Hell : Then the Lake of Fire

[Behold]

Reader....

Hell was created for the Devil and His fallen angels", before Adam was created who rebelled and took on the nature of the Devil.

So, that "nature" is the "Adamic" nature.. Its the sin nature or the "fallen nature" that is passed unto us all, as..

"by one man's sin, sin and death entered the world".

Its on YOU and ME........until we are "made free from sin". = Born... again.. Spiritually.

So, in this world there are only Believers, born again, and Unbeliever's, who are not born again.

Some who think they are born again, are not, but they can sound like they are a Christian.
They can even sow the good works of a Christian. They can start churches and write books and commentaries.
They can even start "christian forums"..
They are RELIGIOUS but lost... They have a "Form of Godliness, but deny the power thereof.".

They SOUND like a Christian, they even believe themselves to be one..

They are not.

So, THOSE are counted as "unbelievers", and they will have "their part in the Lake of Fire that is the 2nd Death"..

And that DEATH is not annihilation. that is Eternal Damnation.

How long will the Damned be damned?

Well starting with dying not born again, they will exist in Damnation, in the Lake of Fire, for as Long as God lives.

They will not be given a second chance, in Hell nor in the Lake of Fire, because you can't be born again, once you DIE down here.

Christ died on THIS EARTH, and you have to be BELIEVE in Jesus and be born again on THIS EARTH, or you will die, in "Damnation" and you will never have an opportunity to change that, once you leave this earth .

JOHN 3:36

So, if you are not a Christian.....then you can become one right now..

See that Cross of Christ? That is Jesus paying for your sin, so that you dont have to after you die.

GO to HIM.... Trust Him, and God will make Heaven your Home today, and you never again have to worry about going to Hell.

Thats a promise, and God does not lie.

"ALL who call on the Name of JESUS, shall be saved".

Jesus told you....."All who Believe in me... I GIVE UNTO YOU>.. Eternal Life and you shall never go to Hell (Perish)""

Believe it.

 

[Hobie]

Reader....

Hell was created for the Devil and His fallen angels", before Adam was created who rebelled and took on the nature of the Devil.

So, that "nature" is the "Adamic" nature.. Its the sin nature or the "fallen nature" that is passed unto us all, as..

"by one man's sin, sin and death entered the world".

Its on YOU and ME........until we are "made free from sin". = Born... again.. Spiritually.

So, in this world there are only Believers, born again, and Unbeliever's, who are not born again.

Some who think they are born again, are not, but they can sound like they are a Christian.
They can even sow the good works of a Christian. They can start churches and write books and commentaries.
They can even start "christian forums"..
They are RELIGIOUS but lost... They have a "Form of Godliness, but deny the power thereof.".

They SOUND like a Christian, they even believe themselves to be one..

They are not.

So, THOSE are counted as "unbelievers", and they will have "their part in the Lake of Fire that is the 2nd Death"..

And that DEATH is not annihilation. that is Eternal Damnation.

How long will the Damned be damned?

Well starting with dying not born again, they will exist in Damnation, in the Lake of Fire, for as Long as God lives.

They will not be given a second chance, in Hell nor in the Lake of Fire, because you can't be born again, once you DIE down here.

Christ died on THIS EARTH, and you have to be BELIEVE in Jesus and be born again on THIS EARTH, or you will die, in "Damnation" and you will never have an opportunity to change that, once you leave this earth .

JOHN 3:36

So, if you are not a Christian.....then you can become one right now..

See that Cross of Christ? That is Jesus paying for your sin, so that you dont have to after you die.

GO to HIM.... Trust Him, and God will make Heaven your Home today, and you never again have to worry about going to Hell.

Thats a promise, and God does not lie.

"ALL who call on the Name of JESUS, shall be saved".

Jesus told you....."All who Believe in me... I GIVE UNTO YOU>.. Eternal Life and you shall never go to Hell (Perish)""

Believe it.

So where is "Hell" today? No my brother, 'Hell', is the lake of fire that like Sodom and Gommorah, will rain down from heaven at the end, and only then will the wicked be burned up and consumed.

