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I beg to differ!In the end, all mankind who died in Adam (that's everyone) will be made alive "in Christ":
1Cor 15:22 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
This is the true Gospel that should be taught to the world.
Joe
I beg to differ!
You have to qualify the word "ALL" before you can understand the verse.
We know that the first word "all" means "each and every," but the second word "all" cannot mean the same!
Imagine if the second word "all" means "each and every," then it would rightly be so that everyone will be made alive and no one will go to hell. But Scripture tells us that hell will heavily be populated.
To God Be The Glory
You are trying to qualify 'all' by a factor other than 'all' JunChosen. Is this wise? Is it wise to determine a meaning by one's own goal posts? Could one's own goal posts be misplaced?I beg to differ!
You have to qualify the word "ALL" before you can understand the verse.
We know that the first word "all" means "each and every," but the second word "all" cannot mean the same!
Imagine if the second word "all" means "each and every," then it would rightly be so that everyone will be made alive and no one will go to hell. But Scripture tells us that hell will heavily be populated.
To God Be The Glory
Indeed, people will be resurrected on the last day NOT BECAUSE Jesus was victorious over sin, but because the unsaved, who is a sinner, must give account for his sins!!!Hello JunChosen,
I believe that scripture could relate to the fact that all people good or bad will be resurrected because of his victory over sin for them.
You are surely mistaken. Your knowledge of Salvation depends on people choosing for God or not, (and this is the Gospel you follow???) yet Jesus said, "Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you...." John 15:16.Whether or not they choose to live for God or not, they will still be resurrected and given their reward based on their choices, there will be a resurrection of condemnation, there is a resurrection of life, and there is a resurrection that is better than the first which if of life, and is of the dead (exanastasis.) I could be wrong but it is just an observation.
Not at all (oops,) pardon the pun. "All" means "all," except the second part in 1 Corinthians 15:22 is not the same as the first part, that is "As in Adam all die. even so in Christ shall all be made alive."You are trying to qualify 'all' by a factor other than 'all' Jun/Chosen.
English is my second language but I understand very well what is writtenWhen Jesus said, 'Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth—those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation.' John 5:28-30
What is your take of the above?One's understanding of hell and of death require revisiting instead of turning language/ intent to mean that which it doesn't.
I conclude that 'all' means all. For example, Paul presents the case for this in Romans 5. Between verses 6-10 the idea is mentioned 3 times and between verses 15-19 it is clarified 5 times just so we don't mistake what he is saying.Not at all (oops,) pardon the pun. "All" means "all," except the second part in 1 Corinthians 15:22 is not the same as the first part, that is "As in Adam all die. even so in Christ shall all be made alive."
English is my second language but I understand very well what is written
1 Corinthians 15:22 as well as above for I have a very good Teacher specially in Spiritual things.
But note* in John 5 the word "all" does not really mean "everyone" either for they are broken in two: "those who have done good, to the resurrection of life;" and "those who have done evil to the resurrection of condemnation."
The same principle that shines in 1 Corinthians 15:22. DO YOU KNOW WHY THIS IS SO? BECAUSE THE BIBLE IS ONE COHESIVE WHOLE
What is your take of the above?
To God Be The Glory
Ill stand in my mistake. Thank you for your comments and insights Jun.Indeed, people will be resurrected on the last day NOT BECAUSE Jesus was victorious over sin, but because the unsaved, who is a sinner, must give account for his sins!!!
On the other hand, the saved do not come under condemnation because Christ paid for all of their sins (Romans 8:1, Matthew 1:32).
You are surely mistaken. Your knowledge of Salvation depends on people choosing for God or not, (and this is the Gospel you follow???) yet Jesus said, "Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you...." John 15:16.
God is the giver of life NEVER man!!!
Also read Romans 3:10 -11,
10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
To God Be The Glory
Answers like this are infuriating, Matthew. They make you appear like you are unwilling and incapable of engaging an intelligent conversation while at the same time flatter yourself you are kind and accomodating.Ill stand in my mistake. Thank you for your comments and insights Jun.
Good. There is no reason to battle, with someone who already has their own subjective beliefs. That is stupidity.Answers like this are infuriating, Matthew. They make you appear like you are unwilling and incapable of engaging an intelligent conversation while at the same time flatter yourself you are kind and accomodating.
Why think in terms of it being a battle? Why not think in terms of it being an exchange of ways of seeing?Good. There is no reason to battle, with someone who already has their own subjective beliefs. That is stupidity.
The flesh loves a good fight, but oh how bad does it feel when you walk away from a screen that can not even really talk to you face to face like a real man, or real woman can. Therefore I agree, with that, or I disagree with that, or I stand in my own mistake, is fine for this format, Cornelius.Why think in terms of it being a battle? Why not think in terms of it being an exchange of ways of seeing?
To believe that one's own views can't be improved on by input from others is ego outta control.
That attitude Matthew, ensures I don't take what you say seriously. Why? because your ears are closed to all but your own imagining.The flesh loves a good fight, but oh how bad does it feel when you walk away from a screen that can not even really talk to you face to face like a real man, or real woman can. Therefore I agree, with that, or I disagree with that, or I stand in my own mistake, is fine for this format, Cornelius.
Okay, no one should take anyone seriously on this website. Everyone should go and seek what the bible says about different subjects and not just blindly accept what man says, you can consider what man says, but do not blindly follow them without checking things out yourself. What you say is a good thing, thank you for sharing it.That attitude Matthew, ensures I don't take what you say seriously. Why? because your ears are closed to all but your own imagining.
Dear JunChosen,I beg to differ!
You have to qualify the word "ALL" before you can understand the verse.
We know that the first word "all" means "each and every," but the second word "all" cannot mean the same!
Imagine if the second word "all" means "each and every," then it would rightly be so that everyone will be made alive and no one will go to hell. But Scripture tells us that hell will heavily be populated.
To God Be The Glory