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Some people will refer to the following verses in support of attending "church":Thanks in advance.
Apart from whether or not church is "required," church is a really big part of my life. There are times I don't attend services, but I am retired and spend several hours at the church each week doing volunteer work, which I find very rewarding.Thanks in advance.
You're making this kind of argument as if the Hebrew passage is taken out of context to mean something other than what it clearly says. Ironically enough, you're also misquoting Christ's words in Matt. 18:19-20 to accomplish that. That passage does not say "Christ is wherever 2 or 3 Christians gather in His name". The broader context in verses 15-20 shows Christ was clearly talking about how judicial matters were to be handled by the apostles in His Church.Some people will refer to the following verses in support of attending "church":
"And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:
Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching." Heb 10:24-25
But then some will consider the meaning of these verses with regard to physically meeting for praise, worship, study or...?
"Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.
For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them." Matt 18:19-20
You're making this kind of argument as if the Hebrew passage is taken out of context to mean something other than what it clearly says. Ironically enough, you're also misquoting Christ's words in Matt. 18:19-20 to accomplish that. That passage does not say "Christ is wherever 2 or 3 Christians gather in His name". The broader context in verses 15-20 shows Christ was clearly talking about how judicial matters were to be handled by the apostles in His Church.
Christ clearly said He didn't come to abolish the authority of the Law(Matt. 5:17), therefore He was upholding Lev. 23 commanding God's people to assemble together on the specified occasions for worship. God did not leave that up for people to treat as a recommendation or advice. The word "convocation" means "commanded assembly", not "optional assembly". The Christian's only choice is whether or not they believe God enough to do what He said.
The Apostles wrote letters to the churches throughout the region. Who were they writing to if not a church(s) that one should attend with pastors and teachers?Thanks in advance.
Great verse but the context is a sinning brother that there are 2 or 3 witnesses present to confront him with the intention of repentance. That is one of the most abused passages in Christendom and it has nothing whatsoever to do with prayer or gathering together as a body of believers for fellowship but everything to do with a sinning brother.Some people will refer to the following verses in support of attending "church":
"And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:
Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching." Heb 10:24-25
But then some will consider the meaning of these verses with regard to physically meeting for praise, worship, study or...?
"Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.
For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them." Matt 18:19-20
Did Jesus say that we are supposed to attend church?Great verse but the context is a sinning brother that there are 2 or 3 witnesses present to confront him with the intention of repentance. That is one of the most abused passages in Christendom and it has nothing whatsoever to do with prayer or gathering together as a body of believers for fellowship but everything to do with a sinning brother.
Dealing With Sin in the Church
15 “If your brother or sister sins, go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over. 16 But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’ 17 If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.
18 “Truly I tell you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.
19 “Again, truly I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything they ask for, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven. 20 For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them.”
hope this helps !!!
Evasion I was challenging your verse that was quoted our of context and misapplied.
What is your purpose in this? I posted as a help to the person who wrote the OP. I posted verses used by people. I made no declaration nor did I state any opinion or belief of my own.Evasion I was challenging your verse that was quoted our of context and misapplied.
hope this helps !!!
Spot on and sound hermeneutics.You're making this kind of argument as if the Hebrew passage is taken out of context to mean something other than what it clearly says. Ironically enough, you're also misquoting Christ's words in Matt. 18:19-20 to accomplish that. That passage does not say "Christ is wherever 2 or 3 Christians gather in His name". The broader context in verses 15-20 shows Christ was clearly talking about how judicial matters were to be handled by the apostles in His Church.
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What is your purpose in this? I posted as a help to the person who wrote the OP. I posted verses used by people. I made no declaration nor did I state any opinion or belief of my own.
Perhaps some people do as you say but then again sometimes people do not understand everything that God is saying in a verse. Has God ever sent more than one message in the same set of words? Who knows all of them in every instance? Certainly not me.People make the bible say allot of things that are not true and misapplied. The bible verses, chapters, books have a context as to why they were written and to whom they were intended for with regards to applying them appropriately.
Did Jesus say that we are supposed to attend church?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks in advance.
Thanks, I reread it but I won't be changing my favorable opinion.Amadeus: you liked my post before my final edit. Please go back and reread it... It was my fault. I posted it before finishing it by accident.
Well that has me interested. I absolutely believe in daily fellowshipping at home and have no problem with that. What I am curious about is why you believe Christ's Church is in you. I have heard the Christ is in us, the Kingdom of God is in us, God is in us and God the Father is in us. But I have never heard that the Church is in an individual.We fellowship daily at home and with whomever we see by plan, happenstance, stranger or not.
Christ's Church is within me.
Don't know of a Scripture that requires "going" to church.
Glory to God,
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Well that has me interested. I absolutely believe in daily fellowshipping at home and have no problem with that. What I am curious about is why you believe Christ's Church is in you. I have heard the Christ is in us, the Kingdom of God is in us, God is in us and God the Father is in us. But I have never heard that the Church is in an individual.
What I have heard (from going to Church and reading) is that the Church is made up of many individuals. In short.. We are in the Church... We make up the Church and the Body of Christ is one Body of many members.
But I would like to see the verse that explains the Church is in individuals such as you and I.