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According to Eph 4:11-14, the Bible isn't meant to be learned by means of
discussion; it's meant to be learned by instruction, taught by someone
especially enabled by God for that purpose.

1Cor 12:29 . . Are all teachers?

The answer to that is a great big NO.

Some years ago I was invited to a home Bible study. Before considering his
invitation; I asked the man if his group was led by a competent Bible
teacher. He said: "No; we don't have a teacher. The group teaches itself. In
other words: we speak as the Spirit leads us to speak."

They say iron sharpeneth iron. But that doesn't work when both irons are
soft. That's why files are hardened and tempered. Well; that man's group
lacked a file, so to speak; so I declined because his so-called Bible study
would be little different than a Jane Austen book club discussing a chapter of
Pride And Prejudice, i.e. a bull session consisting of sophistry, conjecture,
theory, and personal opinions that never gets to the bottom of anything.
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1 Co 4:6 And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another.
 

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1Cor 12:29 . . Are all teachers?

No, not all are teachers. Only some are teachers and the rest of Christ's
believing followers are supposed to be students, i.e. disciples.

Eph 4:11-13 . . And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and
some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; for the perfecting of the
saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: till
we all come in the unity of the faith

According to that passage, the goal of God-given teaching is unity. Well,
when Christians come together with differing perspectives-- debating and
engaging in perpetual bull sessions and arguments that never get to the
bottom of anything --they're in danger of becoming divided and taking sides
as rivals and intolerant bigots instead of unified. Like it's said: Too many
cooks spoil the soup.

Jas 3:1 . . Not many of you should presume to be teachers, my brothers,
because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly.

"presume" can be roughly defined as i) to act, or proceed, without proper
authority and/or 2) to take as true, or as a fact, without actual proof.

For example: someone may claim "God called me to the ministry". That's all
well and good but really: how do they know God called them? What's their
proof?
 

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I try to back up everything I believe with scripture. n2thelight hasn't posted anything that is not backed by scripture.
Good reason give accolades to him.

Apparently you do not know Scripture. Have you consider all the citations regarding the U.S. in the Books of Daniel, Revelation, and Psalms which I cited? Obviously @n2thelight" isn't aware of them. -- So it's certainly understandable that BOTH of you are "n2thedark"?

Bobby Jo
 

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For example: someone may claim "God called me to the ministry". That's all
well and good but really: how do they know God called them? What's their
proof?

Interesting question, and there IS AN ANSWER:

Most commentators insist that the sequence of Dan. 2 presents the following sequence of world empires --

1. Gold, Babylonian
2. Silver, Medo/Persian
3. Bronze, Grecian'
4.a. Iron, Roman
4.b. Iron & Clay, Revived Roman​

However verse 45 depicts: Iron, Bronze, Clay, Silver, Gold = 4,3,5,2,1 = FIVE.
And where Dan. 2 says FIVE, Dan. 7 says FOUR, -- and we know that FIVE ≠FOUR, so the FOUR must represent the FIFTH "DIVIDED KINGDOM", consisting of the Lion/Eagle (U.K./U.S.); Bear (Russia); Leopard, actually a TIGER (China); and the Dreadful Beast (United Nations)!

Is this Proof enough, or would you like MORE?


Ya gotta LOVE Scripture! :)
Bobby Jo
 

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No accolades forthcoming for embellishing and sensationalizing God's word. I'll stick with sound doctrine. Nothing, even in his eisegetical mess leads to anything about America. You'd do best to steer clear of hyper dispensationlism and KJVO nonsense.

Hey P4T,

Actually, if the angel is correct in Dan. 12:4 & 9; then we have to apply these prophecies to the nations during the reestablishment of the Nation State of Israel, approximate to 1948! And Chapt. 11 actually starts with WWI, but we'd never know it from the lies of the commentators!

Bobby Jo
 

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Is this Proof enough, or would you like MORE?

I'm not the one you need to convince; it's for your own good. The Holy
Spirit, as per 1Cor 12:11, knows to whom He dispenses the gifts. Seeing as
how God has never had anything good to say about frauds, then you are
taking a very big risk promoting yourself as a Spirit-gifted teacher if you do
not know for you own self, beyond a shadow sensible doubt, that the Holy
Spirit has enabled you to be one.

"Not many of you should presume to be teachers, my brothers, because you
know that we who teach will be judged more strictly." (Jas 3:1)
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I'm not the one you need to convince; ...

"Not many of you should presume to be teachers, my brothers, because you
know that we who teach will be judged more strictly." (Jas 3:1)

Sure you are, because YOU don't know Scripture, and I'M called to teach those who don't know. Otherwise, YOU'D be teaching ME why Scripture and History are correct, instead of defending the LYING commentators. :)


But by all means, PLEASE believe the LIARS, and then repeat their LIES to others -- after being warned of their LIES --, so then YOU can be like THEM.
Bobby Jo


To All,

Either Dan. 2:45 is correct in the sequence Iron, Bronze, Clay, Silver, Gold = 4,3,5,2,1 = FIVE World Empires, where the FIFTH Empire is "Divided" between the Three Superpowers and the United Nations, -- or there's an alternate explanation for that 4,3,5,2,1 = FIVE sequence.

The lying commentators have no explanation; the JW's say FIVE, but then can't resolve the Dan. 7 FOUR beasts (i.e., FIVEFOUR) ; so apparently this Prophetic Scripture hasn't been "fulfilled".

Could it be because these Prophecies are "shut up and sealed until the time of the end" as the angel dictates (Dan. 12:4 & 9)? Or is it because Scripture HAS been fulfilled in the era approximate to 1948, but people are so ignorant they can't see what's directly in front of them?


Puzzling indeed,
Bobby Jo
 
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First , the" Spiritual man" means a man that belongs to the Spirit of Christ. That is where the temporal judgement comes from, not a carnal mind.

Second, that state of being can only come by NT Faith as it relates to the living God. This is communicated to us from the Greek texts by the use of the word pisteuo.

Pisteuo is defined as, " a personal surrender to Him and a life inspired by such surrender".

The Strong's gives the disclaimer that " pisteuo means NOT just to believe."

So if one that is being called out by the Father and has never heard of this act of Faith, had never fulfilled this act of Faith, or even go as far as to reject and attack this act of Faith, there is no way they could have received the Spirit of Christ yet.

So because the response to the call of the Father is incorrect and the Spirit of Christ has not been given, Christ, His word, and His promises are none of theirs. Rom. 8:9
You said a lot but skipped my primary question! I guess I've done that at times myself! Hmmm?