 

[Behold]

So where is "Hell" today? No my brother, '

Where is "Hell" found today, by Thousands who will go there... and many are water baptized?

Where is it FOUND, @Hobie

Its FOUND, at the end of a Christ REJECTING= Life.

John 3:36

That's how you find HELL= TODAY, and that is why a person goes there, sooner than they realized., as Hebrews 9:27 came as a surprise.... and they WENT.

Dont be that one, Reader.

 

[Jack]

Reader....

Hell was created for the Devil and His fallen angels", before Adam was created who rebelled and took on the nature of the Devil.

So, that "nature" is the "Adamic" nature.. Its the sin nature or the "fallen nature" that is passed unto us all, as..

"by one man's sin, sin and death entered the world".

Its on YOU and ME........until we are "made free from sin". = Born... again.. Spiritually.

So, in this world there are only Believers, born again, and Unbeliever's, who are not born again.

Some who think they are born again, are not, but they can sound like they are a Christian.
They can even sow the good works of a Christian. They can start churches and write books and commentaries.
They can even start "christian forums"..
They are RELIGIOUS but lost... They have a "Form of Godliness, but deny the power thereof.".

They SOUND like a Christian, they even believe themselves to be one..

They are not.

So, THOSE are counted as "unbelievers", and they will have "their part in the Lake of Fire that is the 2nd Death"..

And that DEATH is not annihilation. that is Eternal Damnation.

How long will the Damned be damned?

Well starting with dying not born again, they will exist in Damnation, in the Lake of Fire, for as Long as God lives.

They will not be given a second chance, in Hell nor in the Lake of Fire, because you can't be born again, once you DIE down here.

Christ died on THIS EARTH, and you have to be BELIEVE in Jesus and be born again on THIS EARTH, or you will die, in "Damnation" and you will never have an opportunity to change that, once you leave this earth .

JOHN 3:36

So, if you are not a Christian.....then you can become one right now..

See that Cross of Christ? That is Jesus paying for your sin, so that you dont have to after you die.

GO to HIM.... Trust Him, and God will make Heaven your Home today, and you never again have to worry about going to Hell.

Thats a promise, and God does not lie.

"ALL who call on the Name of JESUS, shall be saved".

Jesus told you....."All who Believe in me... I GIVE UNTO YOU>.. Eternal Life and you shall never go to Hell (Perish)""

Believe it.

Fantastic !!! PTL!

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

Fantastic !!! PTL!

Question

Reader....

Hell was created for the Devil and His fallen angels", before Adam was created who rebelled and took on the nature of the Devil.

So, that "nature" is the "Adamic" nature.. Its the sin nature or the "fallen nature" that is passed unto us all, as..

"by one man's sin, sin and death entered the world".

Its on YOU and ME........until we are "made free from sin". = Born... again.. Spiritually.

So, in this world there are only Believers, born again, and Unbeliever's, who are not born again.

Some who think they are born again, are not, but they can sound like they are a Christian.
They can even sow the good works of a Christian. They can start churches and write books and commentaries.
They can even start "christian forums"..
They are RELIGIOUS but lost... They have a "Form of Godliness, but deny the power thereof.".

They SOUND like a Christian, they even believe themselves to be one..

They are not.

So, THOSE are counted as "unbelievers", and they will have "their part in the Lake of Fire that is the 2nd Death"..

And that DEATH is not annihilation. that is Eternal Damnation.

How long will the Damned be damned?

Well starting with dying not born again, they will exist in Damnation, in the Lake of Fire, for as Long as God lives.

They will not be given a second chance, in Hell nor in the Lake of Fire, because you can't be born again, once you DIE down here.

Christ died on THIS EARTH, and you have to be BELIEVE in Jesus and be born again on THIS EARTH, or you will die, in "Damnation" and you will never have an opportunity to change that, once you leave this earth .

JOHN 3:36

So, if you are not a Christian.....then you can become one right now..

See that Cross of Christ? That is Jesus paying for your sin, so that you dont have to after you die.

