Entire Sanctification = "In Christ"

[Behold]

Most of the time, when a believer, is believing that Sanctification is what you do....vs, being "in Christ" that is our eternal sanctification.. this misunderstanding is based on just one.....

= And this one, creates a lot of misunderstanding, across the board, regarding salvation, eternal security, and "faith".

Most Christians are not taught that Salvation is what Christ did, that is completed, 2000 yrs ago, and our Discipleship, is not that.

In other words, most believers believe that Salvation is what they do, after they believe in Jesus, and are saved.

Salvation, is not what we do.... its what we have received "by faith".. that Jesus finished on the Cross. 2000 yrs ago, and now having it... "the Gift of Salvation" we go and do, our discipleship.

Discipleship follows Salvation....like Water baptism follows Salvation.

We do those because we have Salvation, and not to try to keep it, or do it.

 

[Johann]

All the name calling has really turned me off from your posts.

I've watched you misunderstand what others have written to you, or of others, and you've turned on them, I don't care how you justify it to yourself, I can't stomach it any longer. Or someone gives a disagreement, and yes, you have, you've acted just like episkopos. And it makes me heartsick.

OK, now you can turn on me too, I'm expecting it, and I'll be praying for you. But you should listen when most of those around you are telling you the same thing.

Never refuse a breath mint.

Much love!

Praise our Lord Jesus!
Johann.

 

[marks]

James 3:1-2 KJV
1) My brethren, be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation.
2) For in many things we offend all. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body.

Sometimes we need to hold to a higher standard.

Much love!

 

[marks]

you'd be glad i was doing it.

I've thought most of your edits to this post to be positive, but in this case you've got me wrong. This isn't about personalities. It's not about moods or emotions. Its about conduct.

Clearly you are thinking about things, I pray the Lord reveal His desire to your spirit.

Much love!

 

[Behold]

I've thought most of your edits to this post to be positive, but in this case you've got me wrong. This isn't about personalities. It's not about moods or emotions. Its about conduct.

Clearly you are thinking about things, I pray the Lord reveal His desire to your spirit.

Much love!

@marks

If you were literally and truthfully being honest, you would be sending your judgment to so many others, who live on my Threads.

You've decided to play a game.

Ok.
np.

So. i'll keep your conduct in mind, and you remember this day., as tomorrow we'll both still be here.

It'll be a new light for you then.

and for your information, i think that if you will actually do some valid work on this forum, then Ritajanice will also give you a lot of likes.
And i know you need it, "brother'. as envy has a black heart, doesn't it @marks .

as you know...


much love,

-B

 

[marks]

If you were literally and truthfully being honest, you would be sending your judgment to so many others, who live on my Threads.

You've decided to play a game.

Ok.
np.

So. i'll keep your conduct in mind, and you remember this day., as tomorrow we'll both still be here.

It'll be a new light for you then.


much love,

-B

No games, just a desire.

It's in your hands. If you want to find a way to 'retaliate', well, that's a word to the wise. We should be at peace with each other.

Much love!

 

[Behold]

No games, just a desire.

It's in your hands. If you want to find a way to 'retaliate', well, that's a word to the wise. We should be at peace with each other.

Much love!

Marks,

you came and judged me, according to your opinion, using a Post where i was defending RitaJanice and myself.
I was responding to Ronald who had just posted that Ritajanice and i were "vomiting" words.

So, you judged me in your carnal post, using my response to that person, who had just insulted two members.

That was a mistake.



-B

 

[amigo de christo]

Praise our Lord Jesus!
Johann.

Johann dig in that bible my friend . Something wicked this way comes , but it comes under the banner
of words of unity , finding common ground , of a love that is so very concerned with the cares of humanity and the religions
YET DONT SEEM to CARE NOR HONOR THE VERY GOD or HIS CHRIST which created all .
Now i am gonna remind us of something .
IF even I , ME , came and said I LOVE GOD , I LOVE CHRIST , I LOVE THE BRETHREN
now lets get along and have us some unity , YET i overlooked sins , errors , worse even honored some sins and erros .
DID NOT hold to the WORDS of GOD , THEN MY LOVE AINT FOR GOD , and it sure AINT FROM GOD either .
This mess has got to be exposed for what it is .

 

[Johann]

You've decided to play a game.

Eternal life, sealed with the Holy Spirit-sanctification is not a "game" to be played Behold, nobody is playing games.
Jesus Christ is the Author and finisher of our faith-

Heb 12:1 Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,
Heb 12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

Johann.

 

[Behold]

Eternal life, sealed with the Holy Spirit-sanctification is not a "game" to be played Behold, nobody is playing games.

I was talking to @marks about his post.
No theology involved.

You post is not connected to that discussion.

