Donbass regions want immediate vote to rejoin Russia Federation, US Himars kill civilians Donetsk

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A couple of months ago....Biden Gave the Ukraine Army some Rocket launchers, because they... get this now......: "promised not to use them against Moscow"., Biden told the PRESS.

(face palm)

I really thought that was the point of no return.
Biden has no brain, no common sense, no leadership ability.
He is a dead man walking, a pure hand puppet whose strings are pulled by the worst of the worst people.

So it is okay for Russia to buy weapons from China, North Korea and Iran, but not okay for Ukraine to get arms to defend itself against the butcher aka PUtin? that is hypocrisy at its height.
 

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Another big part of this, Moscow is too close to Ukraine. A nuclear missile launch from Ukraine is 5 minutes away from Moscow.
Compare that to a 30-minute missile flight from Russia to Washington DC. Regardless of that, if you were Russia, you would not want NATO, which is a proven hostile combatant to Russia right next to you. We also in USA rejected with violence the placement of nukes in Cuba, close to the US and said no to the point that we would go to war over that. Our own history shows our hypocrisy over the situation.

USA has also embraced doctrine of Nuclear Supremacy, no longer MAD (mutually assured destruction). We consider ourselves superior and can and will use nuclear weapons offensively as in a first strike again another nuclear armed power, such as Russia or China, and Russia knows that.

Well if you have evidence that NATO wants nukes in Ukraine- show it! Otherwise all you are doing is blathering on like the town fool.
 

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A couple of months ago....Biden Gave the Ukraine Army some Rocket launchers, because they... get this now......: "promised not to use them against Moscow"., Biden told the PRESS.

(face palm)

I really thought that was the point of no return.
Biden has no brain, no common sense, no leadership ability.
He is a dead man walking, a pure hand puppet whose strings are pulled by the worst of the worst people.

Well if I were POTUS, I would not have even placed that ban on the Ukraine. they are fighting a nation that out guns them over 15-1 and illegally and immorally un godly invaded their neighbor on false pretenses.
 

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What is he requiring in the Ukraine?
He wants a pro russian government that won't join Nato. He wants an end to the Donbas Slaughter. He wants to end the American-Nato plan to use the Ukraine as a next door neighbor air base and chemical weapons factory, and he wants to stop Nato-USA-Ukraine from trying to take the Crimea back.

I think the world can live with that, if the MEDIA would stop the FLAMING their PROPAGANDA.


Well this is a different list again Putin has vomited out of his lying mouth! what is this one? The fifth or sixth list of things he wants?

YOu just are so willing to let a bully just takes what he wants form whomever he wants and say- OK! Egads- sounds like Neville chamberlain, right before he went down in flames when he ceded to the demands of DAS Fuhrer! We should never cede to demands from a bully! He won't stop here! YOu know that!

He has publicly stated and wrote He desires to restore the old Russian Empire! There are about 15 other nations he wants to conquer and "accede" into russia before he dies.
 

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Putin is a good man ! the proof is in the fact that he lead Russia out of Communism and did it so well ! No USA President had or has the greatness of Putin that turned Russia around out of such a Communism hell hole.
USA leadership has only run the USA into the ground for over 30 years, but for Trump who was on the right track to lead the USA out of the derangement, that we can see of such that is a disaster for the majority of people in the USA are heading !

The USA is clearly being lead by Satanic people hell bent on it's destruction ! All sorts of immoral people are being idolised in fact !

The MSM is a total Whore, worse than that of Nazi Germany back in the days.

The MSM now a days is on par with Communist Media, truly cunning as Hell !

If Putin did not have to struggle with all the evil cunning malice of the West from when he came to power Russia would of clearly lead Russia to be a Super Power economically far more that it is. Russia clearly has been held back by the criminal West and all such games of malice, from when Putin took charge.
The Criminal intent on Putin is because the Satanist fear Putin being a Christian.
Putin dragged Communist Russia out of such Hell and gave the people a life !

Zelensky is not a Christian in fact ! but a so called Jew ! a Anti-Christ bastard and a typical trash Nazi supporting moron in fact that uses such clowns, such as that was typical before and in World War 2 in fact, as such a cunning Anti-Christ Mob created such Nazi dupes and Communist dupes as well in fact.

A true Christian knows the workings of such evil men, as such they the Anti-Christ bear no fruit ! such morons only cause Wars for their own ends in fact. for they are truly grubs !
Jesus came so you would bear fruit ! not to be a backsliding good for nothing deranged supporting lowlife degenerate bum who wast ones life on madness.
 

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Just in from independent news outlet ORYX.

