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Discussion in 'The Church Forum' started by CoreIssue, Dec 6, 2018.

  1. Taken

    Taken Well-Known Member

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    "Title" of the trinity?

    Catholics teach "Trinity" is a "TITLE" of Thee Lord God Almighty?

    Weird! Trinity is a description, not a TITLE!

    Of course the Scripture DOES NOT use the TITLE or TERM "Mother of God";
    BECAUSE;
    GOD Does NOT HAVE DESCENDANTS!

    No, you did not.
    You have listed verses, and NOT ONE VERSE proclaimed that God Has a mother.

    The fact is you CAN NOT MAKE me BELIEVE Catholic propaganda, that turns the TRUTH of God INTO A LIE.

    No Scripture you have revealed verifies your Claims.

    Your claim, that a HUMAN WOMAN, is the Mother of God, is ridiculous on its face.
    ( Your teaching IS the created IS the mother of the creator...) :eek:

    Your teaching can ONLY be verified by your pope's claims.....NOT Scripture.
     
  2. BreadOfLife

    BreadOfLife Well-Known Member

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    THANK YOU for once again exposing your abject ignorance.

    Yes, "Trinity" is a TITLE. It's not God's name. God's name is YHVH (loosely translated).
    "Almighty God", "Immanuel", "Everlasting Father", "Prince of Peace", "Blessed Trinity" - these are all TITLES of God - NOT His name.

    The TEACHING of the Triune Godhead is what we read about in Scripture - NOT the title.
    The SAME is true for Mary.

    The Bible teaches that:
    The Father is GOD (Eph. 4:6).
    The Son is GOD (John 1:1).
    The Holy Spirit is GOD (Acts 5:3-4).

    Mary is the Mother of the Son, who is God.
    NOBODY ever said that she is the Mother of the TRINITY, Einstein . . .
     
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    Trinity is a description, not a TITLE or NAME.

    Any THREE things that are a UNITED ONE thing is a TRINITY.

    Mankind is a BODY, SOUL, SPIRIT....trinity.
    God is Father, Son, Holy Spirit...Trinity.

    God is Eternal,
    without Beginning, without Ending.

    God is Eternal,
    without descendants.

    Anyone with an ounce of gray matter can plainly comprehend God has no mommy!

    No matter how many times you claim God has a Mother, (and more ridiculously claim Gods mother is a human HE CREATED <---lol)
    Your claims are not taught in Scripture,
    And WHY in multiple posts you could NOT quote a single scripture that verifies your false teaching.
     
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    farouk Well-Known Member

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    God in Three Persons is most definitely Biblical.
     
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  5. BreadOfLife

    BreadOfLife Well-Known Member

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    I absolutely did.
    Go back and read post #261 where I gave you almost TWO DOZEN verses that teach Mary is the Mother of Jesus who is GOD.

    Tell you what - YOU show me a verse that says "Trinity" and I'll show you one that says "Mother of God".
    Deal??
     
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    Jesus SAID: BEFORE He was revealed the CHIRST...--> (GOD IN CARNANT) Any who hears the word of God (Jesus ; WHO IS the word of God) and does the word of God is called Jesus' "mother" or "brethren".

    Men in Jesus' day, KNEW first Jesus AS a man, and knew Mary as His LEGAL mother according to MANS LAW, and Joseph as His LEGAL father, According to mans LAW.

    DID you miss the teaching of Joseph and Mary traveling to the City of David, also called Bethlehem in Judea, to be registered in a Roman census, that was a Law degreed by a man of Roman authority?

    Christ was publically revealed LATER.

    You attempt to take KNOWLEDGE revealed LATER and APPLY it to KNOWLEDGE Revealed "EARLIER". Scripture doesn't, your church teaching erroneously does, and you follow suit of your church's erroneous teaching.

    Mary was the mother of Jesus. Every woman who hears the word of God and does it IS the mother of Jesus.

    No one is the Mother of God.



    I never claimed TRINITY IS in Scripture, so no, I will not show you something I never claimed.


    You are the one who claimed "Mary IS the mother of God", and failed to provide any Scripture that God has A mother.

    EIther you believe God is Eternal without descendants or you believe God had a Mother; It is more than obvious you believe the later and not the former, but can not verify your belief with Scripture.
     
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    YOUR blunder is in thinking that Mary gave birth to a nature. This puts you I the SAME league as the heretic, Nestorius.