Maybe you should figure that out before our most righteous brother sends you a breath mint,


Thx.

 

[Johann]

I was talking to Marks about his post.
No theology involved.

You post is not connected to that discussion.

Maybe you should figure that out.


Thx.

Just concerned about my brother @marks.
Shalom
Johann.

 

[Behold]

Just concerned about my brother @marks.
Shalom
Johann.

@marks will be fine, eventually.

See, Its all good.

What im happy about, is that i have the weekend off, and im getting a new (used) MacBook Today.
I'd been wanting to try out the M1 Processor, but needed a legit reason to throw down the SHEKELS....$$$$
The one im using is 2015, 15".... that i bought (used) in 2021. Recently the "N" key is not working, so im having to type
using a separated wireless keyboard and its just really slowing me down, for about 8 days, now....to a crawl.
- so frustrating....

The Mac is going to arrive today, in a few minutes.... and that means i'll be able to type normally, (fast) and post more Threads, and of course, more posts to such quality people like you and Brother Marks.

IN the last few months, i have not really posted on Brother Mark's posts and Threads,.... as i just sort of leave him to do his "Much Love"..thing, you know. ???
Yesterday i wrote on my Thread that his posts are good, as i like to compliment Brother Marks on my Threads.
So, i was happy to see his post to me today of course that was so purposely flattering.

Im going to pay more attention to Him now....now that he's been so thoughtful regarding me, here on the Forum.
And you as well.


See you there,

much love,

<B><

 

[amigo de christo]

Let our concern be for the souls of the peoples . for THE SOULS . THE SOULS of the people .
THUS if error is spotted in and within the church , WORRY NOT about their comforts and concerns
MAKE THE COCERN about their soul . SIN is deadly . IT worketh no good among the peoples but only death .
CORRECT IT when it is seen in anyone who does name the name of CHRIST .
And while its true the more we love the LESS we be loved , WELL AT LEAST WE LOVED and we loved not as the world
for our LOVE came and comes from GOD . WHO i might add , CORRECTS evil behavoir .

 

[Behold]

Let our concern be for the souls of the peoples . for THE SOULS . THE SOULS of the people .

Yes, amen.

We are "blood bought"= bought with a Price"... for the purpose of bringing more to God.

Its Job 1. Its way more important that trying to be some religious works facsimile of "Christ".

 

[Johann]

Let our concern be for the souls of the peoples . for THE SOULS . THE SOULS of the people .
THUS if error is spotted in and within the church , WORRY NOT about their comforts and concerns
MAKE THE COCERN about their soul . SIN is deadly . IT worketh no good among the peoples but only death .
CORRECT IT when it is seen in anyone who does name the name of CHRIST .
And while its true the more we love the LESS we be loved , WELL AT LEAST WE LOVED and we loved not as the world
for our LOVE came and comes from GOD . WHO i might add , CORRECTS evil behavoir .

As always-well said my brother, pray it is all good there.
Yours-
Johann.

 

[amigo de christo]

Just concerned about my brother @marks.
Shalom
Johann.

Its not a sin to correct sin within the church . AS i am sure you know .
ITs also not a sin to list what sins are in the church . PUAL DID .
And the last time i checked homosexuality was on that list .
SO my question now is , HOW COME its a sin to so many to say WITHIN THE CHURCH , take heed i said even within the CHURCH
that homosexaulity is A sin . AND how come its a sin to read aloud in the churches
What paul himself wrote . About who would not inherit the KINGDOM of GOD and thus NOT to be partakers with them .
Now how come that is seen as HATE today .
WELL i will tell us why its seen as hate . CAUSE many fell for a love that came of the world , its sensual
it dont rejoice in the truth , rather in inquity , its based on feelings , NOT THE WORDS of GOD
its based on how to find common ground with all , AND YET FORGETS our common ground IS FOUND not in the world
BUT IN JESUS CHRIST ALONE . IT wont honor THE SON . IT wont HONOR the FATHER
but by golly it will honor SOME SINS . ITS all backfiring now JOHANN . And no matter the cost to me ,
no matter how much i be called the monster of humanity , the hater of all , I AM GONNA EXPOSE it
for the sakes of the peoples , EVEN THOSE WHO DO HATE ME , my desire was only GOOD FOR THEM .
SO TRUTH will be said , CORRECTION WILL BE DONE . FOR JESUS KNEW HOW and KNOWS HOW to keep the church safe .
AND HE LEFT US a LOT OF TEACHINGS , that i highly suggest many learn anew .
THe apostles , BY the SPIRIT knew how to keep the church safe and thriving . I SUGGEST WE LEARN THEIR PATTERN for ALL THINGS .

 

[amigo de christo]

As always-well said my brother, pray it is all good there.
Yours-
Johann.