The undertrained cannon fodder, AKA the 300,000 reservists being called up by Russia, are being given soviet era AK-47's, many of with rust on them.

Putin signed a law stating any Russian soldier who voluntarily surrender will get 15 years in prison! So Putin's ideas are like Hitler- no surrender.

Just like Hitler when he was losing the war, Putin is ow directing his failing Ukraine Invasion.

With close to 40% of his main battle tanks destroyed or in enemy hands, Videos have been seen showing old T-62 tanks being taken out of storage to go to the front lines. These have no modern protection against modern ATW's.

T-72, T-80 and T-90 tanks are getting to be in shorter and shorter supply due to the western sanctions against technology to Russia.

In a personal opinion note, As Russia already said they will accede the Donbas, Luhansk and Donetsk regions by 9/30 (without even the votes fully counted) I expect to see tactical nukes used by 10/10.

More and more mass graves are being exhumed in the recently recaptured regions of sovereign Ukraine territory temporarily held by the Russian invaders. I suspect Puti will now be a prisoner in his own country, China, N. Korea and Iran., cuz if he goes anywhere else for the most part, he will be arrested and tried for crimes against humanity.
 

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the referendum results may really prevent a nuclear war because it then, if it passes becomes all too real.

We Might Be Spared Nuclear War for Now But the Threat of Home Grown Tyranny Remains | SOTN: Alternative News, Analysis & Commentary (stateofthenation.co)

As I see it, Putin has been behaving as British Prime Minister Chamberlain is alleged to have behaved, thus encouraging more aggressive actions. Wanting peace at all costs brings war.

As it is no longer possible for the Kremlin to speak of “our Western partners” or to deny that the West is at war with Russia, the Kremlin, trying to avoid a war that it knows would be nuclear, has reached my conclusion of eight years ago that if the areas in today’s artificial borders of Ukraine that require Russian protection were reincorporated into Russia, the conflict would have to cease or become direct Western military aggression against Russia. As Biden says he has no stomach for a war with Russia and will not permit one, and as NATO is incapable of such war, the referendums that begin today in the liberated areas of Ukraine, which without question will succeed, promise to reduce the threat of Armageddon. Although in my opinion the leadership everywhere in the Western world is Satanic and insane, I do not think the Western governing elites are ready to commit suicide by attacking Russian territory. The West can say it doesn’t recognize the rights of people to self-determination, but if Russia says it is Russian territory, it is.

So that you understand, the referendums are Putin’s way of ending the conflict before it widens into nuclear war. Putin’s rescue of the world from nuclear war will not be acknowledged by the Western presstitutes, Washington’s puppet EU and UK governments, or by the puppet who serves as NATO secretary general.

But what they think does not matter. Putin, belatedly, is doing his best to save us all from nuclear war. Pray that he succeeds.
 
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the referendum results may really prevent a nuclear war because it then, if it passes becomes all too real.

We Might Be Spared Nuclear War for Now But the Threat of Home Grown Tyranny Remains | SOTN: Alternative News, Analysis & Commentary (stateofthenation.co)

As I see it, Putin has been behaving as British Prime Minister Chamberlain is alleged to have behaved, thus encouraging more aggressive actions. Wanting peace at all costs brings war.

As it is no longer possible for the Kremlin to speak of “our Western partners” or to deny that the West is at war with Russia, the Kremlin, trying to avoid a war that it knows would be nuclear, has reached my conclusion of eight years ago that if the areas in today’s artificial borders of Ukraine that require Russian protection were reincorporated into Russia, the conflict would have to cease or become direct Western military aggression against Russia. As Biden says he has no stomach for a war with Russia and will not permit one, and as NATO is incapable of such war, the referendums that begin today in the liberated areas of Ukraine, which without question will succeed, promise to reduce the threat of Armageddon. Although in my opinion the leadership everywhere in the Western world is Satanic and insane, I do not think the Western governing elites are ready to commit suicide by attacking Russian territory. The West can say it doesn’t recognize the rights of people to self-determination, but if Russia says it is Russian territory, it is.

So that you understand, the referendums are Putin’s way of ending the conflict before it widens into nuclear war. Putin’s rescue of the world from nuclear war will not be acknowledged by the Western presstitutes, Washington’s puppet EU and UK governments, or by the puppet who serves as NATO secretary general.

But what they think does not matter. Putin, belatedly, is doing his best to save us all from nuclear war. Pray that he succeeds.


1. that article is so heavily pro putin as to make on epuke!

2. He is a liar! Putin has publicly stated and written he wants to reconstitue the old Russian Empire, this is just step one of his conquests.