GO to HIM.... Trust Him, and God will make Heaven your Home today, and you never again have to worry about going to Hell.

Thats a promise, and God does not lie.

"ALL who call on the Name of JESUS, shall be saved".

Jesus told you....."All who Believe in me... I GIVE UNTO YOU>.. Eternal Life and you shall never go to Hell (Perish)""

Believe it.

" They SOUND like a Christian, they even believe themselves to be one.."

If they believe they are a Christian, but are not.... then they will die and it will be too late?

That somehow saddens me.

 

[Jack]

Hell will be filled with BILLIONS of humans. But God will be totally FAIR on Judgment Day!

 

[Behold]

Question

" They SOUND like a Christian, they even believe themselves to be one.."

If they believe they are a Christian, but are not.... then they will die and it will be too late?

That somehow saddens me.

Can a person be a Math Teacher, and not know any Math?

Can a person be a Banker, and not know how to count money?

Can a person ba CHRISTian, and have no idea what The Cross of Christ, has done for you?

Can a person post on Forums for 10 yrs, and say..."The Cross is not about forgiveness of Sin", and that person, have a relationship with God through Christ?

Is a person trusting in Christ, if they dont believe that Jesus keeps them saved?

Reader, here is what i can tell you about Hell..

Everyone who has died in unbelief, never born again, .... since you started reading this Post......now believes in Hell, and they also Believe in Jesus and are calling out to God and to Jesus.
And its not going to help them.

 

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[Aunty Jane]

So, THOSE are counted as "unbelievers", and they will have "their part in the Lake of Fire that is the 2nd Death"..

And that DEATH is not annihilation. that is Eternal Damnation.

There is no such thing as eternal damnation……what the Bible teaches is that we have a choice between life and death…two opposites. “Heaven and hell” are not opposites and never were.
If Bible translators were not so indoctrinated with Catholic falsehoods we might have had an opportunity to read an unadulterated Bible….but sadly belief in an immortal soul that cannot die, has been promoted along with the doctrine that enabled it…..”immortality of the soul”.

If one does not accept Jesus as their savior, Christendom teaches that their soul is tortured forever by a God of love……that does not seem to mesh. A God of love could never torture anyone for all eternity, with no way to repent. That is not the God and Father of Jesus Christ, who told the prophet Jeremiah, when his unfaithful nation of Israel had sunk to practicing child sacrifice….

Jeremiah 7: 31…
”And they have built the high places of Toʹpheth, which is in the valley of the son of Hinʹnom, in order to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire, a thing that I had not commanded and that had not come up into my heart.’”
God’s response shows his repugnance at such a practice, so how could he torture and burn his own children?

How long will the Damned be damned?

Well starting with dying not born again, they will exist in Damnation, in the Lake of Fire, for as Long as God lives.

What a wonderful god you worship……he is a fiend and a sadist…..how on earth can you love a god like that?

They will not be given a second chance, in Hell nor in the Lake of Fire, because you can't be born again, once you DIE down here.

What does being “born again” entail? Do those “born again” just believe that they are, or do they have some kind of proof for this being the case? I find most who claim to be “born again” have trouble explaining what it means. Coupled with that is a lack of knowledge as to why they are chosen and what they will do in heaven….they cannot tell me what God’s Kingdom is that Jesus taught us to pray for.

For the apostles and others there was physical proof of their selection as “saints”, seen in the gifts of the spirit…but later Paul indicated that the gifts would cease and that Christians had to grow to maturity by manifesting the three things that matter most in a Christian’s life…..”faith, hope and love”. These things would prove that a Christian was genuine. (1 Cor 13:8-13)

You cannot be born again unless you know what it means and even then, it is not something any of us can choose….it is a “selection”…a “choosing” that puts one in line for a position in the kingdom of God as a king and a priest. (Rev 20:6) God does the choosing….not us.

So, if you are not a Christian.....then you can become one right now..

See that Cross of Christ? That is Jesus paying for your sin, so that you dont have to after you die.

And fear is the prime motivation for becoming a Christian, so you don’t get roasted after you die for all eternity…? Good grief! What kind of God do you worship?

