Does God Exist

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univac

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You may of read this before This is one of the best explanations of why God allows pain and suffering that I have seen. It's an explanation other people will understand. A man went to a barbershop to have his hair cut and his beard trimmed.As the barber began to work, they began to have a good conversation. They talked about many things and various subjects. When they eventually touched on the subject of God, the barber said: "I don't believe that God exists.""Why do you say that?" asked the customer. "Well, you just have to go out in the street to realize that God doesn'texist. Tell me, if God exists, would there be so many sick people? Would there be abandoned children? If God existed, there would be neither suffering nor pain. I can't imagine a loving a God who would allow all of these things."The customer thought for a moment, but didn't respond because he didn't want to start an argument. The barber finished his job and the customer left the shop. Just after he left the barbershop, he saw a man in the street with long, stringy, dirty hair and an untrimmed beard. He looked dirty and unkempt! The customer turned back and entered the barber shop again and he said to the barber: "You know what? Barbers do not exist." "How can you say that?" asked the surprised barber. "I am here, and I am a barber and I just worked on you!" "No!" the customer exclaimed. "Barbers don't exist because if they did, there would be no people with dirty long hair and untrimmed beards, like that man outside." "Ah, but barbers DO exist! What happens is, people do not come to me.""Exactly!" affirmed the customer. "That's the point! God, too, DOES exist! What happens, is, people don't go to Him and do not look for Him. That's why there's so much pain and suffering in the world.God Blessmeaning reconciliation creation
 

tim_from_pa

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This was a nice story, and true. But just to show how hard-headed some atheists can be, I'm going to play their advocate for a minute and show how they will still argue that one.They will say, but people do pray and come to God, but no answer. Then you will reply, but maybe not on God's terms. Then they will say that there are just as many Christians ill (and healed again) as non Christians. You will retort that they probably were not in His will, or that God has another plan, And even if you have another reply testifying of how God positively answered prayer in some cases, then to an atheist it is nothing more than mere coincidence. And on and on it goes.I have found that the reason they do not accept certain evidence and whatnot is merely because they are looking for clues of God's existence on their own terms instead of the bible's. I'll put it scientifically (and I am scientific and mathematical-minded in spite of their preconceived bias that all Christians like myself must live ignorantly like centuries past).Suppose we want to prove the existence of radio waves. They are hoping for them to somehow produce light for their eyes to see. But radio waves cannot be seen. So you tell them that the science books says so, and they reply that you are just avoiding the issue. So then you say that here is a radio. The sound from it comes from the modulation of radio waves. They then say that sound can be produced by many things, including ones voice which are not radio waves. I think that even the best of scientists would throw in the towel with such a thickhead after awhile, but this is similar to talking with an atheist about God.The furthest I've ever gotten with atheists is to have them admit that they are not sure---- we cannot prove God, but cannot disprove Him either since He could be a hyper-dimensional being that goes beyond the evidence that our senses can pick up on (like radio waves). To subject God to their standards of empirical evidence is like trying to "see" radio waves. Also, just as importantly, I point out that to say God "does not exist" because of suffering is just as dogmatic of a statement as Christians make about God, but in the negative.I use the doorbell analogy as to why God may not answer. No answer does not mean nobody is at home (the way some lunkhead burglars sometimes assume and get themselves into trouble). Of course no analogy is perfect and some atheist will then say, "You mean God can't hear some prayers or is too busy?"
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univac

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I have tried and tried to reason whith them on many issues, but to no sense.The latest had to say this;So when babies die in childbirth, it's because the baby "didn't come to God?" When a person is born with a horrible defect, it's because he "didn't come to God?" Plagues and earthquakes happen because we "don't come to God?"You can't attribute every evil to mankind's choices.Then this: The idea of God killing babies makes this religion much more interesting.If only the preachers focused on the grim and dark parts of the bible I would have joined the church a long time ago.Bring back the crusades, Inquisition and God murdering firstborn children.::pray:: please help them to understand dear lord Jesus Amen.
 

