Does God : Know everything?

[Behold]

Could Jesus say NO to the Father..no he couldn’t..

Jesus could have said no, but He chose to do His Father's will.

That's what He said., as "not MY WILL , but YOURS i will do, Father".

You dont have to believe it.., as you get to choose what you want to believe.

 

[Behold]

When God made "man in our image", He had decided to give man "choice'., as that is to be "God-Like"... or "Made in OUR image"..."likeness"...>"Like God"... .

This is Free Will, so, by doing that, God then has to allow Man to choose.

Reader if you are married then you chose to be.
If you are divorced, then, your choice of a marriage partner, didnt work out.
God didnt "pre-destined divorce"......

The way to understand this "consequence of Free Will" As God has to deal with it.......is to have some Children.

You raise them so that they understand "right vs wrong", and then you watch them get older.... , as you can't make them do anything once they are of age.

So, God made us, and then Adam betrayed us, and we ended up with a SIN NATURE, and that informs choices so that what is chosen is what the Devil wants you to choose.

The Devil tempted you to sin, and you chose to go and enjoy it.

"All have sinned"...

That is "SIN".

So, the consequence of God NOT CREATING us to be mindless meat puppets, is to create us with Free Will and so, now that Adam "fell" and this is the fall of us all....... the world is filled with sinners and sinners are owned by the Devil and that is the reason they chose to use their free will to harm, kill, destroy.....ect, ect.

The way to escape that?

"ALL that call on the Name of Jesus, shall be saved"........

 

[Ritajanice]

When you think about it @CadyandZoe ..was Jesus not predestined to do the will of the Father of course he was, he could never had said NO.

Same for His Children, they don’t have the freewill to say NO..we were chosen and predestined to do the will of the Father....His will be done..it can’t be stopped.

Wether some think God forces he doesn’t, they just don’t understand chosen, predestined and in line with the will of the Father.

You see God knows everything....that’s why he chose them for his purpose and plan.

 

[Behold]

When you think about it @CadyandZoe ..was Jesus not predestined to do the will of the Father of course he was, he could never had said NO.

If you would take your garbage "calvin said its all predestined" theology off MY Thread, then i wont have to deal with you.

Just post your own Thread, that teaches that no one has free will, and then you can RANT on that one, day and night and day... @Ritajanice

Listen, Jesus said that He had His will, but He would Do His Father's will.

So, that in the NT.

You dont have to "think about it".... you just have to read it, and believe the Bible.

 

[Ritajanice]

Listen to this as well @CadyandZoe ....whose divine nature did Jesus have?

Whose divine nature have we been Born Again of, remember we have that new heart/ spirit within?

Born of the Spirit to do the will of the Father....mind blowing heart revelation.

This above just came into my thoughts, which God knows I will post, we serve a very clever God.

 

[Behold]

This above just came into my thoughts, which God knows I will post, we serve a very clever God.

Perhaps God will be clever enough to have you post something that is actually related to the Thread's Topic.

 

[Ritajanice]

He knew I would go straight to the word when this scripture came into my thoughts @CadyandZoe .

Is that not an Honour to share in his divine nature?

13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.



What I said above, backed up here in the written word.

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◄ 2 Peter 1:4 ►

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Audio Crossref Comment Greek Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version Through these he has given us his very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in the divine nature, having escaped the corruption in the world caused by evil desires. New Living Translation And because of his glory and excellence, he has given us great and precious promises. These are the promises that enable you to share his divine nature and escape the world’s corruption caused by human desires. English Standard Version by which he has granted to us his precious and very great promises, so that through them you may become partakers of the divine nature, having escaped from the corruption that is in the world because of sinful desire. Berean Standard Bible Through these He has given us His precious and magnificent promises, so that through them you may become partakers of the divine nature, now that you have escaped the corruption in the world caused by evil desires.

 

[Behold]

Is that not an Honour to share in his divine nature?

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Pretending that you are led of God's Spirit to post what isn't related to my Thread's topic, because this "feels good to your flesh"..

You're not in a good place, regarding that carnal behavior.... and that's your choice.

 

[CadyandZoe]

I see it this way, i don’t have the freewill to say NO to God, why, because I was chosen for his purpose and plan,I cannot say NO to God, ..I am obedient to the witness the Living Holy Spirit.

Could Jesus say NO to the Father..no he couldn’t..and neither can his children who are Born Again of imperishable seed...I wouldn’t even entertain freewill...

God knows that and He knows I am an obedient child.

Of course we could say NO out of ignorance..like a new babe, but, once he brings you in the Spirit to understand his will/ word...you wouldn’t dare say NO.

We belong to him, we don’t belong to ourselves..my opinion/ testimony and belief.

If I understand you correctly, then I agree. Jesus couldn't say no to the Father because of who Jesus was. And we can't say no to the Father because of who we are.

Did I understand you correctly?

 

[Behold]

And we can't say no to the Father because of who we are.

Have you ever confessed a sin?

If so, you didnt do what God told you to do, so you have to confess the fact that you DIDNT do what God told you to do..

That is saying "NO" To the Father, and that is why you are confessing it.

 

[CadyandZoe]

If it was God's will... why? Or did He just permit what was happening until it was destruction time?

If God uses his creation to tell stories, then we evaluate his work based on whether the story is good or not. Does the story depict an honest assessment of human nature, human motives, and human worth? Does it correctly and honestly depict righteousness, goodness, and truth?