3. If Donbas did not start shelling Ukraine- there would have been no military action in the donbas. But as Putin supplied advanced arms and soldiers, He started the conflict in the donbas.

4. when the soviet Union dissolved, the new nations had their borders recognized by the UN and Russia. So Putins claims are fallacious.

5. The west got involved by sending arms after Putin invaded a sovereign nation, not before. and you still have yet to provide evidence that the US/NATO wants to build airbases or has built chemical weapons plants in the Ukraine.

6. The referendums are the sixth list Putin said was necessary to end the "special military operation". IOW you are happy to let Putin grab whatever land He wishes from other nations to appease that butchering bully!

7. Yes the West is dirty and filthy and very morally compromised, but we still have the chance of getting the truth, without resorting to Soviet rags like SOTN.

8. Teh referendums are the excuse Putin needs to go nuclear! Ukrainian militaryu are heavily in these parts of their sovereign nation, so when they keep fightin the illegal invasion, Putin will have acceded these lands illegally into teh Russian federation and use nukes because they are threatened. You can't be that naive to believe the SOTN can you ??????????
 

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1. that article is so heavily pro putin as to make on epuke!

2. He is a liar! Putin has publicly stated and written he wants to reconstitue the old Russian Empire, this is just step one of his conquests.

3. If Donbas did not start shelling Ukraine- there would have been no military action in the donbas. But as Putin supplied advanced arms and soldiers, He started the conflict in the donbas.

4. when the soviet Union dissolved, the new nations had their borders recognized by the UN and Russia. So Putins claims are fallacious.

5. The west got involved by sending arms after Putin invaded a sovereign nation, not before. and you still have yet to provide evidence that the US/NATO wants to build airbases or has built chemical weapons plants in the Ukraine.

6. The referendums are the sixth list Putin said was necessary to end the "special military operation". IOW you are happy to let Putin grab whatever land He wishes from other nations to appease that butchering bully!

7. Yes the West is dirty and filthy and very morally compromised, but we still have the chance of getting the truth, without resorting to Soviet rags like SOTN.

8. Teh referendums are the excuse Putin needs to go nuclear! Ukrainian militaryu are heavily in these parts of their sovereign nation, so when they keep fightin the illegal invasion, Putin will have acceded these lands illegally into teh Russian federation and use nukes because they are threatened. You can't be that naive to believe the SOTN can you ??????????
Ok, here then is the other side saying it increases the risk of nuclear war.
Russia Vows ‘Full Protection’ For Any Annexed Territory As Nuclear Threat Grows - The Falling Darkness


Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said that regions of Ukraine where referendums are being held will be under the Kremlin’s “full protection” if they are annexed by Russia, raising the prospect of the use of nuclear weapons.
 

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Ok, here then is the other side saying it increases the risk of nuclear war.
Russia Vows ‘Full Protection’ For Any Annexed Territory As Nuclear Threat Grows - The Falling Darkness


Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said that regions of Ukraine where referendums are being held will be under the Kremlin’s “full protection” if they are annexed by Russia, raising the prospect of the use of nuclear weapons.


Seeing it is Russia who has been teh only one talking about using nukes first, and that they laid out the terms by which they would use them Yes this is right.

Remember if russian illegally annexes those parts of Ukraine they wish to take- Ukraine wil still fight there, have weapons and troops, and Russia will call it a threat to teir security.

All this talk of peace is just like Hitler on Putins part. It is called Maskirovka.
 

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Signs that Poppa Putin is no savior.

1. Mass graves uncovered every where Ukraine retook its sovereign territory from the Russian occupiers.
2. Russia using a nuclear power plant as a weapons depot.
3. Russia has destroyed most of the damaged infrastructure damaged in teh very areas they wish to "rescue"
4. Tens of thousands have fled Russia.
5. Airlines are sold out to leave Russia.
6. Traffic is backed up for miles on the borders that take in Russians.
7. Grossly undertrained troops going to the front lines shortly.
8. Only forcing ethnic minorities in this mobilization.
9. Giving them Soviet era arms. T-62 tanks and AK-47's. Many weapons with lots of rust.
10 Thousands arrested for protesting the forced mobilization.
11. Law passes subjecting soldiers to 15 years in prison for willfully surrendering.
12. Russian economy hurting worse than the European economy.
13. Russia still blockading grain shipments from Ukraine to the rest of the world.

This is the murderous godless thug, some here impicitly support.

PS:

14. Russia first threatens nukes in their illegal war.
15. for all the problems of the West and NATO lket us also remember this one facts: In 73 years NATO has never invaded and taken over a country and built a wall to keep people in under pain of death!
 

