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No verse in a Bible says that we are supposed to Drink Living Water.
So, whomever taught you this, is not familar with a NT.

Look.

Jesus is THE Living Water......and Jesus is INSIDE every Born again Christian.......so, that's better then a "drink".
Revelation invites all who will, to drink living water. So if you did not understand that I was speaking metaphorically using 100% biblical metaphor, then you need a better teacher than the one you now have, which is clearly yourself.

IF you never reject Him, then you are worrying about nothing.

Hebrews 6
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

Believe what you will about created human beings and how the eternal life which only God has in Himself remains abiding in us if we do not remain abiding in Him.

I believe what Jesus said about it, and what Hebrews said about it, and what Jesus and the apostles said about saints falling away.
 
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If Salvation depends on what Jesus did, as you stated.... then why are you trying to prove that its what you do, that keeps you saved?
Revelation invites all who will, to drink living water. So if you did not understand that I was speaking metaphorically using 100% biblical metaphor, then you need a better teacher than the one you now have, which is clearly yourself.

You have never rejected Him. So you are worrying about nothing.

Hebrews 6
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

Believe what you will about created human beings and how the eternal life which only God has in Himself remains abiding in us if we do not remain abiding in Him.

I believe what Jesus said about it, and what Hebrews said about it, and what Jesus and the apostles said about saints falling away.
 

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So, go ahead and tell us how you are "always drinking the living water". @Zao is life .
Revelation invites all who will, to drink living water. So if you did not understand that I was speaking metaphorically using 100% biblical metaphor, then you need a better teacher than the one you now have, which is clearly yourself.

You have never rejected Him. So you are worrying about nothing.

Hebrews 6
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

Believe what you will about created human beings and how the eternal life which only God has in Himself remains abiding in us if we do not remain abiding in Him.

I believe what Jesus said about it, and what Hebrews said about it, and what Jesus and the apostles said about saints falling away.
 

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Revelation invites all who will, to drink living water.

I'll invite you to this..

Jesus is the living water, and as He told the woman at the well........"had you asked me, i would have given you Living Water".

And that is because Jesus is THE Living Water.
So, to Drink Him, is to "obey the Gospel".

How do you "obey the Gospel"........How do you DRINK IT?

A.) You BELIEVE IT.

You have never rejected Him. So you are worrying about nothing.

Hebrews 6
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

Your verses are given to Christ Rejecting Hebrews who have experienced an Apostles power, and been dealt with by the Holy Spirit, as that is how you "taste the heavenly Gift".
However, to become a Christian, you have to do more then taste it...... you have to BELIEVE IT.
So, Your verse is the mirror of Acts 28:28, and none of this is being given to Christians nor is it about Christians.
Its given to unsaved Jews... = Christ Rejecting HEBREWS.
 

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Revelation invites all who will, to drink living water.
Revelation invites all who will, to drink living water.

I'll invite you to this..

Jesus is the living water, and as He told the woman at the well........"had you asked me, i would have given you Living Water".

And that is because Jesus is THE Living Water.
So, to Drink Him, is to "obey the Gospel".

How do you "obey the Gospel"........How do you DRINK IT?

A.) You BELIEVE IT.

You have never rejected Him. So you are worrying about nothing.

Hebrews 6
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

Your verses are given to Christ Rejecting Hebrews who have experienced an Apostles power, and been dealt with by the Holy Spirit, as that is how you "taste the heavenly Gift".
However, to become a Christian, you have to do more then taste it...... you have to BELIEVE IT.
So, Your verse is the mirror of Acts 28:28, and none of this is being given to Christians nor is it about Christians.
Its given to unsaved Jews... = Christ Rejecting HEBREWS.
 

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So, go ahead and tell us how you are "always drinking the living water". @Zao is life .
Your hostility is now showing. Go ahead and prove to us that the above post is evidence of the fact that you are producing the fruit of the Spirit of Christ in your choice of words and the demand that you make above "because you are abiding in the Vine", as He said you would if you abide in Him.

Christ Jesus my Savior and Lord will Himself answer you. I do not need to.

Rather go read your Bible and start praying for wisdom and discernment. Because you are beginning to show evidence that you lack it.
 
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I'll invite you to this..

Jesus is the living water, and as He told the woman at the well........"had you asked me, i would have given you Living Water".

And that is because Jesus is THE Living Water.
So, to Drink Him, is to "obey the Gospel".

How do you "obey the Gospel"........How do you DRINK IT?

A.) You BELIEVE IT.



Your verses are given to Christ Rejecting Hebrews who have experienced an Apostles power, and been dealt with by the Holy Spirit, as that is how you "taste the heavenly Gift".
However, to become a Christian, you have to do more then taste it...... you have to BELIEVE IT.
So, Your verse is the mirror of Acts 28:28, and none of this is being given to Christians nor is it about Christians.
Its given to unsaved Jews... = Christ Rejecting HEBREWS.
Your anger and hostility is showing you up.