We have two choices…..life or death. That’s it. There is no “heaven or hell” and God has better things to do that torture tmillions of souls forever….listening to their cries of pain and anguish….This god you worship is an invention of the Catholic church….he does not exist in the Bible.
Not a single punishment under God’s law to Israel involved prolonged torture. Capital crimes merited the death penalty in which case a person died for their own sins. But Christ’s sacrifice guaranteed them a resurrection. (John 5:28-29) All were to come forth from their graves, both the good and the bad, because they were still in them. Their judgment will put them into one of only two categories…..those who died faithful would inherit everlasting life, and those who had lived and died without any knowledge of God would be given a judgment period of 1000 years where Christ and his elect will bring all redeemed humanity back to paradise on earth where we should have been all along. Anyone not bringing their lives into harmony with God’s requirements would have the gift of life withdrawn……eternal death is what awaits them, not eternal suffering.

GO to HIM.... Trust Him, and God will make Heaven your Home today, and you never again have to worry about going to Hell.

Thats a promise, and God does not lie.

Heaven was never offered as a home for humans in the beginning….mortals were to enjoy everlasting life right here in paradise on earth, free from the consequences of the sin that followed their rebellion.
We are to get back what Adam forfeited for himself and all his children. (Rev 21:2-3)
What God starts, he finishes. (Isa 55:11)

ALL who call on the Name of JESUS, shall be saved".

Atually the Scripture says all who “call on the name of Yahweh” will be saved….you need to study your Bible a bit more closely….Jesus is the facilitator of everlasting life, not the provider of it. Through his sacrifice we have a hope, but if we pursue a relationship with God based on fear, and not genuine love….it cannot be ours. The first commandment for a Christian is to “love God with our whole heart, mind and strength”….this is the only basis for our relationship with the God whom Jesus came to show us.

Jesus told you....."All who Believe in me... I GIVE UNTO YOU>.. Eternal Life and you shall never go to Hell (Perish)""

What do you think it means to “perish” ? Look it up….
Read Matt 10:28….
”And do not become fearful of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul; rather, fear him who can destroy both soul and body in Ge·henʹna.” What happens to those in “Gehenna”? ( often erroneously translated as “hell”) They are “destroyed”…perhaps you should look that up too….

We all go to hell (hades)…..it is simply mankind’s grave.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

No, it is Hades, then the Lake of Fire ( which is Hell). Hades and Death will be cast into the Lake of Fire and be destroyed along with Satan, His demons and all unbelievers. It is more of an event. The Jews got an idea of what the afterlife was like for those whonwere not reconciled to God from the Gehenna, a perpetually smoldering garbage dump outside of Jersulaem where bodies of dead animals were taken where the worm never dies because the worms would fed on bodies on the perimeter, not directly in the center flames so survived. The Canannites used to sacrifice babies on red hot iron altat to their God, Molech in this same spot. Jesus condemned the Pharisees when He said , You serpents, you brood of vipers,
how are you to escape being sent to the Gehenna (Hell) Matt. 23:33
Tartarus is the Abyss, the Bottomless Pit, which is a lower part of Hades ( assigned to demons).
Someday the first earth and first heavens will be destroyed on a fervent heat (2 Peter 3:10). .Hades is the underworld, physically part of this earth that will someday be destroyed. 2 Peter 3:10 describes this final judgment event as the Lake of Fire when all former things pass away and are burned up.
There is fire beneath the crust of the earth. Luke 16 describes the Rich man in Hades, in flames. But they are not destructive flames for He is conscious, thirsty and in torment.

 

[Beebster]

Hell was not created for Satan and his angels simply because hell does not exist.

Nobody is going to some fabled hell-hole to be tortured for eternity or to be annihilated.

Christ is our Saviour and he is a very good one:

And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.

He was sent here by his Father for a reason:

And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. (1 John 4:14)

Jesus Christ is not a failure; he will save the whole world.

Peace.

 

[Behold]

Hell was not created for Satan and his angels simply because hell does not exist.

"Hell was created for the devil and his angels"... before Adam was created.