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Last Day Of Voting Amid Growing Nuclear ThreatSouth Front
All 4 Oblast regions exceeded 50% turnout.
Expected to pass, they will all rejoin back into Russia.

I see they are warning of a nuclear war too.


Well of course they are! Russia's illegal referendum is just to illegally claim lands that are not theirs, and by saying they are part of Russia, with Ukrainians troops firmely entrenched in their and defending their nation in those four oblastsa that belong to them, Russia will claim a threat to their nationals security and launch tactical nukes.

Think man, have you ever heard of a referendum ending on a day and two days later those areas are absorbed? It usually takes months or years!

Russian overseers of the ballots.
People having to vote by gunpoint!

I hope that if Ukraine is unable to take back what is theirs, the rest of the world except for the whacks like Belarus, china, Iran and North Korea, keep these crippling sanctions up!

Nice to see Russia unable to buidl modern weapons cuz they can't get microchips.

Let them fight with T-62 tanks like they are forcing those poor minorities that are undertrained and being sent to die!
 

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They had voting observers from many nations monitoring the voting places. These people are not voting at the point of a gun. They wanted this referendum. If you just listen to western propaganda, you are not going to hear the truth.

Ukraine has been sending up any and all they can muster, and they have little to no training. From what I read, most of them are dying thrown into pointless battles. Zelenski wants media sensations saying they recaptured this or that little town at any cost, to keep the money and support flowing from the US politicians and US citizens.
 
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What I think will happen. October 1, Putin announces the results of the referendum.
All oblasts that voted to rejoin Russia will again be Russian territory, like Crimea is.
Russia will demand that UAF and NATO immediately leave those territories to their borders and cease war efforts against Russia.
If they do not, Russia declares full war on Ukraine. Which is why they also are mobilizing the army. They do not expect NATO to do any such thing, such as stand down and leave Ukraine. Russia will begin a full war on Ukraine, no more special military operation. So, expect Kiev and other major cities to be bombed with missiles. The war escalates. Russia will be attacked by NATO using UAF as proxies. China mobilizes troops to aid Russia.

It only goes nuclear if Russia is seriously invaded, either by UAF, or NATO armies, and Russia senses they will lose.
 
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Signs that Poppa Putin is no savior.

1. Mass graves uncovered every where Ukraine retook its sovereign territory from the Russian occupiers.
2. Russia using a nuclear power plant as a weapons depot.
3. Russia has destroyed most of the damaged infrastructure damaged in teh very areas they wish to "rescue"
4. Tens of thousands have fled Russia.
5. Airlines are sold out to leave Russia.
6. Traffic is backed up for miles on the borders that take in Russians.
7. Grossly undertrained troops going to the front lines shortly.
8. Only forcing ethnic minorities in this mobilization.
9. Giving them Soviet era arms. T-62 tanks and AK-47's. Many weapons with lots of rust.
10 Thousands arrested for protesting the forced mobilization.
11. Law passes subjecting soldiers to 15 years in prison for willfully surrendering.
12. Russian economy hurting worse than the European economy.
13. Russia still blockading grain shipments from Ukraine to the rest of the world.

This is the murderous godless thug, some here impicitly support.

PS:

14. Russia first threatens nukes in their illegal war.
15. for all the problems of the West and NATO lket us also remember this one facts: In 73 years NATO has never invaded and taken over a country and built a wall to keep people in under pain of death!
How about a list of what Zelenski has created ? all that and more in fact ! The blood is on his hands in fact, with his criminal mate Joe Biden and Co.
Russia has every right to reject Zelensky because Zelensky is a total moron who could not come to the table and work things out without blood shed and homes etc destroyed ! This moron Zelensky clearly has no regard for the Ukraine people ! not to mention do you know what happens to Ukraine men who do not want to fight Zelenskys War ? Anyone who does are shot !

Zelensky should be kicked out of the Ukraine Government as a traitor to Ukraine's people in fact and to hell with his Nazi and Zionist bastard mates who only have worked to abuse Ukraine in fact. who needs mongrels like that dominating over them like that ! wishing War at all cost regardless ! Why because they have an agenda ! and they are clearly not serving the people of Ukraine at all in fact.

Who could say that they are serving the best interest of Ukraine's people ! what's in it for the People ? It's truly an idiot War ! that's not worth a cracker to the Ukraine people.
Who does it serves ? Look who does it truly Serve !
If the War ended now ? and looking back ! what did it Serve ? The Ukraine people :rolleyes: ? No way !

