was on the cross still, AFTER SUNDOWN DUSK OF EVENING EARLY OF DARK: Mark 15:42 Matthew 27:57 Luke 23:50 John 19:31,38, after which He in "That First Night" of (under normal circumstances BC), Unleavened Bread Feast would have been eaten; and

was taken from down from the cross by JOSEPH who later That Night was joined by Nikodemus,
who together "PREPARED" the body of Jesus, and only "the next day", "to the custom of the Jews to bury" (OT LAW), finally entombed Him, "shut the grave and went home", like did also the two Marys who attended and had "seen his body laid" in the grave <on the day of Preparation> "mid-afternoon the sun inclining towards the SABBATH" ... and the two women "started to rest the Sabbath according to the (Fourth) Commandment" --Friday AFTER SUNDOWN DUSK OF EVENING EARLY OF DARK of the Seventh Day. Luke 23:56 John 19:42.

 

[Jay Ross]

Jesus was Crucified and died three hours before the sunset that would begin the Sixth Day of the week on which He would be buried and put in the grave three hours before the sunset that would begin the Seventh Day of the week Sabbath on which He would rise from the dead three hours before the sunset that would begin the First Day of the week.

The "three days" of "the heart" of Christ's Last Passover Suffering and Death, and Burial and Interment, and Resurrection and "LORDLY" Triumph, are CLEAR and CONSPICUOUS and UNMISTAKABLE: indicated with the standard Bible-demarcation of and for every new day: its beginning SUNDOWN DUSK OF EVENING EARLY OF DARK.

<So>, that means and demands
<Christ died at the ninth hour of the day> Mark 15:33-35 Matthew 27:45-47 Luke 23:44,45; and

was on the cross still, AFTER SUNDOWN DUSK OF EVENING EARLY OF DARK: Mark 15:42 Matthew 27:57 Luke 23:50 John 19:31,38, after which He in "That First Night" of (under normal circumstances BC), Unleavened Bread Feast would have been eaten; and

was taken from down from the cross by JOSEPH who later That Night was joined by Nikodemus,
who together "PREPARED" the body of Jesus, and only "the next day", "to the custom of the Jews to bury" (OT LAW), finally entombed Him, "shut the grave and went home", like did also the two Marys who attended and had "seen his body laid" in the grave <on the day of Preparation> "mid-afternoon the sun inclining towards the SABBATH" ... and the two women "started to rest the Sabbath according to the (Fourth) Commandment" --Friday AFTER SUNDOWN DUSK OF EVENING EARLY OF DARK of the Seventh Day. Luke 23:56 John 19:42.

It seems that you have presented a very confusing understanding and did not answer the question that I asked.

The answer to my question is that Jesus died shortly after the 9th hour on the day of preparation for the Passover feast. John 19:31, tells us that Jesus died on the day of preparation one day before the Passover feast was due to be celebrated.

So the short answer to my question is, "Yes."

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

Nisan 14, AD30

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Are you saying that if it were the standard Sabbath, that they would have been OK with the men still dying on the cross?

Perhaps the reason that John identified that this Sabbath was a High Sabbath because it wasn't actually the standard Sabbath?

Much love!

John 19:31
The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

The language seems to say that no bodies were allowed to remain on any Sabbath, and they were also concerned that that Sabbath was a high sabbath

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Okay, if you say so. But I think you should argue for your objection rather than simply stating your objection. If you actually watched my video, you would not conclude, for instance, that I have 10 days in the Week of Unleavened Bread.

I realize your video does not have 1o days, but it simply does not coincide with the Word of God as written and what is known of the feast of unleavened bread!

also what is written in John

John 19:31
The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

You are incorrect. John isn't saying that Saturday was a high Sabbath.

Yes he was saying that Saturday was a high Saturday. There is no other way of understanding this unless you violate known rules of grammar. If one does, then any explanation is valid for you have tossed the rules that allow us to understand what is written and spoken out the window!

John 19:31
The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

Once again knowing two facts of Jewish life.

1. Sabbath was always a Saturday
2. High Sabbaths could occur outside of a Sabbath

Now let us translate this using Saturday as Sabbath

The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation (for Sabbath and to begin the feast of unleavened bread), that the bodies should remain on te corss on Saturday (for that Saturday was a high day) besought Pilate....

YOu say I am incorrect, so show me from grammar and knowledge why I am .

 

[CadyandZoe]

John 19:31
The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

The language seems to say that no bodies were allowed to remain on any Sabbath, and they were also concerned that that Sabbath was a high sabbath

But no, that is NOT what it means. John's explanation implies that the Sabbath was NOT a regular Sabbath. If it was a regular Sabbath, no explanation would be necessary.