I would say yes. The Story of Sodom and Gomorrah is an honest account of human nature as it was at that time, and it depicts God's response to blatant evil. In addition, the story depicts a discussion between God and Abraham, whereby we learn about God's sense of fairness and his willingness to be mollified if circumstances change.

Conclusion....Without Abraham, where would we be....?

Good question. Paul declares that Abraham is the father of our faith and I can see why he says so. Abraham had a few missteps and mistakes along the way, but God continued to overlook them and patiently worked with Abraham.

So sure seems like God might have had a plan, knowing there would never be peace between them.... or is He just watching?

It's hard to ignore the parallels to suggest that they were coincidental. Two sons of Abraham? Two sets of twelve tribes? Two great nations? One nation of Yahweh; one nation of Allah.

How will the story end? Will it be a good story? Does it ring true to our experience? Does it glorify God?

You keep thinking and writing, okay? :) Love it.

 

[Ritajanice]

If I understand you correctly, then I agree. Jesus couldn't say no to the Father because of who Jesus was. And we can't say no to the Father because of who we are.

Did I understand you correctly?

You did indeed.

Amen!!

 

[CadyandZoe]

Have you ever confessed a sin?

If so, you didnt do what God told you to do, so you have to confess the fact that you DIDNT do what God told you to do..

That is saying "NO" To the Father, and that is why you are confessing it.

I understand your point.

I also agree with RitaJanice's point, which focuses on our identity. Her perspective is rooted in the Bible because she acknowledges a fundamental aspect of our being in Christ that could be overlooked. We are condemned not so much for our actions but for our true nature. The Apostle Paul discusses our transformation in terms of becoming a new "Anthropos," meaning a new person. When someone is "born again," they become fundamentally different. We began as the "old man" but we become the "new man."

We receive new eyes to see, new ears to hear, a new heart, a new orientation to God and to Jesus Christ, and an increasing commitment and dedication to righteousness, goodness, and truth. What we do is a reflection of who we are.

 

[Ritajanice]

I also agree with RitaJanice's point, which focuses on our identity. Her perspective is rooted in the Bible because she acknowledges a fundamental aspect of our being in Christ that could be overlooked. We are condemned not so much for our actions but for our true nature. The Apostle Paul discusses our transformation in terms of becoming a new "Anthropos," meaning a new person. When someone is "born again," they become fundamentally different. We began as the "old man" but we become the "new man."

We receive new eyes to see, new ears to hear, a new heart, a new orientation to God and to Jesus Christ, and an increasing commitment and dedication to righteousness, goodness, and truth. What we do is a reflection of who we are.

Excellent...Amen!!

 

[Jesusfollower]

yes the Lord knows everything, is all and is everywhere;

Job 34:14-15: "If it were his intention and he withdrew his spirit and breath, all humanity would perish together and mankind would return to the dust."

Jeremiah 23:24: "Who can hide in secret places so that I cannot see them?” declares the LORD. “Do not I fill heaven and earth?” declares the LORD."

Peace

 

[Cassandra]

Something is missing. If God "zaps" you into being born again, you had no will in the matter. You are not a servant of the Lord, you are a robot. He never wanted forced worship.
It doesn't work like that.
And I find the exclusivity nauseating. Next time you folk who think that God doesn't want everyone to be saved (even though the Bible says differently), go take a walk and look at others. How do they appear to you? Not all of them are going get "zapped". Are you better than them? Do you not minister to others, or are they just not worth it because some of them aren't born again?
I think a ton of pride goes on in Calvinistic belief. I have seen it manifest in this Forum.
I have seen folk write some things here that I would consider sin, but nope, because they don't sin. I love the Lord, am born again, but I sin. I have need of a Savior and a High Priest. I guess some of you here don't

 

[Ritajanice]

To understand “ sin” we must understand sin in our spirit, revealed to us by Gods Living seed, His wonderful Holy Spirit,...I could never understand “ sin” without the Spirit bringing my spirit to understand the written word of God.
A Born Again doesn’t sin because they have been Born Of God’s seed....easily understood if one is in the Spirit.


God knows who can only understand what Born Again means in their “ own human understanding, just as his word says.


14The natural man does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God. For they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15The spiritual man judges all things, but he himself is not subject to anyone’s judgment. 16“For who has known the mind of the Lord, so as to instruct Him?”d But we have the mind of Christ






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◄ 1 Corinthians 2 ►

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Berean Standard Bible Par ▾ Paul’s Message by the Spirit’s Power 1When I came to you, brothers, I did not come with eloquence or wisdom as I proclaimed to you the testimony about God. 2For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified. 3I came to you in weakness and fear, and with much trembling. 4My message and my preaching were not with persuasive words of wisdom, but with a demonstration of the Spirit’s power, 5so that your faith would not rest on men’s wisdom, but on God’s power. Spiritual Wisdom (Ephesians 1:15–23) 6Among the mature, however, we speak a message of wisdom—but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. 7No, we speak of the mysterious and hidden wisdom of God,a which He destined for our glory before time began. 8None of the rulers of this age understood it. For if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. 9Rather, as it is written: “No eye has seen, no ear has heard, no heart has imagined, what God has prepared for those who love Him.”b 10But God has revealed it to us by the Spirit. The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. 11For who among men knows the thoughts of man except his own spirit within him? So too, no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. 12We have not received the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us. 13And this is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom, but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words.c 14The natural man does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God. For they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15The spiritual man judges all things, but he himself is not subject to anyone’s judgment. 16“For who has known the mind of the Lord, so as to instruct Him?”d But we have the mind of Christ