People often accuse God of "sending people to Hell", but that is not the correct understanding.. The correct understanding is that God offers to accept your Faith in Christ as the "WAY" to be reconciled to God,...JOHN 14:6... John 3:16.... and if a person wont have it and they die, then they end up where those who are never born again, (Christ rejectors) all end up.

Reader, Christ rejectors, never born again, are not a part of the Body of Christ//The Eternal Family of God , so.. God is not going to put the Christ Rejectors, never born agian....in the same eternal place ... with those who Trusted in Christ, and are born again.
So...They ALL have to go somewhere.

So, why HELL?

Because Hell was created for the Devil and His Angels.. ., and Heaven is not that Place.

Let me show you what your Pastor, Pope, Bishop, is not explaining to you. that you need to understand.

Listen..

There are 2 Spiritual Fathers..

1.) Almighty God, the Father of Jesus.

2.) The God of this world....... The Devil.

Jesus said of ALL UNBELIEVERS......"You are of YOUR Father, the devil"... and so, if that never changes... if you are never born again by a NEW Spiritual Father, and you die.... then you end up with the Devil, and Hell was created for Him, and so there you will Go to be with your Spiritual Father.

Whereas,
... if you are born again by another Spiritual Father, Almighty GOD... who is the Father of Jesus.. The Father of the born again, ...then when you die, you end up with HIM, and HE is in Heaven, and there you will go to be with Your Heavenly Father.
In Fact if you are born again, you are already "seated in heavenly places, in Christ"... as "one with God".. right now.

Reader...

If you are thinking that you should trust in Christ, but have been waiting...........then find a bible or go online, and read this verse.
Hebrews 9:27,
and do not wait any more, as that appointment is coming for YOU, and you do not know when.
Maybe it will be today. So, do not wait .. Trust in Christ , NOW... Open your heart to Jesus... Trust Him as your Savior the best way you know how with your heart, and God will take you. See, if you take Jesus, then God will take you......
Get your eternity settled right now... and then you can rest assured from now on... that after you die, you will meet God as your FATHER and not as your Eternal JUDGE.
= dont wait.

 

[PS95]

Auntie Jane,
WE have 2 choices, yes. They are life or death, yes, but you failed to say HOW we get life.
We have 2 choices. it's DEATH OR CHRIST!
YOU Jehovahs witlesses. deny that. I know that you like to keep it hush hush, but You teach that Jesus did not die for our sins! Only Adams's sin. YOU teach that when you die that you are paying for your own sins in the hope that you did enough to be resurrected to 1000 yrs but if you sin once you will die. You can't take the place of Christ and sacrifice yourself! You will be rejected for you are not spotless nor blameless and you have rejected the ONLY SON OF GOD.
It's incredible to me that anyone listens to you.Why do they? Because you arent truthful about your beliefs.

Call on the name of Jesus and accept the free gift of God- forgiveness of your sins which leads to eternal life!

 

[Beebster]

"Hell was created for the devil and his angels"... before Adam was created.

That is an unscriptural opinion.

People often accuse God of "sending people to Hell", but that is not the correct understanding.. The correct understanding is that God offers to accept your Faith in Christ as the "WAY" to be reconciled to God,...JOHN 14:6... John 3:16....

That too, is an unscriptural opinion.

And I shall be asking the Father, and He will be giving you another consoler, that it, indeed, may be with you for the eon -" (John 14:16)

For thus God loves the world, so that He gives His only-begotten Son, that everyone who is believing in Him should not be perishing, but may be having life eonian." (John 3:16)

Neither of these verses has God “accept[ing] your Faith in Christ as the "WAY" to be reconciled to God,...”

and if a person wont have it and they die, then they end up where those who are never born again, (Christ rejectors) all end up.
Reader, Christ rejectors, never born again, are not a part of the Body of Christ//The Eternal Family of God , so.. God is not going to put the Christ Rejectors, never born agian....in the same eternal place ... with those who Trusted in Christ, and are born again.
So...They ALL have to go somewhere.

So, why HELL?