Who could truly say, What a great worthy War ! the lives lost were totally worthy of it all and the homes destroyed etc was worthy it, not to mention the Worlds hostility to Russia is dumb, such has put the World back into darkness of the Cold War and has only grew the worst threat to the World ever in a time that we do not need such an idiot regard, the World economy after the BS of Coved hammering us huge blight that threatened more than the MSM and Governments have let on in fact.
Covid was staged on all of us for a stunt of forcing and dominating over us !
Ukraine War is just another stupid and cunning stunt, a test the waters, to see just how stupid and deluded the world truly is.

The Satanist want WW3 so they can have their new world order Communism ! First they have to create a great depression, then they will have there way so as to dominate over all.
Clearly everything has been set in place over say 20 years to lead up to this domination. for they rule how all must think !

Once freedom of speech is undermined in any way, you know such is a working of the Satanist trying to play games with you all.
 
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How about a list of what Zelenski has created ? all that and more in fact ! The blood is on his hands in fact, with his criminal mate Joe Biden and Co.
Russia has every right to reject Zelensky because Zelensky is a total moron who could not come to the table and work things out without blood shed and homes etc destroyed ! This moron Zelensky clearly has no regard for the Ukraine people ! not to mention do you know what happens to Ukraine men who do not want to fight Zelenskys War ? Anyone who does are shot !

Zelensky should be kicked out of the Ukraine Government as a traitor to Ukraine's people in fact and to hell with his Nazi and Zionist bastard mates who only have worked to abuse Ukraine in fact. who needs mongrels like that dominating over them like that ! wishing War at all cost regardless ! Why because they have an agenda ! and they are clearly not serving the people of Ukraine at all in fact.

Who could say that they are serving the best interest of Ukraine's people ! what's in it for the People ? It's truly an idiot War ! that's not worth a cracker to the Ukraine people.
Who does it serves ? Look who does it truly Serve !
If the War ended now ? and looking back ! what did it Serve ? The Ukraine people :rolleyes: ? No way !

Who could truly say, What a great worthy War ! the lives lost were totally worthy of it all and the homes destroyed etc was worthy it, not to mention the Worlds hostility to Russia is dumb, such has put the World back into darkness of the Cold War and has only grew the worst threat to the World ever in a time that we do not need such an idiot regard, the World economy after the BS of Coved hammering us huge blight that threatened more than the MSM and Governments have let on in fact.
Covid was staged on all of us for a stunt of forcing and dominating over us !
Ukraine War is just another stupid and cunning stunt, a test the waters, to see just how stupid and deluded the world truly is.

The Satanist want WW3 so they can have their new world order Communism ! First they have to create a great depression, then they will have there way so as to dominate over all.
Clearly everything has been set in place over say 20 years to lead up to this domination. for they rule how all must think !

Once freedom of speech is undermined in any way, you know such is a working of the Satanist trying to play games with you all.

I think there is false propaganda going on, there is no way Russia could be losing, and Zelensky has a hotline available for Russians who want to surrender? Seems a bit farfetched to me, a might country such as Russia losing to this little country who are getting help from others and have others suppling them with weapons and fighters, no way I believe that, and Russia being a nuclear power at that.

I believe that if countries keep helping the Ukraine and suppling them with weapons, they will have no choice but to unleash destruction upon the Ukraine, and masses of people will die because of the result with Zelensky to blame.

Problem is people believe in fake news and propaganda so much, you can tell them anything and they'll believe it, and probably even buy the bridge I have for sale that comes with a stop sign you can hold up and collect tolls.
 

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Kremlin announces referendum results, paves way to annex part of Ukraine (adn.com)

Pro-Moscow officials said all four occupied regions of Ukraine voted to join Russia. According to Russia-installed election officials, 93% of the ballots cast in the Zaporizhzhia region supported annexation, as did 87% in the Kherson region, 98% in the Luhansk region and 99% in Donetsk. Possibly explaining the lower favorable vote in Kherson is that Russian authorities there have faced a strong Ukrainian underground resistance movement whose members have killed Moscow-appointed officials and threatened those who considered voting.

The preordained outcome sets the stage for a dangerous new phase in Russia’s seven-month war, with the Kremlin threatening to throw more troops into the battle and potentially use nuclear weapons.

The referendums asking residents whether they wanted the four occupied southern and eastern Ukraine regions to be incorporated into Russia began Sept. 23, often with armed officials going door-to-door collecting votes.

Russian President Vladimir Putin is expected to address Russia’s parliament about the referendums on Friday, and Valentina Matviyenko, who chairs the body’s upper house, said lawmakers could consider annexation legislation on Oct. 4.

Meanwhile, Russia ramped up warnings that it could deploy nuclear weapons to defend its territory, including newly acquired land, and continued mobilizing more than a quarter-million additional troops to deploy to a front line of more than 620 miles.