I'm ending the conversation with you now because from your end it's only hostile. I'll be casting pearls if I continue to reply to you.
 

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I believe what Jesus said about it, and what Hebrews said about it,

Your verses you posted from Hebrews are not talking to Christians, in the verses.
The apostle is trying to get JEWS to not reject their Messiah.
A CHRISTIAN has not rejected Messiah.


and what Jesus and the apostles said about saints falling away.

Well, when Jesus was here He was dealing with the Jews only.
And "falling away", has many definitions.

The one that isn't correct is, that you can "fall away" from Salvation, as that can't happen.
You can't stop being born again.
 

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I'll invite you to this..

Jesus is the living water, and as He told the woman at the well........"had you asked me, i would have given you Living Water".

And that is because Jesus is THE Living Water.
So, to Drink Him, is to "obey the Gospel".

How do you "obey the Gospel"........How do you DRINK IT?

A.) You BELIEVE IT.



Your verses are given to Christ Rejecting Hebrews who have experienced an Apostles power, and been dealt with by the Holy Spirit, as that is how you "taste the heavenly Gift".
However, to become a Christian, you have to do more then taste it...... you have to BELIEVE IT.
So, Your verse is the mirror of Acts 28:28, and none of this is being given to Christians nor is it about Christians.
Its given to unsaved Jews... = Christ Rejecting HEBREWS.
Those Hebrews and that letter is instruction and warning for YOU TOO - you ought to get yourself off your high horse because you are showing no humility, starting to imply that I do not believe in Jesus and believe Jesus (even while you argue that what He said is not what He meant),

etc etc.

You are not showing that the Holy Spirit is abiding in you. There is another spirit showing in your posts.

Take a break. Go pray and read scripture, then pray again. :wavinghand
 

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Your anger and hostility is showing you up.

Actually My responses reflect simple correction of your religious concepts.

You noticed that you changed our conversation, by posting false personal insinuation against me , that is unprovable.

Just stick to re-posting your strange religious concepts, instead.
I'm ending the conversation with you now because from your end it's only hostile. I'll be casting pearls if I continue to reply to you.

That another insult, and that is always the case when a bible noob, a "pretend" teacher, is faced with a real one.

See you there...
 

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Actually My responses reflect simple correction of your religious concepts.

You noticed that you changed our conversation, by posting false personal insinuation against me , that is unprovable.

Just stick to re-posting your strange religious concepts, instead.


That another insult, and that is always the case when a bible noob, a "pretend" teacher, is faced with a real one.

See you there...
Go pray friend. You need it. Even the above post shows you feigning and falsely accusing. Just hostility. No discussion. No "I disagree because this is what Hebrews says ..". All your posts are showing is anger, and a self-righteous sense of flesh-produced indignation.
 

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I'm ending the conversation with you now because from your end it's only hostile. I'll be casting pearls if I continue to reply to you.

Well first of all, you lied, as you posted in the last post that it was the last one.
Try to remember that Lying is not what God wants from you, on a Christian forum or in Life. @Zao is life
But here you are... and there you go.

Also, its true that my Home is IN Israel, but im not a Hebrews Chapter 6, 10, and Acts 28:28, Messiah Rejector.


You are not showing that the Holy Spirit is abiding in you.

And your posts have not shown that you've met Him yet..... @Zao is life

What i'll do for you, is be available.
See you on your posts..
 

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Salvation depends on what Jesus did. Whether or not you keep drinking of the water of life in Christ Jesus depends on what you do or don't do, not on what Jesus did or will do.
To keep drinking the water of life proves your salvation it doesn’t keep your salvation
 

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Revelation invites all who will, to drink living water. It's speaking metaphorically about abiding in Christ.

If you have never rejected Him, you have nothing to worry about:

Hebrews 6
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

Believe what Jesus said about created human beings and how the eternal life which only God has in Himself remains abiding in us, or rather, how we remain abiding in Him, and believe what the apostles said about saints falling away.

Don't point a judgmental finger about the above passage in Hebrews at "unbelieving Jews" or about anyone else - it's written for our instruction and as a warning to all of us. God is not interested in who we point our self-righteous fingers at in our displays of pride.
 
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Go pray friend.

You Pray for us both.

And im not your friend as, i dont know you.....and the only thing i know about you is that your theology is cultic and bizarre ...., and after what you've posted to me, dont now pretend to be my "friend"..., as that is just more lying, little one, @Zao is life

You need it. Even the above post shows you feigning and falsely accusing.

You can't prove im "feigning",, but you can lie when you post that........which seem to be your minstry.

Did you want to try another @Zao is life


Just hostility. No discussion.

I posted a lot of teaching to you, and discussion.
You didnt like it, because you were corrected, and have reacted badly.
I think you will continue to do so. /. @Zao is life
Maybe you need some quiet time to consider your behavior?
May i suggest a wooden chair and a candle, and a corner and a KJV.



No "I disagree because this is what Hebrews says ..". All your posts are showing is anger, and a self-righteous sense of flesh-produced indignation.

