Lambano
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Divine Authority - The use and abuse
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Divine Authority - The use and abuse
Kingdom business is done in the name (divine authority) of Jesus' name.- Jesus gave His disciples authority over demons and to heal the sick (scripture below)
- The disciples observed others, outside the group, using the authority of Jesus' name. (scripture below)
- Jesus said that in the judgement, some will report having used the authority of His name to do miracles.
But he will declare that He never knew them. (scripture below)
- God has raised us up and seated us with Christ in the heavenly realms. (scripture below)
Much more to say about this. But this is enough for now.
Matthew 10:1 NIV
Jesus called his twelve disciples to him and gave them authority
to drive out impure spirits and to heal every disease and sickness.
Luke 10:17 NIV
The seventy-two returned with joy and said,
“Lord, even the demons submit to us in your name.”
Mark 9:38 NIV
“Teacher,” said John, “we saw someone driving out demons in your name
and we told him to stop, because he was not one of us.”
Matthew 7:22-23 NIV
Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name
and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’
23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
Ephesians 2:6 NIV
And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus,
Discussion questions:
- What is the use of divine authority?
- What is the abuse of divine authority?
One can only speak in the name of Jesus if He has given you that authority, that's what the passages you quoted states.
That's a good question. Who has been given this authority?
Matthew 10:8 NIV
Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy,[a] drive out demons.
Freely you have received; freely give.
@gods
Jesus gave that authority to the twelve, not me.
As such Matt 7:22-23 can be understood.
If one speak in someones name one must have received the authority of that someone.
When people speak in Jesus name (but never received His authority) is Jesus obliged to show up and obey ?
I don't think so.
Jesus gave that authority to the twelve, not me.
As such Matt 7:22-23 can be understood.
If one speak in someones name one must have received the authority of that someone.
When people speak in Jesus name (but never received His authority) is Jesus obliged to show up and obey ?
I don't think so.
soberxp
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Wouldn't that mean that currently NO ONE has God-given authority to act in Jesus' name?
Why would that have ended with the apostles?
What if they are operating in divine authority without making any claims?
Doesn't the church claim divine authority in worship services and baptisms?
soberxp
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It is precisely because people borrowed the so-called divine authority,Let it lose the authority IT should have.
All The church and the believers are all servants of God.No one has more than anyone else.all Authority comes from God, not from someone or a church.
In my opinion, anyone and any church declare they have some kind of authority,Is a kind of arrogant attitude.It's not humble, it's blaspheme.For example, someone claims to be an apostle, a prophet and a disciple.
So Anyone who claims to have divine authority is blasphemous.____soberxp.
amigo de christo
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by outside the group You better not be implying they followed other gods .
By outside the group it simply meant OTHER TRUE BELIEVERS IN JESUS who were preaching JESUS and healing
others and etc in HIS NAME . Not this kumbyia idea that the false religons serve the same GOD we do stuff .
THAT IS A LIE . however its true not every saints meets at the ONE SAME PLACE .
There are saints scattered ALL OVER this world and they ALL BELIEVE IN JESUS and in SPIRIT , not location , THEY ARE ONE in CHRIST .
Now notice when the jews of sceva , WHO DID NOT follow CHRIST , but had decided to use His name
TO cast out d emons . FRIEND they got overcame . for one cannot simply USE the name of JESUS and yet
not truly follow him . Lip service ALONE is BAD NEWS and false . It must be CONFESSION BY MOUTH
and BELEIVING FROM THE HEART . So lip service alone is dead faith .
but dead faith is also NOT EVEN CONFESSING HIS NAME . MUST BE BOTH .
FOR any true beleiver WOULD BELIEVE ON HIM and WOULD HAVE HAD THE GOOD WORKS supplied BY HIS SPIRIT
at work in them as PROOF . just a friendly reminder .
Marvelloustime
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All believers can act with divine authority.
We are ambassadors for Christ.
Ambassadors have authority to act on behalf of their kingdom.
2 Corinthians 5:20 NIV
We are therefore Christ’s ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us.
We implore you on Christ’s behalf: Be reconciled to God.
soberxp
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2 Peter 1:21For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
It is the word of God have the power and divine authority, not us.
We just the Servant of god work for the word of God.
All believers can act with divine authority only with the word of God.
The divine authority only with the word of God.not come from the lip of any man.
So Anyone who claims to have divine authority is blasphemous.____soberxp.
Let me remind you that false teachers, false Christians(fake Christ) and false prophets all come from this question.
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Behold
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The Blood Atonement Power of any Christian, comes from the Divine Authority of God.
So, if a person is Born again, wtih Jesus in them, then they are an "Heir of God" and a "joint Heir with Jesus" having become an "heir of the world", and have divine authority.
Reader....= All Christians are of the "seed" of Abraham,= (Jesus)...... having become born again "citizens of heaven" and therefore every Christians is....
>""""""as Jesus IS...so are the born again in THIS WORLD".""""<
So, we see in all this the revelation of the divine authority of the Believer.
This is why a Christian uses words of Faith (Prayer) as that is divine spiritual authority in action.
This is why when the Apostle told Ananias and Sapphira they were going to drop dead, ....they did.
This is why when Paul The Apostle told the Male Witch to "go blind for a season". He went blind as COMMANDED by Paul.
This is why any born again Christian has God given authority to "call those things that be not as if they were".
Its our Divine Authority that allows us to "come boldly to the Throne of (God's) Grace to find HELP in time of need".
Now, Reader.........if you are just some Moses Law chasing legalist fakir,.... some religious but lost "chrisitan" pretender" who is nothing more then water baptized and very religious, then you dont have any Divine Authority, because you are not even a Christian even tho you falsely claimed to be one when you signed up to :ChristianityBoard.com.
Whereas some of you KNOW that moment in time, in your past when you understood you were lost and needed to be forgiven, and you went to Jesus, and you Trusted in Him for God's Forgiveness and recieved God's Salvation.. = You KNOW that Day and time in your past was your Eternal 2nd BIRTH-day. So, in your case, you have Divine Authority....You have 100% 24/7 = Total Access to Everything that God has, Everything that God is, and Everything that God can Do.
And never let the Devil or his owned convince you otherwise.
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Why do you quote the Bible when you said you don't trust the Bible? Why don't you answer simple questions?
Yes, I am simple. You still didn't answer my simple question.
Why do you quote the Bible when you said you don't trust the Bible?
It seems that you misunderstood me. We should clear that up. Since I quote the Bible, I obviously trust it. #359
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I do understand you. Don't you read YOUR posts STV?
Quoting a few of STV's Bible ATTACKS:
"This is Freakin' nuts. (no wonder I don't trust the Bible)"
"I'm not convinced that God wanted us to have a Bible."
"Fortunately for me, I don't believe in a forever burning Hell."
"I'm suggesting that the Flood story is a myth."
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