Did the Church changed the goalposts?

[Johann]

Three hundred years after Christ died at Calvary,

.... a church emerged that changed the goalposts of belief if you wanted to be saved concerning the title you must give to Christ.

That church was driven by scholars and theologians. To change the goalposts from the biblically stated belief to be saved, cannot have been inspired or led of the Holy Spirit.

Therefore, that church was driven by the academic minds of scholars and theologians.

The first century church was led of the Holy Spirit. Sadly, many today, especially on the internet, follow the church that changed the goalposts 300 years after Christ died at calvary. Anyone led of the Holy Spirit into truth knows God never changed the goalposts of what you must believe to inherit eternal life, it stayed the same from day one.

The above is from a member on this forum.
What is radically different re this post and not verifiable?
J.

 

[stephen64]

Three hundred years after Christ died at Calvary,

.... a church emerged that changed the goalposts of belief if you wanted to be saved concerning the title you must give to Christ.

That church was driven by scholars and theologians. To change the goalposts from the biblically stated belief to be saved, cannot have been inspired or led of the Holy Spirit.

Therefore, that church was driven by the academic minds of scholars and theologians.

The first century church was led of the Holy Spirit. Sadly, many today, especially on the internet, follow the church that changed the goalposts 300 years after Christ died at calvary. Anyone led of the Holy Spirit into truth knows God never changed the goalposts of what you must believe to inherit eternal life, it stayed the same from day one.

The above is from a member on this forum.

J.

That was in a discussion between us, I will happily post here exactly what I posted to you in the other thread:



Three hundred years after Christ died at Calvary, a church emerged that changed the goalposts of belief if you wanted to be saved concerning the title you must give to Christ. That church was driven by scholars and theologians. To change the goalposts from the biblically stated belief to be saved, cannot have been inspired or led of the Holy Spirit. Therefore, that church was driven by the academic minds of scholars and theologians. The first century church was led of the Holy Spirit. Sadly, many today, especially on the internet, follow the church that changed the goalposts 300 years after Christ died at calvary. Anyone led of the Holy Spirit into truth knows God never changed the goalposts of what you must believe to inherit eternal life, it stayed the same from day one


Quite simple. The title you must give Christ according to the bible to be saved is Son of God. The council of nicea changed that to God Himself. And, most on the internet follow the council of nicea on this, not the bible

I wrote:
I would add, the only way you can follow the truth of what is written is if you are led by the Holy Spirit into truth, for he is the Spirit of truth. Many do not rely on the Holy Spirit to lead them as they read, they just trust in their academic mind to lead them into truth

Johann responded: during the discussion:
''That is, IF you have the Holy Spirit''

I responded:
All I can say is, I do not follow scholars and theologians who changed the goalposts from the biblical belief as to whom you must title Christ to be saved, I stay with the biblical belief. The bible was inspired and led of the Holy Spirit. Those who changed the goalposts then of belief as written in the bible, cannot have been doing so by the leading of the Holy Spirit, and neither can those who follow them. Hope that answers the point

 

[Johann]

That was in a discussion between us, I will happily post here exactly what I posted to you in the other thread:



Three hundred years after Christ died at Calvary, a church emerged that changed the goalposts of belief if you wanted to be saved concerning the title you must give to Christ. That church was driven by scholars and theologians. To change the goalposts from the biblically stated belief to be saved, cannot have been inspired or led of the Holy Spirit. Therefore, that church was driven by the academic minds of scholars and theologians. The first century church was led of the Holy Spirit. Sadly, many today, especially on the internet, follow the church that changed the goalposts 300 years after Christ died at calvary. Anyone led of the Holy Spirit into truth knows God never changed the goalposts of what you must believe to inherit eternal life, it stayed the same from day one


Quite simple. The title you must give Christ according to the bible to be saved is Son of God. The council of nicea changed that to God Himself. And, most on the internet follow the council of nicea on this, not the bible

I wrote:
I would add, the only way you can follow the truth of what is written is if you are led by the Holy Spirit into truth, for he is the Spirit of truth. Many do not rely on the Holy Spirit to lead them as they read, they just trust in their academic mind to lead them into truth

Johann responded: during the discussion:
''That is, IF you have the Holy Spirit''

I responded:
All I can say is, I do not follow scholars and theologians who changed the goalposts from the biblical belief as to whom you must title Christ to be saved, I stay with the biblical belief. The bible was inspired and led of the Holy Spirit. Those who changed the goalposts then of belief as written in the bible, cannot have been doing so by the leading of the Holy Spirit, and neither can those who follow them. Hope that answers the point

This is why you and I cannot agree.
J.

 

[stephen64]

This is why you and I cannot agree.
J.

If you wish to try and show reasons other than have been stated for our disagreement, I can understand why you would try and do that. Our disagreement is based on something very simple. You follow a church rule introduced 300 years after Christ died at calvary in relation to the title he must be given to be saved. I follow the bible. And as I have already told you, I do not watch youtube videos of people professing a message

 

[Johann]

If you wish to try and show reasons other than have been stated for our disagreement, I can understand why you would try and do that. Our disagreement is based on something very simple. You follow a church rule introduced 300 years after Christ died at calvary in relation to the title he must be given to be saved. I follow the bible. And as I have already told you, I do not watch youtube videos of people professing a message

Are you a minister or a pastor, a man of the cloth?
J.

 

[stephen64]

Are you a minister or a pastor, a man of the cloth?
J.

No, just a christian(according to the bible anyway)

 

[Matthias]

Are you a minister or a pastor, a man of the cloth?
J.

He’s not. I am. What would you have said to him if he were?

 

[Robert Gwin]

Three hundred years after Christ died at Calvary,

.... a church emerged that changed the goalposts of belief if you wanted to be saved concerning the title you must give to Christ.

That church was driven by scholars and theologians. To change the goalposts from the biblically stated belief to be saved, cannot have been inspired or led of the Holy Spirit.

Therefore, that church was driven by the academic minds of scholars and theologians.

The first century church was led of the Holy Spirit. Sadly, many today, especially on the internet, follow the church that changed the goalposts 300 years after Christ died at calvary. Anyone led of the Holy Spirit into truth knows God never changed the goalposts of what you must believe to inherit eternal life, it stayed the same from day one.

The above is from a member on this forum.
What is radically different re this post and not verifiable?
J.

No! God never changes, nor does His laws sir. However, at this time we are under a new covenant, with different laws than we had prior to Jesus coming to earth. Jesus feeds his sheep through the faithful slave sir. Mat 24:45