    Mary didn’t give birth to a “nature”ANY MORE that your mother did. Mary and your mother BOTH gave birth to PERSONS – not natures. Mary gave birth to the Son of God – who is GOD Himself (John 1:1).

    And no - NOT every woman who hears the word of God and does it is the "Mother" of Jesus. He was speaking metaphorically. He only had ONE Mother - so learn to properly divide Scripture.

    Mary gave BIRTH to Him - she didn't create Him. Jesus was God when He was conceived in Mary's womb, He was God when she carried Him for 9 months - and He was God when she gave birth to him. He never stopped being God.

    Like I said – I can’t make you believe the word of God.
    All I can do is present it to you . . .
     
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    Actually, it makes your response look like desperation and ignorance.
     
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    How so?

    Care to explain - or just blowing more hot wind??
     
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    I said no such thing.

    Your words are saying she did.

    The Word of God came forth OUT FROM GOD.

    The POWER of God Sent His Word to Mary's Womb.

    The Word of God came forth out of Mary's Womb, in the LIKENESS as a man.

    Directive of God:
    Call this LIKENESS of a man;
    That comes forth out of Mary's womb,
    JESUS, the Son of God


    Isa 45
    [23] I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.

    John 16
    [27] For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.

    Luke 1
    [35] And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee:

    Luke 1
    therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee

    Luke 1
    ...shall be called the Son of God.

    Matt 1
    21] And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS:

    No, YOU are in ERROR.


    The Son of God, IS BORN , OF God.
    The Son of God, was NOT born of the WILL of the flesh, nor the WILL of man.

    John 1
    [13] Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

    Virgin Mary gave birth to a HOLY THING.
    That HOLY THING;
    IS the Word of God;
    The Word of God Came forth out from God;
    Entered Mary's Virgin WOMB;
    THAT Holy Thing; Came forth out from Mary's Virgin WOMB;
    And APPEARED in the LIKENESS as a man.
    Call Him....Son of God
    Call Him...JESUS.

    Phil 2
    [8] And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

    Phil 2
    [7] But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

    Not surprising that you YET AGAIN, reject the TRUTH out of JESUS' MOUTH.

    Mark 3
    [33] And he answered them, saying, Who is my mother, or my brethren?
    [34] And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
    [35] For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.

    Like I said ~ You are preaching the word of the catholic church ~ NOT the word of God.

    Like I said ~ It is your word I reject.

    Like I said ~ It is Gods Word I accept.

    What you present is catholic interpretation, and false claims (saying what Scripture NEVER says) and personal false accusations. (Making up things I never said)

    What I REJECT is your catholic interpretation and YOUR false claims and YOUR personal false accusations.



     
  12. BreadOfLife

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    And YOU keep denying that Jesus IS and ALWAYS WAS the Son of God -
    - At conception in Mary's womb
    - During 9 months of gestation in he Womb
    - When she gave birth to Him


    He NEVER stopped being God.
    Mary gave birth to the God Man - Jesus Christ.
     
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    Adam was also son of God. Does that make him God?
     
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    Word is Logos in the Greek. There is only one Logos, the second person of the Trinity.

    He became Jesus Christ, nowhere does it say he was Jesus Christ pre-incarnate.

    Dual natures, fully God in the spirit and fully human in the flesh.

    You want to say co-mingled to be one person in totality.
     
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    You said: "The 70 (or 72) were preaching His word to His people which make up His Church.."
    I think you are wrong. They were not preaching to the Church.
    "...sent them two by two before His face into every city and place where He Himself was about to go."
    "I send you out as lambs among wolves."
    ".. The very dust of your city which clings to us we wipe off against you."
    " heal the sick there, and say to them, ‘The kingdom of God has come near to you."
    "But I say to you that it will be more tolerable in that Day for Sodom than for that city."

     
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    Anyone reading Scripture is fallible. I guess we disagree.
     
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    Making up LIES is an old and childish MO.

    Mary gave birth to the God Man -.[/QUOTE]

    LOL
     
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    TBH BoL, those scriptures you offered proclaim Jesus as being the Son of God, not God. It is your own inference that makes Jesus equal to God because He is His Son. Not saying you are wrong in your inference, but not even Jesus, not even once, claimed to be God. One with the Father, yes. His Son, yes. Did He accept worship? Yes. But He also clearly declared who the only one and true God is...His Father.
     
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    Yes sir. Anything you say sir.
     
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