Of course you are welcome to believe that a Born again Christian can stop being born again.
You can beleive that Pigls fly, if it suits you.
You, like many, can twist some verses in Hebrews, Matthew, and James, to try to prove what isnt true, but that is what people like you do on forums, @Zao is life
 
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Revelation invites all who will, to drink living water. It's speaking metaphorically about abiding in Christ.

Every Christrian is "in Christ"....>"ONE with God".....so, that proves the drink is ETERNAL.

Abiding IN Christ, is to be IN Christ........as it says..........and to be IN Christ is to be born again.
 

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Don't point a judgmental finger about the above passage in Hebrews at "unbelieving Jews" or about anyone else - it's written for our instruction

THe book is called HEBREWS, and its HEBREWS in the Verse., including the Apostle who is warning them not to reject "Messiah".
THey did.
They committed the unpardonable sin, as this is what the verses are "instructing".

See, Christians are forever trying to find out..>>"what is the unpardonable sin"....., and its taughjt in Hebrews........as we see Hebrews doing it.........when they "willfully" reject their Messiah.
 

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You Pray, as you need the Practice.

And im not your friend as, i dont know you.....and the only thing i know about you is that your theology is cultic and bizarre ...., and after what you've posted to me, dont now pretend to be my "friend"..., as that is just more lying, little one, @Zao is life



You can't prove im "feigning",, but you can lie when you post that........which seem to be your minstry.

Did you want to try another @Zao is life




I posted a lot of teaching to you, and discussion.
You didnt like it, because you were corrected, and have reacted badly.
I think you will continue to do so. /. @Zao is life
Maybe you need some quiet time to consider your behavior?
May i suggest a wooden chair and a candle, and a corner and a KJV.





Of course you are welcome to believe that a Born again Christian can stop being born again.
You can beleive that Pigls fly, if it suits you.
You, like many, can twist some verses in Hebrews, Matthew, and James, to try to prove what isnt true, but that is what people like you do on forums, @Zao is life
Your words are not Godly, nor the way you say them.

Your words, your false accusations and implications, and the way you say things are a complete contradiction of your professed faith in Christ. You betray only your pride, your bigotry, mixed with anger and hostility - pointing fingers at others as though the author to the Hebrews is condemning those he's exhorting not to fall away, warning them of the consequences. All the while you name the precious name of Jesus, claiming to know the true gospel of salvation from sin and death through the sacrifice of Christ who died for the ones you hate with your words and wishes.

No blessing. Just words of cursing.

All I can do is shake my head.
 

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Your words are not Godly, nor the way you say them.
You told us that you would not be responding to me anymore.
Then you did, and that is your first lie.
Now you've done it again, and that is Lie #2.


Your words, your false accusations and implications,

Post where i have made a false accustion, and when you can't and dont, that is lie #3. @Zao is life.

and the way you say things are a complete contradiction of your professed faith in Christ.

THe way i correct religious pretenders is designed to reveal them so that the members here can see you as you are........vs your religious performance/

See it yet? @Zao is life

You betray only your pride, your bigotry, mixed with anger and hostility

I dont think that Pride can be "betrayed" as you posted.... but it can be exhibited....and you are the one for the job.

And, correcting your "stumbing through the NT" theology, is not me being a "Bigot".., its just me doing what is necessary to try to help you.

I have no anger or hostility towards you...... Im just a very direct person, who does not play with words or gloss coat them for effect.
Think of a Baseball pitcher who throws the ball right down the middle, every time......a fastball.
That is how i teach, and how i correct.

- pointing fingers at others as though the author to the Hebrews is condemning those he's exhorting not to fall away,

If you own a bible.......you'll note that the Hebrews 10 Apostle is angry.......and that is why He is warning them........not exhorting them.
He's warning them, in Chapter 6 and 10, that they are just like their fathers......= Christ Rejectors..... and now they are "doing despite" and "trampling underfoot" and "stompimg on the blood".....and he is warning them.......HOTLY>.........that this willful Christ rejection, is going to end up with them "having no more sacrifice for their sin"....... and that means....."you will die unpardoned and go to Hell" You JEWS.

So. get a bible and read now, Acts 28:28, and you'll see that Its Paul......and He's telling these Hebrews that same......and then he tires of them in anger, and tells them....."i'll take this message this Gospel to the Gentiles, and THEY WILL BELIEVE IT".

See that?.. These HEBREWS didnt BELIEVE......>yet.......they are not Chrisitans..........as i told you.

Now do some study... learn some bible and stop lying.
 

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Salvation depends on what Jesus did. Whether or not you keep drinking of the water of life in Christ Jesus depends on what you do or don't do, not on what Jesus did or will do.
Was it your intention when you created this thread for it to become a NOSAS vs. OSAS debate? I don't think it was, but I'll let you clarify that. If that was the intention, wouldn't it be better to create such a thread in the Soteriology forum instead of in the Eschatology forum?