Divisions

[CoreIssue]

Nope - she conceived, carried and gave birth to a PERSON - not a "nature" and not just a "body".
Your mother gave birth to a being who is BOTH body and soul.

Mary gave birth to Jesus, who is a PERSON.
He just happens to ALSO be GOD. Ergo, she gave birth to GOD.

Nobody is saying that she gave birth to the Trinity.
It's really NOT that difficult to understand . . .

Yes she gave birth to a person, not God. Trinity or one person of the Trinity.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Yes she gave birth to a person, not God. Trinity or one person of the Trinity.

Soooo, are you saying that Jesus, the Son is NOT God?
Is that what you're saying??

 

[CoreIssue]

Soooo, are you saying that Jesus, the Son is NOT God?
Is that what you're saying??

Jesus is the son of God, just as Adam was son of God. God created the human bodies of both. He created the spirit of Adam but not the spirit of Jesus Christ.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Jesus is the son of God, just as Adam was son of God. God created the human bodies of both. He created the spirit of Adam but not the spirit of Jesus Christ.

That's NOT what I asked you.
I asked you whether Jesus was God WHEN He was conceived??
Was He God WHEN He was in Mary's womb??
Was He God WHEN He was born??

SO - was He God ALL this time - or did He later "become" God??

 

[CoreIssue]

That's NOT what I asked you.
I asked you whether Jesus was God WHEN He was conceived??
Was He God WHEN He was in Mary's womb??
Was He God WHEN He was born??

SO - was He God ALL this time - or did He later "become" God??

You phrased it different.

Jesus Christ is the flesh created by God at the incarnation. That flesh is not nor ever has been God.

The second person of the Trinity entered that flesh at the incarnation. Always has been God.

The flesh of Jesus is 100% man with a definite beginning at the incarnation.

The spirit of Jesus is 100% God and is beginningless.

As the Bible says the flesh is a container for the spirit. It is not the spirit.

 

[BreadOfLife]

You phrased it different.
Jesus Christ is the flesh created by God at the incarnation. That flesh is not nor ever has been God.
The second person of the Trinity entered that flesh at the incarnation. Always has been God.

The flesh of Jesus is 100% man with a definite beginning at the incarnation.
The spirit of Jesus is 100% God and is beginningless.

As the Bible says the flesh is a container for the spirit. It is not the spirit.

So, by your 2 statements above in RED, you FINALLY admit that:
Jesus was GOD in Mary's womb.
Jesus was GOD when she gave birth to Him.

Mary gave birth to GOD.
You CAN'T have it ANY other way or you slip into heresy.