Hit the trenches . TO THE LORD be all GLORY . I have learned that in this world and in this life
Many will not love me , will even hate me .
And the more one loves , The more one will find themselves hated by even those they did love and did care for .
For the flesh loveth the flesh and does not like correction nor those who give correction .
But so be it . Onwards i go , the LORD is with the lambs and HE alone , HIS WORDS alone , THE TRUTH alone
must be spoken , lived and embraced . Now lift those hands , and let the LORD be praised .
The cost of building the tower is great , and it brings much loss in this life , BUT GREAT GAIN TO WIN CHRIST .
Great peace has He or she whose mind is stayed upon the LORD . To them HE giveth the abundant life .
And this life i speak of is not about the things of this world , but rather just learning and knowing CHRIST . LOVE THE LORD
with all your heart , with all your soul , embrace His every Word which is meat for our souls .

 

[Johann]

Its not a sin to correct sin within the church . AS i am sure you know .
ITs also not a sin to list what sins are in the church . PUAL DID .
And the last time i checked homosexuality was on that list .
SO my question now is , HOW COME its a sin to so many to say WITHIN THE CHURCH , take heed i said even within the CHURCH
that homosexaulity is A sin . AND how come its a sin to read aloud in the churches
What paul himself wrote . About who would not inherit the KINGDOM of GOD and thus NOT to be partakers with them .
Now how come that is seen as HATE today .
WELL i will tell us why its seen as hate . CAUSE many fell for a love that came of the world , its sensual
it dont rejoice in the truth , rather in inquity , its based on feelings , NOT THE WORDS of GOD
its based on how to find common ground with all , AND YET FORGETS our common ground IS FOUND not in the world
BUT IN JESUS CHRIST ALONE . IT wont honor THE SON . IT wont HONOR the FATHER
but by golly it will honor SOME SINS . ITS all backfiring now JOHANN . And no matter the cost to me ,
no matter how much i be called the monster of humanity , the hater of all , I AM GONNA EXPOSE it
for the sakes of the peoples , EVEN THOSE WHO DO HATE ME , my desire was only GOOD FOR THEM .
SO TRUTH will be said , CORRECTION WILL BE DONE . FOR JESUS KNEW HOW and KNOWS HOW to keep the church safe .
AND HE LEFT US a LOT OF TEACHINGS , that i highly suggest many learn anew .
THe apostles , BY the SPIRIT knew how to keep the church safe and thriving . I SUGGEST WE LEARN THEIR PATTERN for ALL THINGS .

Wise words my brother-

Rom 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

Rom 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

Rom 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

Rom 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

Rom 1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

Rom 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

Rom 1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

Rom 1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

Rom 1:31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

Rom 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

--and more to come.
Shalom to you and family @amigo de christo
Johann.

 

[Marvelloustime]

Hit the trenches . TO THE LORD be all GLORY . I have learned that in this world and in this life
Many will not love me , will even hate me .
And the more one loves , The more one will find themselves hated by even those they did love and did care for .
For the flesh loveth the flesh and does not like correction nor those who give correction .
But so be it . Onwards i go , the LORD is with the lambs and HE alone , HIS WORDS alone , THE TRUTH alone
must be spoken , lived and embraced . Now lift those hands , and let the LORD be praised .
The cost of building the tower is great , and it brings much loss in this life , BUT GREAT GAIN TO WIN CHRIST .
Great peace has He or she whose mind is stayed upon the LORD . To them HE giveth the abundant life .
And this life i speak of is not about the things of this world , but rather just learning and knowing CHRIST . LOVE THE LORD
with all your heart , with all your soul , embrace His every Word which is meat for our souls .

Brother is spotted. Let the Lord be praised. Onwards in the Lord.

 

[amigo de christo]

Wise words my brother-

Rom 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

Rom 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

Rom 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

Rom 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

Rom 1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

Rom 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

Rom 1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

Rom 1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

Rom 1:31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

Rom 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

--and more to come.
Shalom to you and family @amigo de christo
Johann.

Exactly . the holy spirit inspired words of the LORD works good to our souls . WE need these reminders . WE need ALL reminders .
Daily exhorting with the truth .
Exhort one another DAILY , lest any of you become hardened through the DECEITFULNESS of SIN
and a root of bitterness springs up , thereby many be DEFILED .
WE NEED GOD ALWAYS and AT ALL TIMES . We can do NOTHING without HIM , but FAIL
Thus we need HIS WORDS , HIS SPIRIT , the lovely truth , DAILY and always .
And i for one AINT TOO PROUD TO ADMIT IT . BRING ALL THE PURE and holy scrips you can my friend .
WE NEED THEM . WE NEED GOD , HIS CHRIST , HIS SPIRIT , SOUND DOCTRINE to stir one another up with daily .