Nobody goes to hell. Non-believers will be cast into the lake of fire where they will learn righteousness.

With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I seek thee early: for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world WILL LEARN RIGHTEOUSNESS. (Isa 26:9)

Jesus said of ALL UNBELIEVERS......"You are of YOUR Father, the devil"...

No, he said that to the Pharisees not “ALL UNBELIEVERS.”

and so, if that never changes... if you are never born again by a NEW Spiritual Father, and you die.... then you end up with the Devil, and Hell was created for Him, and so there you will Go to be with your Spiritual Father.

The lake of fire is not hell.

Whereas,... if you are born again by another Spiritual Father, Almighty GOD... who is the Father of Jesus.. The Father of the born again, ...then when you die, you end up with HIM, and HE is in Heaven, and there you will go to be with Your Heavenly Father.
In Fact if you are born again, you are already "seated in heavenly places, in Christ"... as "one with God".. right now.

I’m curious, where do you think heaven is?

Get your eternity settled right now... and then you can rest assured from now on... that after you die, you will meet God as your FATHER and not as your Eternal JUDGE.
= dont wait.

I only know of one being that has or ever will have “eternal life” and that is God the Father.

Peace.

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

Hell was not created for Satan and his angels simply because hell does not exist.

Nobody is going to some fabled hell-hole to be tortured for eternity or to be annihilated.

Christ is our Saviour and he is a very good one:

And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.

He was sent here by his Father for a reason:

And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. (1 John 4:14)

Jesus Christ is not a failure; he will save the whole world.

So the suicide bombers expect when they receive their 70 virgins.

Peace.

You seem to forget that originally Christ was not sent here for the world....

HE said... Matt 15:24

But He answered and said, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

HE also said ... John 14:6

Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.

There is no verse in the four corners of the Holy Bible that says He was sent to save the whole world.

Remeber that

 

[Beebster]

So the suicide bombers expect when they receive their 70 virgins.

You seem to have missed where I stated

Nobody goes to hell. Non-believers will be cast into the lake of fire where they will learn righteousness.

With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I seek thee early: for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world WILL LEARN RIGHTEOUSNESS. (Isa 26:9)

You seem to forget that originally Christ was not sent here for the world....


HE said... Matt 15:24

But He answered and said, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

I dont see the word "originally" in that verse do you?

Abraham and John are not liars:

And Isaac spake unto Abraham his father, and said, My father: and he said, Here am I, my son. And he said,
Behold the fire and the wood: but where is the lamb for a burnt offering?

And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: (Gen 22:7-8)

The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. (John 1:29)

That seems a bit more "original" to me.

HE also said ... John 14:6


Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.

And that is true, but you seem to forget:

That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; (Phil 2:10)

in heaven, in earth, under the earth; that's everyone.

There is no verse in the four corners of the Holy Bible that says He was sent to save the whole world.


Remeber that

I will Certainly remember you said that.

And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. (1 Jn 4:14)

For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. (John 3:17)

And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. (John 12:47)

Of course you "believe not." You think we have to save ourselves.

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

You seem to have missed where I stated



I dont see the word "originally" in that verse do you?

Allow me to rephrase that for you.

King Jimmy's translation says. Matt 15:24 But He answered and said, “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

Why did Jesus say that? What was the purpose?

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

And this means?

Let us consider exactly what Jesus said to Nicodemus.

John 3:3

Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Not every one who has been born will be or were born again. That is fact.

Abraham and John are not liars:

And Isaac spake unto Abraham his father, and said, My father: and he said, Here am I, my son. And he said,
Behold the fire and the wood: but where is the lamb for a burnt offering?

And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: (Gen 22:7-8)

The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. (John 1:29)

That seems a bit more "original" to me.


And that is true, but you seem to forget:

That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; (Phil 2:10)

SHOULD..... It does not say will.

in heaven, in earth, under the earth; that's everyone.

I will Certainly remember you said that.

And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. (1 Jn 4:14)

You must know that you have to be born again?

If you dont... there is nothing more to be said.

For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. (John 3:17)

And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. (John 12:47)

Of course you "believe not." You think we have to save ourselves.

