Does God Love the Sinner and Hates the Sin?

[GRACE ambassador]

Very Difficult (for some of us elderly) to read/digest, so "broken up into smaller
chewable morsels" and hopefully not "smashed to pieces"?

cc: @MatthewG:

"From what I understand sin is breaking the torah or the law, smashing it into pieces,
and everyone has fallen short of that standard. Gentiles were never given the Law
( Romans 2:12-29 ), but they were taught about the ways of the Jewish culture, and...

...how Jesus Christ changed everything which allows people to be set free of those laws
( Romans 5 - 8 ) that condemned by instead of living by those standards the standards
of living are of faith which is not condemning for those in Christ Jesus, trusting and rely-
ing on God.

Asking God to help you in your life by the spirit ( Luke 11:13 ) and having love towards
God and towards others. Love is paramount ( 1 Corinthians 13:1-11 ) in living by faith
( Hebrews 11:1-6 ) walking in the spirit ( Galatians 5:16-18 ), being sons or daughters
of God ( Romans 8:14 ), in which one loves God and loves others ( 1 John 3:16-20 ) by
the life giving spirit which is from the Father sent by Jesus ( John 15:26 ).

This spirit that is given is to given to help change our hearts ( Ezekiel 36:26;
Jeremiah 31:33, Hebrews 10:16 ), by allowing God to work in and through us
( Philippians 2:13 ) into new creations in Christ ( 2 Corinthians 5:17 ) that show
love to God and others ( Luke 10:25-37 ),...

...and they learn they are to die to the old man ( Romans 6:1-23 ), and to live to the new
ways that are all new spiritual ways through prayers ( Philippians 4:5-7 ), and asking God
to help you in your life by asking to help you spiritually in your heart ( Matthew 7:7-12),
and knocking, and seeking out him, by reading your bible.

Jesus Christ, Who was the SON of God said that the words that was spoken from within
are spirit and life ( John 6:63 ); and that the flesh profits nothing. (I believe this is Meaning
the spiritual ways are primary lived by even as we live in this flesh and enjoy our enjoyments
whatever they may be (I could be wrong))."...
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Appreciate your humility, and, thanks in advance for your respect for your elders

 

[Taken]

Love and Hate are Not Opposites.

* Love is DOING what is Right regardless of the consequences.

* Hate is a strong DISLIKE…not dislove.

* A Strong Dislike “ie. Hate”, is always about Behaviors of Men Not Loving God…
And
* Behaviors (called Precepts) between and among men who Enjoy, Scheming, underhanded, wrongful Plots that Harm, Hurt, Oppress, Devastate, even cause deaths of other men.

 

[strepho]

The distinction between habitual sinners and the sinner. Epistle John 3:7. Little children, let no man deceive you; he that does righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. 3:8. He that commits sin is of the devil; for the devil sins from the beginning. Christian people sin, were in the flesh. We repent sins to God and are forgiven. No one has license to sin. The habitual sinners don't care. The word reprobates should come to mind. 3:10. In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: who so ever does not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loves not his brother. The body of christ has to love one another. The reprobates hate Christians and God. These are habitual sinners. Heretics are reprobates, they turned their backs on Gods truth, and are compromised in denominations. They hide behind their own lies. We see the distinction between children of light and darkness. John 3:20. For everyone that does evil hates the light, neither comes to the light, lest his deeds be reproved. ITS self explanatory.

 

[MatthewG]

You hear it all the time, people saying “God Loves You” to sinners and the cliché “God loves the sinner and hates the sin” but is it supported by the Bible?

Yes, WE are commanded to “love our enemies” (Matt 5:44 & others), so WE should be loving towards sinners, but we read in Psalms 5:5 that God “hatest all workers of iniquity” (that’s the sinners, right?)

Romans 5:8 says that “while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.” Which implies he loves sinners, but regardless of how you believe salvation works, God knows who’s going to be saved. Jesus himself said “I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me.” (John 17:9) so it appears he loves those to be saved but not the unrepentant sinners.

John 3:16 says “For God so loved the world” but the “so” in not like you might see in “so much” magnifying the degree, but rather if you said “hold the brush so”, showing the way indicated. It is best translated in the Christian Standard Bible “For God loved the world in this way: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life”.

Romans 9:13 God says he loved Jacob (Saved?) but hated Esau (unsaved?).

So getting back to Psalms 5:5 God “hatest all workers of iniquity” – Are we lying to sinners when we say “God loves you?”

Depends on if Jesus took sin away or not.

If he did, then Yes God continues to send rain on the just and unjust calling out to the by the spirit.