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IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRITHERE I AM AGAIN TO SHARE THE TRUTH OF GOD LOVE20 Year ago, I am one of those who did not believe that GOD is everyway watching very step we make in our daily life. I am born Catholic. But very funny...I don’t believe GOD is here, but I like to go to Church. Every time I attended Sunday mass, I will say to GOD, “GOD, if YOU are here, why are YOU not listen to me and answer me?”. At that time, I felt GOD did not respond to me at all…….Actually GOD answered me in different ways such as miracle things happen in front of me and I did not recognize it from GOD. And I say to myself.. “Very lucky…this is coincident.!!”When ever I see those who are not capable, babies die in childbirth, sick people’s, person is born with a horrible, defect Plagues and earthquakes…I say to myself “This is punishment from GOD”I am QAE assist., one day I rejected about 4 cubic meters ready mixed concrete because the slump too high.. The contractor representative was so angry and he warned me “beware!!! I will kill you!!”.From that day I really scared, every time I worried…his ‘words’ really bothered me, if possible I will put extra eyes at the back of my head….I felt something missing inside me….I keep asking my self…Why this happen to me?? Where is the justice?? I don’t do any mistake?? I rejected that concrete because I know it will cause a big defect in the future…may be the building will collapse due to no quality in the concrete….people will die and GOD definitely will punish me if I don’t reject it.I when to the church for consoling, I really felt upset when one of the church leader said “some time, you have to compromise with others or give and take.”…..I really felt sad. On my way the back home I shout “why I have to compromise or give and take…..GOD will definite punish me!!” That night I was alone at home…so I pray to THE LORD.“I CAN NOT GO ON WITH THIS FEELING….I HAVE DONE THE GOOD THING FOR EVERYBODY BUT WHY PEOPLE ANGRY WITH ME AND WARNED TO KILL ME?? WHY THIS THING HAPPEN TO ME LORD??LORD HELPS ME…. AND PROTECTS ME!! I was so sad and I really crying…..then I heard something whispering in my ear “Open the Bible.” I search for the my bible and I found it and I open, It was James chapter 1 and I start reading verse : 2-8 :-Consider yourselves fortunate, my brothers, when you meet trials of various kinds, for you know that the testing of your faith produces steadfastness. And let steadfastness have its full effect, which you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing. If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask God, who gives generously to all without reproach, and it will be given him. But let him ask in faith, with no doubting, for the one who doubts is like a wave of the sea that is driven and tossed by the wind. For that person must not suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord; he is a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways.And continue on verse 12-27 :-Blessed is the man who remains steadfast under trial, for when he has stood the test he will receive the crown of life, which God has promised to those who love him.Let no one say when he is tempted, "I am being tempted by God," for God cannot be tempted with evil, and he himself tempts no one. But each person is tempted when he is lured and enticed by his own desire. Then desire when it has conceived gives birth to sin, and sin when it is fully grown brings forth death. Do not be deceived, my beloved brothers. Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights with whom there is no variation or shadow due to change Of his own will he brought us forth by the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures. (Hearing and Doing the Word)Know this, my beloved brothers: let every person be quick to hear, How to speak, slow to anger; for the anger of man does not produce the righteousness of God. Therefore put away all filthiness and rampant wickedness and receive with meekness the implanted word, which is able to save your souls. But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man who looks intently at his natural face in a mirror. For he looks at himself and goes away and at once forgets what he was like. But the one who looks into the perfect law, the law of liberty, and perseveres, being no hearer who forgets but a doer who acts, he will be blessed in his doing. If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person’s religion is worthless. Religion that is pure and undefiled before God, the Father, is this: to visit orphans and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unstained from the world.Then only I come to know that GOD LOVE ME AND HE IS LISTENING TO ME. HE SAVE ME AND HEALED ME…..The next day…. The Contractor representative with smiling face invites me to inspect their works. And I was so happy….MAY GOD BLESSAMENFROM WATT