You and Nicodemus. Good luck with that.

Christ Jesus came to save the world.... but it has to want to be saved. It is not automatic.

 

[Behold]

That is an unscriptural opinion.

that's actually a bible verse.

Matthew 25:41. (KJV)

That too, is an unscriptural opinion.

Let me show you were Hell is discovered.. @Beebster
Its Discovered at the end of a Christ Rejecting life.
See it? Its right THERE...
And let me be more clear for YOU..
Thousands of people died and went to hell today..........and all of them believe in it now., every single person.... tho some of them argued during their lifetime that Hell does not exist.
Now they know it does.

Nobody goes to hell. Non-believers will be cast into the lake of fire where they will learn righteousness.

No one learns Righteousness in the Lake of Fire.
But everyone who is born again, who has received Christ as their Savior while they are ALIVE, will not be going to Hell after they die.
Everyone else, does.

With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I seek thee early: for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world WILL LEARN RIGHTEOUSNESS. (Isa 26:9)

Your cult teaches that Moses Laws and Statues, and the 10 Coandments that all make up "thy judgments"... Your cult has redefined all this as the Lake of Fire, as a sort of Catholic Purgatory experience.


This stuff you are sharing...is what Ministers like me refer as "that theology is kinda crazy".

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

That is an unscriptural opinion.


That too, is an unscriptural opinion.

And I shall be asking the Father, and He will be giving you another consoler, that it, indeed, may be with you for the eon -" (John 14:16)

For thus God loves the world, so that He gives His only-begotten Son, that everyone who is believing in Him should not be perishing, but may be having life eonian." (John 3:16)

Neither of these verses has God “accept[ing] your Faith in Christ as the "WAY" to be reconciled to God,...”


Nobody goes to hell. Non-believers will be cast into the lake of fire where they will learn righteousness.

THIS IS UNSCRIPTURAL....

With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I seek thee early: for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world WILL LEARN RIGHTEOUSNESS. (Isa 26:9)

No, he said that to the Pharisees not “ALL UNBELIEVERS.”

The lake of fire is not hell.

I’m curious, where do you think heaven is?

I only know of one being that has or ever will have “eternal life” and that is God the Father.

And that explains it all.

Have a nice life.

Peace.

 

[Beebster]

that's actually a bible verse.

Matthew 25:41. (KJV)

Mat 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

Well, Mat 25:41 is a bible verse however I see the word "hell" nowhere in it. Do you?
I certainly don't see any explanation about it being created "before Adam was created."

Furthermore "everlasting" is a very poor translation of the Greek word "aionios"

Try this from the CLV:

Then shall He be declaring to those also at His left, 'Go from Me, you cursed, into the fire eonian, made ready for the Adversary and his messengers."

Let me show you were Hell is discovered.. @Beebster

Its Discovered at the end of a Christ Rejecting life.

Unscriptural opinion.

See it? Its right THERE...

Sorry no.

And let me be more clear for YOU..

Thousands of people died and went to hell today..........and all of them believe in it now., every single person.... tho some of them argued during their lifetime that Hell does not exist.
Now they know it does.

Here's a bit of wisdom; take or leave it.

Dead people are dead.

For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward;
for the memory of them is forgotten. (Ecc 9:5)

No one learns Righteousness in the Lake of Fire.

I understand why you fell that way; after all that was just my opinion.

But everyone who is born again, who has received Christ as their Savior while they are ALIVE, will not be going to Hell after they die.

Everyone else, does.

And do we have chapter and verse on that?
I didn't think so.

Your cult teaches that Moses Laws and Statues, and the 10 Coandments that all make up "thy judgments"... Your cult has redefined all this as the Lake of Fire, as a sort of Catholic Purgatory experience.

This stuff you are sharing...is what Ministers like me refer as "that theology is kinda crazy".

Wait what? You're a minister? Oooof!

My people hath been lost sheep: their shepherds have caused them to go astray, they have turned them away on the mountains: they have gone from mountain to hill, they have forgotten their restingplace. (Jer 50:6)